Experienced Reality based combateer V Pro MMA fighter on the street

[ironkhan57]

Lol. I can't speak for them. I'm pretty sure each branch experiences similar things to varying degrees. With the Marines, and probably the Army as well it is embedded into the culture (can't speak for the Army). It was just normal I guess.

When you'd have accountability formation the Monday following the weekend, First Sergeant would go around doing his inspection of the troops. Seeing if your uniform was squared away, haircuts, ID left breast pocket, dog tags that sort of thing.

He'd come across the guy with the black eye and ask "what happened to your face?"....."I was drunk and fell down the stairs in the barracks First Sergeant."...…"You fell huh? oh ok."...….fighting was not lawfully encouraged, but I guess permissible as long as property wasn't destroyed, and no one was hospitalized. If that happens then your CO has to see the General, and explain to them what happened (it gets political at that point).

Marines build a lot of camaraderie, and prove themselves to one another in training, and otherwise. That's what I like about them, largely they judge you based on who you prove yourself to be...…..not what society says you are. If you want to join the military, and have solid reasons for doing so good luck to you.

I have respect for all branches of service.

My reasons for joining the military are many.

I like to fight and want to learn the skills that the soldiers know, especially the self defense skills.

I lost a lot of jobs and feel that it's right for me, because I like to fight and I am actually not bad at using a gun aprently.

I'll meet a lot of people who have the same interest as me.

It will help me better stay in shape and it will basically push me too.

And fighting a long side a team instead of alone is something I always wanted to do.

And it will help me get a better job after, and people tell me it's something I might enjoy.

And I can train martial arts outside of the base and fight in competitions (at least that's what I heard as long as you let your commanders know.)

And it's also something that makes me want to work harder in.

Theirs so many reason why I want to join and a lot of the times when people tell me about their life in the military and tell me what will happen that's what makes me want to join so bad, even the thing you said.

I really hope I can get everything sorted out before mid 2019 that would be great.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

My reasons for joining the military are many.

I like to fight and want to learn the skills that the soldiers know, especially the self defense skills.

I lost a lot of jobs and feel that it's right for me, because I like to fight and I am actually not bad at using a gun aprently.

I'll meet a lot of people who have the same interest as me.

It will help me better stay in shape and it will basically push me too.

And fighting a long side a team instead of alone is something I always wanted to do.

And it will help me get a better job after, and people tell me it's something I might enjoy.

And I can train martial arts outside of the base and fight in competitions (at least that's what I heard as long as you let your commanders know.)

And it's also something that makes me want to work harder in.

Theirs so many reason why I want to join and a lot of the times when people tell me about their life in the military and tell me what will happen that's what makes me want to join so bad, even the thing you said.

I really hope I can get everything sorted out before mid 2019 that would be great.

Sounds like you'll be a good fit (but of course I'm not a recruiter lol). You'll learn a ton of combative skills, especially squad tactics in the Marines. There are many opportunities. And yes, you can compete in combat sports just have to run it through the chain of command.

Who knows, you could be the guy who did both "RBSD" and Pro MMA. Then you could give us your expert opinion. Good luck to you.

 

[ironkhan57]

Sounds like you'll be a good fit (but of course I'm not a recruiter lol). You'll learn a ton of combative skills, especially squad tactics in the Marines. There are many opportunities. And yes, you can compete in combat sports just have to run it through the chain of command.

Who knows, you could be the guy who did both "RBSD" and Pro MMA. Then you could give us your expert opinion. Good luck to you.

That would be awesome. But would they try to pull you out of training for deployment? I've been doing any kind of research I can for the military once everything is sorted out I can go to any branch.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

That would be awesome. But would they try to pull you out of training for deployment? I've been doing any kind of research I can for the military once everything is sorted out I can go to any branch.

Yes, you can be pulled out of training you may be doing on your own time. Say if you are training at an MMA gym out in town, and your unit is set to deploy then you'll have to attend pre-deployment training, and go with them. The only way I could see you not being pulled is if you're assigned to a billet such as MCMAP Instructor (Martial Arts Instructor) and going through the course.
(https://www.fitness.marines.mil/Martial-Arts-Instructor/)

The needs of the military will come first. However, If you have a special billet (MCMAP Instructor for example), that should be what you'll be doing at least a portion of the time. Also, depending on where you deploy to you may have training facilities available. They set up field gyms all the time. You will be allowed to workout on deployment. Get some guys together who want to train, and make the most of your time wherever you end up until you get back. Plus, the money you make on deployment you can use to fund your MMA/martial arts endeavors.

