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See? They need Jews.
International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. III
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Doesn’t answer. Creates strawmen. Calls you psycho for thinking Hamas needs to go. Flawless Victory. Trollality
I answered the question. The total annihilation of Hamas is a stupid endeavor and achieves nothing.
I also want China to release the million uyghurs held in jail but how realistic is that?
Stop living in a fantasy world. Accepting his first ridiculous point leads to the stupid answer he wants.
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Where is your answer to the question? If you don’t have one shut up and stop quoting me
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Lucky the world didn't listen to the likes of you when Isis was in full power, we'd still be watching videos of people being beheaded in orange jumpsuits.
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Israel should just give Hamas 4 Jews a month to kill. That’s fair
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Tbf the West actually went after Isis for the most part rather than just bombing anyone who lives near them, although of course there was some collateral damage.
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No, not ALL because of that. That's making massive assumptions that the PLA would've held power in an area where it's shown to be difficult to do. It's also assuming that there wouldn't be any sort of a shift in mindset or tactics by a more "moderate" group.
Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by foreign governments that want Israel gone, to no longer exist. It's ridiculous to work under the narrative that ONLY Israel could be responsible for the ascension of extremists into positions of power in Palestine when there's no question that Tehran, Damascus, etc would be constantly scheming and cooking up ways to wage proxy wars regardless of who happened to be running Israel.
The picture involves a lot more players than how you're trying to frame it.
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Western coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza – bias or unprofessionalism?
Media experts say some agencies are ‘legitimising Israeli war crimes’ in Gaza.
By Mat Nashed
Published On 29 Oct 202329 Oct 2023
Publishing unsubstantiated claims, telling only one side of the story, and painting Palestinians as nothing more than objects in Hamas’s hands are all unprofessional mistakes Western media makes while covering the conflict between Israel and Hamas, media experts and Arab journalists say.
Experts and journalists who spoke to Al Jazeera said the systemic “bias in favour of Israel” is “irreparably damaging” the credibility of news agencies considered “mainstream” in the eyes of Arabs and others.
As Western media organisations “dehumanise Palestinians” and “legitimise Israeli violations of international law” as Israel bombs Gaza, it is glaringly obvious that the vital historical context of the trauma Palestinians have been through for the past 75 years is being left out, experts say.
One-sided
On October 7, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack on military outposts and communities in southern Israel, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 200 hostages back to Gaza, according to Israeli officials.
The same day, Israel launched a relentless bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 8,000 people, about 40 percent of whom are children.
It also devastated Gaza’s health sector and flattened much of its infrastructure while strengthening its choke-hold siege by cutting off fuel, water and food – acts that may amount to war crimes under international humanitarian law.
United Nations experts say Palestinians in Gaza are facing the risk of genocide.
Western correspondents have gone to Israel where they reported extensively on the grief of Israeli families, but Israel has not allowed foreign journalists to enter Gaza, which means they’re missing a vital aspect of the story.
“If you don’t live in Gaza, if you don’t listen to the prayers Palestinians make when they lose loved ones, if you don’t learn about the life story of loved ones [who have been killed] …then the coverage [of Gaza] won’t be the same [as the coverage of Israel],” Taghreed El-Khodary, an analyst from Gaza, told Al Jazeera from her home in the Netherlands.
This means, she continued, that they “are not just covering the Israeli narrative, but they are living the Israeli narrative”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...israels-war-on-gaza-bias-or-unprofessionalism
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Media experts say some agencies are ‘legitimising Israeli war crimes’ in Gaza.
By Mat Nashed
Published On 29 Oct 202329 Oct 2023
Publishing unsubstantiated claims, telling only one side of the story, and painting Palestinians as nothing more than objects in Hamas’s hands are all unprofessional mistakes Western media makes while covering the conflict between Israel and Hamas, media experts and Arab journalists say.
Experts and journalists who spoke to Al Jazeera said the systemic “bias in favour of Israel” is “irreparably damaging” the credibility of news agencies considered “mainstream” in the eyes of Arabs and others.
As Western media organisations “dehumanise Palestinians” and “legitimise Israeli violations of international law” as Israel bombs Gaza, it is glaringly obvious that the vital historical context of the trauma Palestinians have been through for the past 75 years is being left out, experts say.
