Do you think the Covid pandemic was exaggerated?

[dije1]

Vice President Kamala Harris said if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it.

DNC darling the Saint Andrew Cuomo, former governor (and allleged sex criminal) of NY state advised his constituents on more than one occasion against administration of covid vaccines if it was recommended by the Trump administration. (You can guess how quickly he was Team Pfizer after Trump was no longer in the oval office)

The current POTUS Joe Biden also advised against the vaccines if Trump recommended them.

Trump was criticized for politicizing various issues (and rightly so) by Democrats and their propaganda media networks for 4 years. Of course 2 years later we can clearly see they proved to be horrible, nasty, disgusting hypocrites (just like they said about Trump for 4 years)

And mass murderer.

 

[Scerpi]

Yes, it was exaggerated.

Fauci couldn't be bothered to tell us the truth and let us live life as we feel fit. Neither could the CDC. Same with politicians.

When people with access to the latest stats and info tell you it's very deadly and you need to quarantine, maintain safe distance, cover your face with the equivalent of cotton undies, and avoid large social gatherings are caught doing the EXACT OPPOSITE what do you think is the logical takeaway?

Those that tell us we need to be risk averse and lose freedoms due to a deadly pandemic while exhibiting the exact opposite behavior are most likely lying to you. Otherwise, they're stupid which should make everyone question why we should listen to them in the first place.

Fuck yes, it was exaggerated.

- Wrecked the economy
- Lead to hyper-inflation with massive handouts
- Huge Negative impact to kid's mental health and development
- There's dipshits still driving around in their cars with their masks... people's brains were broken
- Suppressed early treatments to push Big Pharma vaccines that....

Don't actually do what we were promised they would do


And look who popped up like a fucking groundhog on Feb 2nd...

 

[Greco_Wiz]

No. Actual deaths are closer to 20 million worldwide. If not for the vaccines, they’d be considerably higher.

 

[dije1]

Fuck yes, it was exaggerated.

- Wrecked the economy
- Lead to hyper-inflation with massive handouts
- Huge Negative impact to kid's mental health and development
- There's dipshits still driving around in their cars with their masks... people's brains were broken
- Suppressed early treatments to push Big Pharma vaccines that....

Don't actually do what we were promised they would do


And look who popped up like a fucking groundhog on Feb 2nd...

"We might get another variant". Of course there will be more variants which will most likely be weaker than the previous variants. Fauci knows this. He is in his final years and he's still choosing to be an evil little worm.

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Yes and ,as soon as the Russia/ Ukraine war settles, they'll be a new more dangerous variant.....

There's already another spike in cases in New York. We'll be back to wearing masks again. This is the new way of life.

 

[snugglecakes]

the scamdemic

 

[nostradumbass]

Of course it was.

Obviously a virus isn't good, and it isn't nothing, but to dominate the news for years and justify trashing the economy, abusing kids, locking people in their houses, kicking the world #1 out of tennis tournaments, declaring emergency powers to freeze people bank accounts, banning people from traveling and setting up concentration camps is so goddamn far beyond a reasonable reaction.

 

[TheDisturbedOne]

Anyone see this:

 

[blaseblah]

Not exaggerated but overreacted to in some areas and not enough done in other areas. Lockdowns never should have happened. Masking policy should have been more consistent and followed logic. Free testing and free N95 masks should have been provided from the beginning. Vaccine policy should have been heavily focused on the elderly and the obese. There was far too much focus on the children.

 

[maximus__]

Not exaggerated but overreacted to in some areas and not enough done in other areas. Lockdowns never should have happened. Masking policy should have been more consistent and followed logic. Free testing and free N95 masks should have been provided from the beginning. Vaccine policy should have been heavily focused on the elderly and the obese. There was far too much focus on the children.

Lockdowns were dumb.

This and a concerted effort to get RAT out to everyone very early. Now they are here and easily available there is no need to worry IF people do the right thing.

Go positive, stay home. Let your work and family know to test themselves. Get a serious case and go to hospital. Get vaccinated if you want, get cheaper covid treatment if you do as a positive for being vaccinated.

All the negative mask stuff is based on the wrong masks and them being worn incorrectly.
They do work, they don't if you put a dirty cloth mask that never gets washed on your face. They should be used when you go positive and need to protect vulnerable people or for them to be protected.

 

[SummerStriker]

I know a lot of EMTs, critical care nurses, and travel nurses. They were all making bank, over worked, and really worried about what was happening. Whole floors of our main hospital were converted to covid care. While I don't personally know anyone who died from it, all of my medical friends know multiple people, including young and healthy people who died. I don't think it was overblown. I think that our culture despises weakness and old age, so people dying from it weren't concerning.

What's the first thing you think when you hear a young and healthy person died from it? Their fault. Low vitamin D. Probably had an underlying skinny fat condition. Disgust. Wouldn't happen to you. The kind of person who would die, should die.

 

[Mga223]

I mean is even 10% of the population dead from it?

The media made out like anyone that got it would die.

