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They already got women's LWCreate a division nobody else has.
They already got women's LWCreate a division nobody else has.
They already got women's LW
Go after bigger names.
Co-promote and fighter exchange with Rizin and Bellator.
I agree with your post TS.
- Go after big names - The PFL needs to try their hand at securing far bigger names if they want to be successful. The biggest names this season were Shields, Brooks, and Rashid Magomedov at a very distant third. Definitely won't cut it for ratings. Go after guys like Vitor Belfort and Frank Mir for one-offs, or at least attempt to outbid the UFC for top 10 well-known talents like Mousasi and Alvarez.
- Co-Promote - WSOF/PFL has had no problem letting fighters fight in other orgs temporarily in the past. Why not do it officially? Send one or two fighters with fan-friendly styles to RIZIN NYE and get some buzz about their own NYE event.
Semis 3 rounds not that shit of 2 and the winner of the first round advancing was horrible...
I felt like fans wanted to dissect the rankings, and they wanted those dramatic moments where a fighter needed to end a bout by the 2nd round or they'd be eliminated.
Unfortunately because there were so few fighters and fights per division, how you won didn't really matter. Jared Rosholt, Josh Copeland, and Jake Shields all made the playoffs despite only winning 1 decision and getting destroyed in their other bout. It took away the importance of everything you'd watch.
Get on a better network for MMA like FS1 and FS2.
Well, don’t spend ten minutes looking through the rule book, killing air time. Have that stuff ready next year.
Going after bigger names goes without saying.
Minor change: make the quarterfinal bouts a single round instead of two, to do away with the draws and presumably boost the pace.
Major change: Make all regular season bouts a single round to increase action and the amount of times a fighter can compete during the season. Point system would change to: Draw = 1, Decision = 3, Finish = 5.
The entire tournament could be held in one night: 1 round for quarterfinal and semifinal fights, 3 rounds for the finals. But the current format (with the 1 round QF) is okay too.
Also, with all the trade talk recently, a formal deal where the tournament winners can be traded to the UFC in exchange for veteran fighters.
HW: Arlovski
LHW: OSP
MW: Hall
WW: Cerrone
LW: Barboza
FW: Swanson
Honestly I would love for the PFL to merge with the UFC and basically become the new format for TUF. They just need a few seasons to iron out the kinks.
CD why would Bellator co promote with PFL (a tournament company) nothing to gain from...business wise doesn’t make sense.
Also can they please find a knowledgeable play by play guy instead of Todd Harris.....
Not going to happenThey could loan fighters to Bellator and vice versa. PFL could have their tournament champions fight the guys Bellator sends over.
They could loan fighters to Bellator and vice versa. PFL could have their tournament champions fight the guys Bellator sends over.
Blah blah blah, FS1 and FS2 lost the UFC, which means they lost programming to sell commercial rights to in order to make money. So FS1 and FS2 would want some counter programming since they lost the UFC and that money. And with the PFL, FS1 and 2 would pay a whole lot less to bring PFL over than they ever did with the UFC. And since FS1 and 2 are no longer going to be part of FOX because of the Disney purchasing of FOX, FS1 and 2 are going to be in the market to find inexpensive ways to generate profit and the PFL would fit that model. And with PFL investors being people like Tony Robbins, Kevin Hart, the Washington Capitals owner, MGM Studios owner, and others, these are not stupid people who don't know how to make money. So getting on another network may be beneficial or even having about 4 shows on NBC would help for 2019. Whatever the PFL does, I hope their decision makers will get on a platform that will get more eyes on their organization as opposed to getting a platform like DAZN , which will draw less eyes on their organizationHonestly, what PFL needs to become a successful organization is to be financially profitable. Or at least, financially stable.
Even the UFC only bring in about 500.000-600.000 viewers on TV these days. How exactly is PFL going to top that, who only do around 125.000?
Elite XC used to do UFC-numbers, around half-a-million by event -- even though that was back in 2008. And they crashed and burned with a 40 million deficit despite that.
Any way you cut it, PFL just looks like a bad business idea. Meaning it's not maintainable.
Honestly, their best bet is probably seducing some luny billionaire who don't mind burning millions of dollars because it's his pet-hobby.
One thing to consider...
PFL is basically a showcase for Ali Abdel Aziz's fighters (Dominance MMA), the most powerful manager in MMA. It gives his guys a spotlight and gives him some big income. Ali was a part-owner of WSOF -- and although he isn't officially involved in PFL due to the backlash over the conflict of interest this causes (favorable match-ups) -- he's obviously still a big monkey backstage. Therefore, PFL's focus is always going to be directed towards servicing whoever Ali has signed first that isn't in the UFC.
Also, how are they supposed to afford Alvarez and Mousasi in the first place? Remember, they get their usual salary + the Tournament prizes. That would put them even deeper in the red.
This is unlikely to work with casuals, which is what they need to attract in the first place.
States-commissions like California and Arizona have shown that they don't care about the 25-minutes max rules. They should just hold the Quarters and Semis exclusively there so that they can do 15+15 minute fights.
Yeah, you kind of need to have, say, 4 more fighters in every division for the ranking system to really become a major player.
They're making around 100.000-150.000 viewers on NBC Sports right now. They basically exist there because NBC wants to have an alternative to the Fox-allied UFC. Would those other channels even want PFL with such abysmaly paltry figures on such a big channel?
To be fair, it looked like not even the Commissions knew what the hell they were doing at those events.
The minute, often harebrained differences between State-Commissions is just galling. Like Illinois rule that if a fighters gets unintentionally kicked in the groin and is unable to continue, the kicker gets the win. Or the fact that a Doctor's Stoppage loss counts as having occurred in the round that is about to start, instead of the round it happens in. This are the sort of counter-intuitive bullshit that you would assume to be a joke if you sat down and read it.
The fact that MMA is state-based instead of Federal just means that you're going to have 50-states that do whatever the fuck they want, so idiotic differences and idiosyncratic claptrap is almost unavoidable.
going to be in the market to find inexpensive ways to generate profit
They could loan fighters to Bellator and vice versa. PFL could have their tournament champions fight the guys Bellator sends over.
Aren't they still tied to the UFC? I'm out of the loop with the PFL, but I'd think if any talent was exchanged or signed after being cut by the UFC and told to go sign with WSOF/PFL it would be between these two companies and not Bellator.