 

[ironkhan57]

Yes, you can be pulled out of training you may be doing on your own time. Say if you are training at an MMA gym out in town, and your unit is set to deploy then you'll have to attend pre-deployment training, and go with them. The only way I could see you not being pulled is if you're assigned to a billet such as MCMAP Instructor (Martial Arts Instructor).
(https://www.fitness.marines.mil/Martial-Arts-Instructor/)

The needs of the military will come first. However, If you have a special billet (MCMAP Instructor for example), that should be what you'll be doing at least a portion of the time. Also, depending on where you deploy to you may have training facilities available. They set up field gyms all the time. You will be allowed to workout on deployment. Get some guys together who want to train, and make the most of your time wherever you end up until you get back. Plus, the money you make on deployment you can use to fund your MMA/martial arts endeavors.

Yeah that's how I know I'll enjoy my time their. I'm also looking to learn some martial arts that I've never trained. Hopefully their will be some people that train in martial arts like taekwondo, karate, sambo, luta livre, bjj, and sanda or just some style I've never heard of.

And I really hope I'll be stationed in a place where their will be some mma gyms available. I would love to spar with the fighters in their.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Yeah that's how I know I'll enjoy my time their. I'm also looking to learn some martial arts that I've never trained. Hopefully their will be some people that train in martial arts like taekwondo, karate, sambo, luta livre, bjj, and sanda or just some style I've never heard of.

And I really hope I'll be stationed in a place where their will be some mma gyms available. I would love to spar with the fighters in their.

You'll be exposed to people from all over the country with various backgrounds. There are also opportunities to travel the world. We went to Thailand for a joint op with the Thai Marines, and the ROK Marines. The Thais demonstrated Muay Thai, and the ROKs (South Koreans) demonstrated Taekwondo. It was pretty cool to learn from the source. You should have plenty of opportunities. Hope you get what you're looking for.

 

[chubbman]

MMA Guy, just follow the hammer house play book. Takedown ground and pound. No way a “specialist” combat or whatever you wanna call them has spent enough time on the ground perfecting armbars and triangles.

 

[empsim]

there is a reason we have never seen one of these trained killer soldiers or shaolin monks in the ufc

we have a krav maga class at the gym too. they go through scenarios like "if this happens, you do this and this" while the mma guys on the other side of the gym are wrestling, throwing and choking each other for 90 minutes. I know who I'd bet on in a fight.

 

[ironkhan57]

You'll be exposed to people from all over the country with various backgrounds. There are also opportunities to travel the world. We went to Thailand for a joint op with the Thai Marines, and the ROK Marines. The Thais demonstrated Muay Thai, and the ROKs (South Koreans) demonstrated Taekwondo. It was pretty cool to learn from the source. You should have plenty of opportunities. Hope you get what you're looking for.

Does America have a base in thailand? I keep trying to look up a list of bases but I never can find one? But especially going to thailand thats a place I've been trying to go for 2 years now. And it would be great to learn from the thai marines. I saw a video where a thai soldier beat a us marine in a boxing match. And you would think that the marine is the better boxer.

Edit: just looked it up again their is one. I don't know why google sometimes tells me thing and sometimes I can't find it when I look it up the first time, but then I find it looking it up months later.

 

[ironkhan57]

there is a reason we have never seen one of these trained killer soldiers or shaolin monks in the ufc

we have a krav maga class at the gym too. they go through scenarios like "if this happens, you do this and this" while the mma guys on the other side of the gym are wrestling, throwing and choking each other for 90 minutes. I know who I'd bet on in a fight.

Ummmm Tim Kennedy and randy couture?

 

[empsim]

Ummmm Tim Kennedy and randy couture?

they were fighters before joining the army.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Does America have a base in thailand? I keep trying to look up a list of bases but I never can find one? But especially going to thailand thats a place I've been trying to go for 2 years now. And it would be great to learn from the thai marines. I saw a video where a thai soldier beat a us marine in a boxing match. And you would think that the marine is the better boxer.

Edit: just looked it up again their is one. I don't know why google sometimes tells me thing and sometimes I can't find it when I look it up the first time, but then I find it looking it up months later.