 

[chardog]

The idea that covid deaths were just other naturally occurring deaths is completely wrong and easily disproven by looking at excess deaths. Not only did more people die than usual in the past few years, but significantly more than usual, in excess of the official covid counts. So while the covid count is around 6 million, the actual number is much higher - could be closer to 12 or even 24 million.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8

it's not so simple to blame it on purely the pandemic

mobility, depression, health degradation, all a result from the lockdowns.

anyone old that loses their ability to walk, will die very quickly. This is nothing new and naturally occurring. you lock up old people WITHOUT a pandemic and the deaths WILL rise.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ctures-in-nursing-homes-idUSKBN0EZ29C20140624

there was excess deaths, and a lot was caused by humans

 

[chardog]

I mean is even 10% of the population dead from it?

The media made out like anyone that got it would die.

not even close. we have 60million yearly deaths on average, and rona hardly making a dent. it doesnt even stunt population growth. Sure, it killed more people than normal, but you can say that about many years because it fluctuates from year to year. to counter that, you would need to do a study on lockdowns related to death, because there are many factors involved.

 

[chardog]

You don't really have to guess this. The thing you're looking for is "excess deaths" meaning there are projected models for how many people typically die under normal circumstances within X amount of time. You can further constrain it by demographics.

So wars produce "excess deaths" not only due to combat deaths, but due to a multitude of other factors like stress, or aceess to food, clean water, and healthcare. A country at war might have a million excess deaths despite only having 100,000 combat fatalities.

In the case of Covid The Economist published a study in May of 2021 that projected excess deaths of 7-13 million globally. So that's everyone that would have otherwise died, plus an additional 7-13 million in the first year of the pandemic.

The response may have been handled poorly, unevenly and made very political, there were some who exaggerated the risks, and FAR more who downplayed the risk, but the threat was 100% real.

this is like global warming propaganda

you can scare a lot of folks with a flawed chart. The virus is gonna do what it does, especially a flu variant.. and calling it the flu would have got you banned from big tech sites, what a joke.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

It was BUT understandable at the very beginning….an unknown virus killing a lot of people and no vaccines, no proper treatment, etc. Now, it is a different ballgame… with all the data showing mortality rate, who it affects mostly, vaccines , treatments and still having loons in charge of cities/countries demanding masks, vaccine cards, tests and more shitty mandates… completely ridiculous.

Covid was not a joke, people I cared about died from that shit. But this is a lesser version of prior strains and we have more tools to battle it out. Yes, it’s time to move on now.

 

[Loiosh]

I know a lot of EMTs, critical care nurses, and travel nurses. They were all making bank, over worked, and really worried about what was happening. Whole floors of our main hospital were converted to covid care. While I don't personally know anyone who died from it, all of my medical friends know multiple people, including young and healthy people who died. I don't think it was overblown. I think that our culture despises weakness and old age, so people dying from it weren't concerning.

What's the first thing you think when you hear a young and healthy person died from it? Their fault. Low vitamin D. Probably had an underlying skinny fat condition. Disgust. Wouldn't happen to you. The kind of person who would die, should die.

It was bad enough that my father came out of retirement in his eighties to assist in the ICU because they were so desperate for staff.

The people saying this was exaggerated are probably the same people who think climate change is a hoax.

 

[esdoornblad]

It was exaggerated, and the brutally idiotic reaction (i.e, measures) was the modern equivalent of animal sacrifice to stop a drought.

 

[esdoornblad]

In the US alone in 2020, a half million more people died than normally die. That’s a lot of fucking people. So anyone trying to claim it was exaggerated but a doing so simply because the severity of the pandemic isn’t compatible with their political agenda.

Excess deaths throughout Scandinavia, where stringency index was low, was at normal levels. Nobody would have blinked at their 2 or 3-year-average all-cause mortality had it not been for endless propaganda and panic porn. So, you will want to look for a non-C19 explanation for very high excess death in the US.

Stress (driven by unemployment, for example) is a huge killer. The idea that lockdowns/measure/panic kill was raised in April 2020, but that dialogue has been shut down and censored.

 

[Son of Jamin]

I have been a “good boy” and taken my three shots and I do believe the vaccines lessen the risks of being severely ill if infected. That can be readily seen by the differences between the average age for ICU-patients in Swedish hospitals that were vaccinated or not.

With that said, how they sold in the vaccines were highly problematic and may create a serious disbelief in the government if a new pandemic emerges:

- first we would get herd immunity through the vaccines.

- Then we would not spread the virus as much if we were vaccinated.

Yes, I know that there were mutations but they kept using the same selling points despite that.

I also find it despicable to make vaccination almost mandatory. In Sweden, they vilified the none-vaccinated, talked about that they should either be denied healthcare or at least pay for it.

Funny enough, I have never heard these talking heads say that gangbangers should be denied healthcare or pay for their own hospital care.

This is despite the fact that the constant shootings here have led to a lack of blood supplies at hospitals, especially during the pandemic.

If the governing bodies want the citizens to get vaccinated in the future, then they shouldn’t force people or ridicule those that are hesitant.