Brian Ortega asked Dana White to be paid for UFC 226

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  1. fractal

    fractal 93andbeyond.com

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    This mentality is so juvenile. Just because there was someone ready to fight, doesn't mean the fight is available. The fight was supposed to be against Holloway, for the title. For which Ortega fulfilled all his obligations. Do you guys not understand the difference between a 3 month training camp for a specific opponent, versus, an opponent at 2 days notice? Or do you dummies just like parroting what Dana and his minions say?
     
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  2. fractal

    fractal 93andbeyond.com

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    Yeah but what if 2 days before your start date, they tell you will be working as a plumber instead as an accountant, which is what you went to college for? You'll get paid the same, but if you can't do the job, you don't get the bonus that was part of the contract. Is that fair treatment?
     
  3. RiotWyatt

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    He’s still fighting. He didn’t change professions at all. He stepped in to fight Frankie Edgar on a short notice so we know he’s willing to fight without prep time.
     
  4. legkicktko

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    I for one just haven’t heard a logical argument in the other direction.

    The UFC contract states you agree to fight on a particular night, at a particular weight, for particular pay. If your opponent is injured, a replacement may be found (if one isn’t found because it’s too close to the fight, then you get paid).

    Ortega essentially nulled the contract by turning down the replacement, hence no pay. If you’re arguing it shouldn’t be that way, then sure. Maybe it’s dickish. But the UFC more than fulfilled their obligations. Jobs get cancelled, it’s life. D5528E9E-E745-4DB9-8EBF-2D3410E5E022.png
     
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    He boosted sales by not fighting on the card?

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    Again, you wanna argue they should pay him just to be nice, that's one thing. Saying he provided a service that made them money is false. The promotion didn't make them anything because he didn't fight on the card. That was waste of time and money for them as well.
     
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    Cue eight million more dumb analogies that don't matter, because this is what's in their contract.
     
  8. Jim Gilmore

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    The UFC's obligation is to pay Ortega for fighting Holloway.
     
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    Exactly lmaooooo. When the UFC finds you a replacement and you turn it down, it shows you dont want to come do your job (fight). Hopefully Dana sticks to that word and doesn't pay Ortega a dime.

     
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    No doubt Ortega’s contract was to fight Max OR if Max can’t make the fight a fighter of UFC’s choice.

    Amazes me how these guys sign these contracts and then are upset when the ufc follows through with the contract they all agreed to.

    Then Ortega talks about being a stand up guy who earns his keep. Well bro, you didn’t fulfill your end of the deal. The ufc did exactly what the contract states and you walked off the job.

    Ortega, wtf do you expect is going to happen???? You fucked your employer, broke the contract, and left them in a shitty position which cost lots of ppv buys.

    Then Ortega after all this goes in and asks for money, lol.

    Of course they where pissed off and angry.
     
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    Samgyeopsal Red & Green MIX!

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    Except it wasn't the UFC's fault the fight fell through. Plus, they found replacements for Ortega to fight so he can stay on the card.
     
  12. MRT

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    fighters should at least be compensated with *something* in these cases. Ortega went through a full camp, did media obligations in the lead-up, etc...all for nothing, because his opponent didn't make it to fight night and he didn't bend over and take a short-notice replacement?

    this is *exactly* why there needs to be a fighters' org, and where contracts aren't brutally one-sided in favour of the UFC.

    the discretion the UFC has with fighter compensation is ridiculous.
     
  13. High Altitude

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    It’s not bending over, it’s doing what you contractly agreed to. Ortega backed out of what he said he was going to do.
     
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    Thats what the definition of show money is suppose to be. If a fighter signs a contract and makes weight on the date its a show.
     
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    I am on the fence.

    The guy was supposed to show up prepared to fight, and he did that, though he didn’t fight.

    Sucks for guys in his shoes when the other fighter pulls out that close to the fight.

    Which two fighters was he offered to fight against?
     
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    The contract is not for a particular person, that is the bout agreement which is a separate entity from the fighters contract.
     
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    This I agree with.

    If I recall, Frankie took it on short notice, and now Ortega is refusing to do the same for others.

    Bad style.
     
  18. tithas

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    He did get paid. UFC provided transportation, lodging and per diem for every day he was there. he is not entitled to any form of hourly compensation and only those things for non fight days.
     
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    They are all compensated for by transportation, lodging and per diem.
     
  20. MRT

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    he most certainly did not...

    he contractually agreed to fight Max Holloway for the UFC LW title, not "an opponent TBD, days before the event" for some bullshit interim title.
     

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