When U.S. does joint ops with other militaries, it is common for that country to provide a base, and a barracks for U.S. troops. The Thais have their own camps.

U.S. Marine v Thai Marine? Fights are 50/50 at the end of the day. It comes down to the individual, training, experience, etc etc. There are some tough Thais out there. I have nothing but good things to say about the Thais.

 

[ironkhan57]

they were fighters before joining the army.

I thought randy couture was a wrestler and then wrestled in the army then started training mma?

 

[ironkhan57]

When U.S. does joint ops with other militaries, it is common for that country to provide a base, and a barracks for U.S. troops. The Thais have their own camps.

U.S. Marine v Thai Marine? Fights are 50/50 at the end of the day. It comes down to the individual, training, experience, etc etc. There are some tough Thais out there. I have nothing but good things to say about the Thais.

Yeah it's just that when you think of a thai, you really think of him just knowing muay thai really and a little bit of boxing.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Yeah it's just that when you think of a thai, you really think of him just knowing muay thai really and a little bit of boxing.

Yeah that is the general perception of them. They did demonstrate Muay Thai as the ROKs demonstrated TKD. I would have to see the spar you are referring to. I would have to know more about the Marine, and Thai you watched. I never count anyone out in a fight.

The Marines have produced guys like Ken Norton. However, there are guys who on skill alone I wouldn't have as my first pick to cover my back in a bar fight. Not that I'm looking for bar fights either. However, that doesn't mean they don't have heart (which can take you far). It's all on the individual. All Marines train hand to hand to a certain degree based on requirement, and then others really take what they do serious and put in extra training hours on their own. You sound like you'd be the latter.

During my experience the Marines won all of the war games conducted in the MOUT Town that was built against the ROKs, and the Thais. Again, this is all case by case. The Marines are good at what they do. From what I've seen the Thais and ROKs are good at what they do. However, the primary focus of military is not how you use your hands but how you use your weapon system. You're far more influential with a rifle on the battlespace than you are with your knuckles. lol

 

[ironkhan57]

Yeah that is the general perception of them. They did demonstrate Muay Thai as the ROKs demonstrated TKD. I would have to see the spar you are referring to. I would have to know more about the Marine, and Thai you watched. I never count anyone out in a fight.

The Marines have produced guys like Ken Norton. However, there are guys who on skill alone I wouldn't have as my first pick to cover my back in a bar fight. Not that I'm looking for bar fights either. However, that doesn't mean they don't have heart (which can take you far). It's all on the individual. All Marines train hand to hand to a certain degree based on requirement, and then others really take what they do serious and put in extra training hours on their own. You sound like you'd be the latter.

During my experience the Marines won all of the war games conducted in the MOUT Town that was built against the ROKs, and the Thais. Again, this is all case by case. The Marines are good at what they do. From what I've seen the Thais and ROKs are good at what they do. However, the primary focus of military is not how you use your hands but how you use your weapon system. You're far more influential with a rifle on the battlespace than you are with your knuckles. lol

Yeah marines are good boxers too, it was just a shock. And it was on YouTube just type in thai special forces vs marine. You'll find it. It was in one of the big military boxing events in 2012.

I know a marine boxer who is a hall of Famer. Both in the marines and in boxing. So I know a lot of them are real good.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Yeah marines are good boxers too, it was just a shock. And it was on YouTube just type in thai special forces vs marine. You'll find it. It was in one of the big military boxing events in 2012.

I know a marine boxer who is a hall of Famer. Both in the marines and in boxing. So I know a lot of them are real good.

That is awesome. Good luck to you on your decision, and journey. Be safe.

 

[ironkhan57]

That is awesome. Good luck to you on your decision, and journey. Be safe.

Alright thanks.

 

[fighthug]

Krav Maga does not have efficient flooring techniques because Imi did not know floor techniques.

Already the Kombato has some ground techniques taken from Jiu Jitsu.

In addition the Kombato has techniques against broken bottle that are more dangerous of knife.

How is it more efficient than Krav Maga exactly?

good question. all sorts of self defense systems claim to be more efficient/brutal/devastating than the other...as if everyone else is practicing safe/gentle techniques

and because it's friday afternoon and i'm bored, this:

 

[RightToBareKnuckles]

interesting. and what do you mean in your last statement? Kombato has techniques for both broken bottles and knife? just curious.
thanks,