One-sided
On October 7, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack on military outposts and communities in southern Israel, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 200 hostages back to Gaza, according to Israeli officials.
The same day, Israel launched a relentless bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 8,000 people, about 40 percent of whom are children.
It also devastated Gaza’s health sector and flattened much of its infrastructure while strengthening its choke-hold siege by cutting off fuel, water and food – acts that may amount to war crimes under international humanitarian law.
United Nations experts say Palestinians in Gaza are facing the risk of genocide.
Western correspondents have gone to Israel where they reported extensively on the grief of Israeli families, but Israel has not allowed foreign journalists to enter Gaza, which means they’re missing a vital aspect of the story.
“If you don’t live in Gaza, if you don’t listen to the prayers Palestinians make when they lose loved ones, if you don’t learn about the life story of loved ones [who have been killed] …then the coverage [of Gaza] won’t be the same [as the coverage of Israel],” Taghreed El-Khodary, an analyst from Gaza, told Al Jazeera from her home in the Netherlands.
This means, she continued, that they “are not just covering the Israeli narrative, but they are living the Israeli narrative”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...israels-war-on-gaza-bias-or-unprofessionalism
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‘Our turn to die’: A Gaza blackout, the roar of Israeli jets and screams
The absence of communications for 36 hours meant that families in Gaza couldn’t even call for help amid the bombing.
By Mohammed R Mhawish
Published On 30 Oct 202330 Oct 2023
Al-Sudaniya, Gaza Strip — As soon as the communication networks went down on Friday, Mohamed said he “knew something was wrong”.
“But we didn’t know what was about to happen.”
For the 36 hours that followed, Mohamed and 21 others in his al-Qotati family — immediate and extended relatives — huddled together, screaming out loud with every Israeli shell that landed nearby in their northern Gaza district of al-Sudaniya, but otherwise staying still.
As bombs fell, the sudden absence of communications tools paralysed rescue teams. Inside homes, the tension mounted.
Mohamed gathered everyone in his family in the same room and asked them to stay below the windows, for fear of flying glass from Israeli explosions.
Amal, 30, Mohamed’s oldest sister, said she had never known more fear. “We had no electricity at the house and our (flashlights) had barely been lighting,” she recalled.
“The heavy explosions shook the ground beneath us and lit the room as if it was midday,” Amal said. “At one point, we felt that it was a matter of seconds before an artillery bomb hit one of our walls, or worse, an air strike.”
Mohamed said that it wasn’t being bombed that scared him so much, as that he would be unable to call for help.
“We all kept trying to switch our phones off and on, hoping that the network service would work again. But it unfortunately did not,” he said. “And that is what seemed the worst of it all.”
Beyond the explosions, all that could be heard was the roar of the Israeli F-16 fighter jets overhead.
Everything, from the intensity of the bombardment to the communication networks being cut off, pointed to a ground invasion in the north of Gaza, the family said.
It was the same for the al-Shanti family, living in a two-bedroom apartment in the Jabalia refugee camp along with 36 other people, whose walls shook every time an explosion hit nearby.
“No matter how hard we all tried to put on masks of strength, the [sound of] warplanes” cut through efforts at staying calm, 22-year-old Malak said. “We all kept screaming and praying that we stay safe. It was hell,” she recalled.
Malak says an air strike hit 100 metres from her father’s apartment, shaking the floor underneath their feet and enveloping the room with black smoke.
“It was one of the moments when you feel your time has finished and that it is your turn to die,” Malak said, her voice and eyelids trembling.
Smoke filled the room, choking the family and the others who had crammed into the tiny apartment. Worried the children might gag on the acrid fumes, Malak’s mother soaked a towel, hoping the water might act as a mask and keep the worst of the fumes out.
“Everyone used the same towel, it was all that we had as a protection from the smell of explosives, until my father took off his shirt and helped the other kids in the room breathe normally,” Malak remembered.
The family kept the towel by their side, continuing to use it until it was dry.
All the while, rumours of Israel’s intention to invade the Gaza Strip through the north spread like wildfire. Nobody knew what was happening. In the absence of definite information, stories swirled of the Israeli army moving noiselessly from house to house, killing the inhabitants in silence.
