International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I suppose you have a small pixelated penis too. Stop replying to me with bullshit points.

Yeah. Spoken like a racist, lonely old geezer who spends his Friday nights drinking wine and jerking off to freaky Japanese porn in the candlelit basement of his mom's house.

Fucking jerkoff. Does it irk you when I reply to your dumbass posts with a counterargument? I mean, that's exactly what you've been doing to me in this thread, hypocrite. Why are you being such a fucking crybaby about it?

 

[Hog-train]

You say that now. If shit ever got real, we'll see how much you don't care.

PS: Iran just went about as "all out" as they're capable of(something I'm sure you don't believe), and the Iron dome(along with Israel's allies, which would be a factor in a war with Iran), smoked 99% of their grand and glorious "attack".

They've got nothing. You might actually find that out sooner than later. They're crazy zealot bums, who would destroy their enemies if they had the capability. They don't. Biggest paper tiger nation in the world, outside of North Korea.

Iran did not go "all out" just now LOL. You seem to be just making shit up on the fly with zero research.

Iran has the largest arsenal of missile and drones in the Middle East.

They don't have a stronger military than Israel, but could still do significant damage due to their small landmass. Israel would wreck Iran with strikes too. But all out defeat - no on either side.

A Look at Iran’s Military Capabilities

The direct military confrontation between Iran and Israel has brought renewed attention to Iran’s armed forces. What are they capable of?

www.nytimes.com

Yeah. Spoken like a racist, lonely old geezer who spends his Friday nights drinking wine and jerking off to freaky Japanese porn in the candlelit basement of his mom's house.

Fucking jerkoff. Does it irk you when I reply to your dumbass posts with a counterargument? I mean, that's exactly what you've been doing to me in this thread, hypocrite. Why are you being such a fucking crybaby about it?

Hit a nerve I guess Yea "geezer" in his 30's that's the same age as you. Stop replying to me with troll like posts.

 

[HereticBD]

Iran did not go "all out" just now LOL. You seem to be just making shit up on the fly with zero research.

Iran has the largest arsenal of missile and drones in the Middle East.

They don't have a stronger military than Israel, but could still do significant damage due to their small landmass. Israel would wreck Iran with strikes too. But all out defeat - no on either side.

A Look at Iran’s Military Capabilities

The direct military confrontation between Iran and Israel has brought renewed attention to Iran’s armed forces. What are they capable of?

www.nytimes.com

Yeah, sure bud. You do realize that Israel doesn't actually have to commit genocide to defeat Iran, right? You're suggesting that Israel can only win with total annihilation of the entire region. It wouldn't take that much, I assure you. Keep on truckin', though. Read those NY Times articles like nobody's business. Getting mighty close to shit getting real, and you finding out that Iran is nothing but a bag of hot air.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Iran did not go "all out" just now LOL. You seem to be just making shit up on the fly with zero research.

Iran has the largest arsenal of missile and drones in the Middle East.

They don't have a stronger military than Israel, but could still do significant damage due to their small landmass. Israel would wreck Iran with strikes too. But all out defeat - no on either side.

A Look at Iran’s Military Capabilities

The direct military confrontation between Iran and Israel has brought renewed attention to Iran’s armed forces. What are they capable of?

www.nytimes.com

Hit a nerve I guess Yea "geezer" in his 30's that's the same age as you. Stop replying to me with troll like posts.

Yeah sure. Largest arsenal of missiles and drones in the ME. What does it say when nearly 500 projectiles launched from them did fuck all except hurt a 7 year old Bedouin girl? Their military is just as impotent as you, limp dick.

 

[Hog-train]

Yeah, sure bud. You do realize that Israel doesn't actually have to commit genocide to defeat Iran, right? You're suggesting that Israel can only win with total annihilation of the entire region. It wouldn't take that much, I assure you. Keep on truckin', though. Read those NY Times articles like nobody's business. Getting mighty close to shit getting real, and you finding out that Iran is nothing but a bag of hot air.

We got a badass over here. Shit's gonna get real!

 

[Denter]

Uh no the US could definitely pummel Iran with a bombing campaign if it decided to. Invasion is a different story. They could do that too but it would be difficult and costly. I’m glad that it looks as if we won’t be

Sure, pummeling could be done. But there are many US bases well within range of Iran's ballistic and cruise missiles now. In order to do a serious, long air campaign (instead of just damaging stuff, calling it a win, and leaving) you need to move a ton of logistics very close. It should be obvious what the problem with that is by now.

I've heard people say that we could cripple Iran's economy by destroying their refineries. That's true, but you still invite the counter attacks, and oil being a fungible commodity, you push the price way up, which they don't want to do right now.

All things considered, the path of de-escalation being persued right now is the best thing to do. Let Israel know this is the final word on it.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Sure, pummeling could be done. But there are many US bases well within range of Iran's ballistic and cruise missiles now. In order to do a serious, long air campaign (instead of just damaging stuff, calling it a win, and leaving) you need to move a ton of logistics very close. It should be obvious what the problem with that is by now.

