News Cain Velasquez arrested on a charge of attempted murder for shooting at his relatives molester

Should Cain's friends or family have tried to stop him from making a huge mistake?

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StonedLemur said:
See that's the part that gets me...why shoot in public with the possiblity hurting a little kid or something.
That's why I know he'll do time.

He should've beaten him to death, which we all know he can.
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And this is the part that gets me. Even though I can somehow sympathize with him, another part of me wants him to get a long sentence because I sincerely feel disturbed by the way he endangered society. Then again I like Cain and feel so bad for him and his family. Me feelings are all over the place sir :(
 
mudrubble said:
If they raped my child I would NOT have a level head. But I also wouldn't be driving wild and shooting because I'd be too concerned that my child loses their father that way. And I would put my child's needs for a father before my need for revenge. Just my perspective.

But I get it - I've lived my whole parenting life checking if anyone around my kids could possibly be a pedo, so it's been on my mind for all the years they were young. It's a horrible type of vampiric sickness. Pedos hurt kids, and a % of those hurt kids replay that hurt in their heads until they become pedos. It's really akin to vampirism.
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it comes off very sheltered to say you have that much mental control and ability to think in the moment especially one so shocking and traumatizing and rage inducing. cains gut instinct is to protect his kids and family at all costs because they are everything in life. . i believe cain would normally think with more logic 100% but he snapped. if we look at everything presented and his history he mentally snapped. i dont think he planned this out in a normal state of mind. i think he was still even under this psychosis after his arrest i doubt this guy slept or ate normal for weeks on end. was experimenting with psychedelics recently too and has head trauma from fighting .. its just not something people would have seen coming . The mind is fragile. for all people. even those regarded as having some of the strongest minds on earth- former ufc hw champion - your mental health can fall apart in an instant . i dont explain this to excuse violent behavior or cains actions but i know you for example probably see your self as a logical guy who can make good decisions and think before he acts in all instances but imagine if one day your mind just starts to miss fire either from disease or trauma and instead of every one looking at you as a whole and your history they turn on you , act like you are evil or crazy almost as if you have always have been that way and everythiing else is forgotten. i dont think thats fair to do to cain or anyone given the information we have about mental health these days. if it comes out cain is some crazy conspiracy theory nut and it was 100% thought out clear minded and selfish i agree with you but my point is he deserves the benefit of the doubt as most people do.
 
krelianx said:
How do fuck are people trying to justify Cain in this? He's a complete moron, and the fact that child molestation is abhorrent is no excuse.

And anyone who says "WELL IF SOMEONE DID THAT TO MY KIDS..." should shut the fuck up and grow up. Nobody cares about your stupid kids, or your pathetic attempt to tell the world you'd do crazy things for them, and having kids doesn't give you the right to ignore the law and go about shooting people, getting innocent people injured. Cain hit the wrong dude.
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krelianx said:
How do fuck are people trying to justify Cain in this? He's a complete moron, and the fact that child molestation is abhorrent is no excuse.

And anyone who says "WELL IF SOMEONE DID THAT TO MY KIDS..." should shut the fuck up and grow up. Nobody cares about your stupid kids, or your pathetic attempt to tell the world you'd do crazy things for them, and having kids doesn't give you the right to ignore the law and go about shooting people, getting innocent people injured. Cain hit the wrong dude.
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This.
 
mudrubble said:
From what I understand (from Big Herc and Wes Watson and them), in Cali, they def are not in GP
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mudrubble said:
From what I understand (from Big Herc and Wes Watson and them), in Cali, they def are not in GP
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No they're not sir which is a fuckin travesty.
Plus they get 4-6 year sentences and get out in 2.
Talk about a fuckin miscarriage of justice.
 
chill doggie said:
I’ve heard they put molesters in “protective custody” so there’s a good chance he’s just gonna be hanging out with other pedos and guys that are scared of general population and won’t do anything to him so they can also be in PC.

Prison culture varies too depending on location and bad consequences are not guaranteed for these child abusers.
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Where he is located he is most likely going to go to San Quentin if he is convicted. I'm not so sure there will be any protection. Which, you love to see.

https://www.marinij.com/2018/07/01/california-dismantling-safety-units-for-prisoners-in-peril/
 
feel terrible for Cain. with that said, he should and will do time for the crime

many other ways to handle this, he chose the most incriminating and reckless option. Aka the War Machine route
 
mudrubble said:
That's what blows my mind. All that training.... and you go wildly shooting in public?? As Nas said: "Mistakes happen, so take heed, never bust up - In a crowd catch him solo, make the right man bleed"

Cain should have just followed them home and put them through some horror story shit if he was feeling that way. But IF you want your kid to have you in his life, leave them all breathing, even barely. You'll get off with a slap on the wrist and be a worldwide hero.

This was an opportunity where he could have had it all - his revenge, to be with his family, and the entire world, more or less, pulling for him. Instead he just made the wrong decision and he stuck with it till the conclusion. Shitty situation.
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See we know Cain as a good dude so maybe he just couldn't handle all the emotions and snapped.

Im with you about getting the right guy though.
 
Final Say said:
Trying to ask about his thought process or make sense of his logic is already asking too much.

His choices dont make sense, including the accused man surviving. Cain had opportunities to kill this man beyond doubt. He wasn’t thinking logically whatsoever
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Yup, went straight loco which I can understand given the circumstances sir.
 
Classic White Belt said:
And this is the part that gets me. Even though I can somehow sympathize with him, another part of me wants him to get a long sentence because I sincerely feel disturbed by the way he endangered society. Then again I like Cain and feel so bad for him and his family. Me feelings are all over the place sir :(
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It's a crazy situation, and in these situations there is often no logic.
 
StonedLemur said:
No they're not sir which is a fuckin travesty.
Plus they get 4-6 year sentences and get out in 2.
Talk about a fuckin miscarriage of justice.
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That's only because the world is run by pedos. No sane society would operate like this on an offense like this. So fucked up.
 
For those claiming that the man who was shot is “innocent”, do you actually believe that he and/or his wife didn’t know what was going on in their own home and business? This crime apparently occurred hundreds of times. Stop referring to him as innocent lol.

Cain’s a complete idiot for doing what he did, but still. It’s not plausible that they didn’t suspect anything. At the very least, it’s negligence.
 
MMAcolyte said:
I believe you were referring to the man Cain shot as innocent. I explained why he is not innocent in the crimes committed by his step-son. It's called negligence. Criminal negligence.
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The fact that he may be a suspect in a crime doesn't justify anyone shooting him. We don't get to make that determination. The Punisher may be judge, jury, and executionaer- but as citizens we can't be.
 
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