The family’s instinct to run for their lives was only stymied by their fear of the bombardment outside.
“It was coming from every corner and the air raids fell continuously to the extent that we had nowhere to escape to,” said Malak, “The entire north of Gaza was under fire. We had nowhere to go.”
“They were the longest nights since Israel began its war in Gaza.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...blackout-the-roar-of-israeli-jets-and-screams
The absence of communications for 36 hours meant that families in Gaza couldn’t even call for help amid the bombing.
By Mohammed R Mhawish
Published On 30 Oct 202330 Oct 2023
Al-Sudaniya, Gaza Strip — As soon as the communication networks went down on Friday, Mohamed said he “knew something was wrong”.
“But we didn’t know what was about to happen.”
For the 36 hours that followed, Mohamed and 21 others in his al-Qotati family — immediate and extended relatives — huddled together, screaming out loud with every Israeli shell that landed nearby in their northern Gaza district of al-Sudaniya, but otherwise staying still.
As bombs fell, the sudden absence of communications tools paralysed rescue teams. Inside homes, the tension mounted.
Mohamed gathered everyone in his family in the same room and asked them to stay below the windows, for fear of flying glass from Israeli explosions.
Amal, 30, Mohamed’s oldest sister, said she had never known more fear. “We had no electricity at the house and our (flashlights) had barely been lighting,” she recalled.
“The heavy explosions shook the ground beneath us and lit the room as if it was midday,” Amal said. “At one point, we felt that it was a matter of seconds before an artillery bomb hit one of our walls, or worse, an air strike.”
Mohamed said that it wasn’t being bombed that scared him so much, as that he would be unable to call for help.
“We all kept trying to switch our phones off and on, hoping that the network service would work again. But it unfortunately did not,” he said. “And that is what seemed the worst of it all.”
Beyond the explosions, all that could be heard was the roar of the Israeli F-16 fighter jets overhead.
Everything, from the intensity of the bombardment to the communication networks being cut off, pointed to a ground invasion in the north of Gaza, the family said.
It was the same for the al-Shanti family, living in a two-bedroom apartment in the Jabalia refugee camp along with 36 other people, whose walls shook every time an explosion hit nearby.
“No matter how hard we all tried to put on masks of strength, the [sound of] warplanes” cut through efforts at staying calm, 22-year-old Malak said. “We all kept screaming and praying that we stay safe. It was hell,” she recalled.
Malak says an air strike hit 100 metres from her father’s apartment, shaking the floor underneath their feet and enveloping the room with black smoke.
“It was one of the moments when you feel your time has finished and that it is your turn to die,” Malak said, her voice and eyelids trembling.
Smoke filled the room, choking the family and the others who had crammed into the tiny apartment. Worried the children might gag on the acrid fumes, Malak’s mother soaked a towel, hoping the water might act as a mask and keep the worst of the fumes out.
“Everyone used the same towel, it was all that we had as a protection from the smell of explosives, until my father took off his shirt and helped the other kids in the room breathe normally,” Malak remembered.
The family kept the towel by their side, continuing to use it until it was dry.
All the while, rumours of Israel’s intention to invade the Gaza Strip through the north spread like wildfire. Nobody knew what was happening. In the absence of definite information, stories swirled of the Israeli army moving noiselessly from house to house, killing the inhabitants in silence.
The family’s instinct to run for their lives was only stymied by their fear of the bombardment outside.
“It was coming from every corner and the air raids fell continuously to the extent that we had nowhere to escape to,” said Malak, “The entire north of Gaza was under fire. We had nowhere to go.”
“They were the longest nights since Israel began its war in Gaza.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...blackout-the-roar-of-israeli-jets-and-screams
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Western coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza – bias or unprofessionalism?
Media experts say some agencies are ‘legitimising Israeli war crimes’ in Gaza.
By Mat Nashed
Published On 29 Oct 202329 Oct 2023
Publishing unsubstantiated claims, telling only one side of the story, and painting Palestinians as nothing more than objects in Hamas’s hands are all unprofessional mistakes Western media makes while covering the conflict between Israel and Hamas, media experts and Arab journalists say.