I've heard people say that we could cripple Iran's economy by destroying their refineries. That's true, but you still invite the counter attacks, and oil being a fungible commodity, you push the price way up, which they don't want to do right now.

All things considered, the path of de-escalation being persued right now is the best thing to do. Let Israel know this is the final word on it.

In a full blown conflict they won’t be able to do much damage to our bases before they’re crippled by the overwhelming firepower our navy and air force would bring to bear. We have bases all around the area. We would even probably be able to use Israel if it came too it as I’m sure they’d be more than happy to let us attack Iran from there. Our aircraft carriers are still an unstoppable force.

I don’t want a conflict to escalate. I am aware that it would do more damage to a fragile world economy on top of the potential humanitarian disaster. No I would much prefer it if the world as a whole would calm the hell down. I’m simply stating that yes we could devastate them if we needed too.

 

[tastaylvr]

Imagine being the country that helped the fundamentalists into power then complain they are being extreme

Such bizarre behaviour

 

[Denter]

In a full blown conflict they won’t be able to do much damage to our bases before they’re crippled by the overwhelming firepower our navy and air force would bring to bear. We have bases all around the area. We would even probably be able to use Israel if it came too it as I’m sure they’d be more than happy to let us attack Iran from there. Our aircraft carriers are still an unstoppable force.

I don’t want a conflict to escalate. I am aware that it would do more damage to a fragile world economy on top of the potential humanitarian disaster. No I would much prefer it if the world as a whole would calm the hell down. I’m simply stating that yes we could devastate them if we needed too.

Israel is 1,000 miles from Iran. Which bases could our planes sortie out of that would be immune to missile bombardment? What's the range of a carrier launched F-35? How many Tomahawks can the navy shoot before it has to go reload? How many can be made per year? Where is the closest safe base to reload the ships? Which nations will open their borders to us to attack Iran and invite infrastructure strikes in retaliation? Does Iran have sufficient anti-ship missiles to close the straight of Hormuz? What would that do the world economy? Etc, etc.

Think about this for a moment and you'll start to see that its a fantasy.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Israel is 1,000 miles from Iran. Which bases could our planes sortie out of that would be immune to missile bombardment? What's the range of a carrier launched F-35? How many Tomahawks can the navy shoot before it has to go reload? How many can be made per year? Where is the closest safe base to reload the ships? Which nations will open their borders to us to attack Iran and invite infrastructure strikes in retaliation? Does Iran have sufficient anti-ship missiles to close the straight of Hormuz? What would that do the world economy? Etc, etc.

Think about this for a moment and you'll start to see that its a fantasy.

All of which you are free to google. I mean you realize we pounded Iraq into the ground for 2 straight months before we ever put boots on ground right? Theres no fantasy. You just don't seem to understand how OP US airpower is

BTW we can bomb them from Texas

 

[Rational Poster]

All of which you are free to google. I mean you realize we pounded Iraq into the ground for 2 straight months before we ever put boots on ground right? Theres no fantasy. You just don't seem to understand how OP US airpower is

BTW we can bomb them from Texas

Also fair to note, Iraq had one of the most advanced and robust air defense networks outside of NATO by a lot at the time.

 

[Rational Poster]

oops wrong thread

 

[sangreporsangre]

They have to kill these children to defend themselves.

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[scoopj]

Interesting piece on Hamas casualty numbers:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Little note, at this point that doens't mean that it has been proven they've made up some 11k victims, but it very much does indicate they're just slinging stuff out there.

From your link:

“It is important to recognize that Hamas is deeply invested in shaping the narrative that emerges from Gaza, particularly regarding the number of casualties in the war. Moreover, this control of data extends beyond the statistics provided by the Hamas-controlled health ministry, as there is also a deliberate effort to downplay the number of terrorists who have been killed by Israel in the war, potentially numbering more than 10,000.” — Joe Truzman, Senior Research Analyst at FDD’s Long War Journal

So if true, the “civilian” count could be more like 11k or 12k. Still tragic and terrible.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Hmm...

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

43 Democratic and 1 Republican Congressmen voted against condemning the phrase "From the river to the sea" as hate speech:

 

[iwannabeadored]

They have to kill these children to defend themselves.

Of course. They are preventing the next generation of Hamas lol

 

[iwannabeadored]

From your link:

“It is important to recognize that Hamas is deeply invested in shaping the narrative that emerges from Gaza, particularly regarding the number of casualties in the war. Moreover, this control of data extends beyond the statistics provided by the Hamas-controlled health ministry, as there is also a deliberate effort to downplay the number of terrorists who have been killed by Israel in the war, potentially numbering more than 10,000.” — Joe Truzman, Senior Research Analyst at FDD’s Long War Journal

So if true, the “civilian” count could be more like 11k or 12k. Still tragic and terrible.

Israel is counting every male killed as Hamas.

 

[Rholk]

Israel is counting every male killed as Hamas.

Not really.