Experts and journalists who spoke to Al Jazeera said the systemic “bias in favour of Israel” is “irreparably damaging” the credibility of news agencies considered “mainstream” in the eyes of Arabs and others.
As Western media organisations “dehumanise Palestinians” and “legitimise Israeli violations of international law” as Israel bombs Gaza, it is glaringly obvious that the vital historical context of the trauma Palestinians have been through for the past 75 years is being left out, experts say.
One-sided
On October 7, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack on military outposts and communities in southern Israel, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 200 hostages back to Gaza, according to Israeli officials.
The same day, Israel launched a relentless bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 8,000 people, about 40 percent of whom are children.
It also devastated Gaza’s health sector and flattened much of its infrastructure while strengthening its choke-hold siege by cutting off fuel, water and food – acts that may amount to war crimes under international humanitarian law.
United Nations experts say Palestinians in Gaza are facing the risk of genocide.
Western correspondents have gone to Israel where they reported extensively on the grief of Israeli families, but Israel has not allowed foreign journalists to enter Gaza, which means they’re missing a vital aspect of the story.
“If you don’t live in Gaza, if you don’t listen to the prayers Palestinians make when they lose loved ones, if you don’t learn about the life story of loved ones [who have been killed] …then the coverage [of Gaza] won’t be the same [as the coverage of Israel],” Taghreed El-Khodary, an analyst from Gaza, told Al Jazeera from her home in the Netherlands.
This means, she continued, that they “are not just covering the Israeli narrative, but they are living the Israeli narrative”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...israels-war-on-gaza-bias-or-unprofessionalism
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It amuses me that the BBC are getting loads of shit for being somewhat down the middle in their reporting.
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The two parties might quibble in public about a few policy issues but both are absolutely dedicated to Zionism.
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I never thought that I would see the entire world turning against the Jews.
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Is that really what you think you're seeing?
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Sure looks like it.
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90% of the media I'm seeing would seem to be pro-Israeli to me.
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and Israel could have gone the route of not expanding settlements and being an apartheid state and not running the world's largest open air prsion but they did not.
and hamas are religous nuts so nonviolence not really a thing.
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Western coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza – bias or unprofessionalism?
Media experts say some agencies are ‘legitimising Israeli war crimes’ in Gaza.
By Mat Nashed
Published On 29 Oct 202329 Oct 2023
Publishing unsubstantiated claims, telling only one side of the story, and painting Palestinians as nothing more than objects in Hamas’s hands are all unprofessional mistakes Western media makes while covering the conflict between Israel and Hamas, media experts and Arab journalists say.
Experts and journalists who spoke to Al Jazeera said the systemic “bias in favour of Israel” is “irreparably damaging” the credibility of news agencies considered “mainstream” in the eyes of Arabs and others.
As Western media organisations “dehumanise Palestinians” and “legitimise Israeli violations of international law” as Israel bombs Gaza, it is glaringly obvious that the vital historical context of the trauma Palestinians have been through for the past 75 years is being left out, experts say.
One-sided
On October 7, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack on military outposts and communities in southern Israel, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 200 hostages back to Gaza, according to Israeli officials.
The same day, Israel launched a relentless bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 8,000 people, about 40 percent of whom are children.
It also devastated Gaza’s health sector and flattened much of its infrastructure while strengthening its choke-hold siege by cutting off fuel, water and food – acts that may amount to war crimes under international humanitarian law.
United Nations experts say Palestinians in Gaza are facing the risk of genocide.
Western correspondents have gone to Israel where they reported extensively on the grief of Israeli families, but Israel has not allowed foreign journalists to enter Gaza, which means they’re missing a vital aspect of the story.
“If you don’t live in Gaza, if you don’t listen to the prayers Palestinians make when they lose loved ones, if you don’t learn about the life story of loved ones [who have been killed] …then the coverage [of Gaza] won’t be the same [as the coverage of Israel],” Taghreed El-Khodary, an analyst from Gaza, told Al Jazeera from her home in the Netherlands.
This means, she continued, that they “are not just covering the Israeli narrative, but they are living the Israeli narrative”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...israels-war-on-gaza-bias-or-unprofessionalism
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I'm sorry, but I can't take these numbers seriously.
Source: Aj Jazeera and the Palestinian Ministry of Health.
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