If the CIA killed Kennedy then I agree with the decision to not make this information public

RoñaCastroJr said:
Could you elaborate please shermano
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In short, I believe JFK learned that Israel had used a spy to steal nuclear secrets from them and that Israel was using their reactor to create nuclear weapons. JFK was furious and despite being an avid supporter of Israel things got very heated. He told them they couldn't have nukes. Israel didn't confirm or deny but implied he could 'fuck off'. JFK demanded weapons inspectors be allowed in to inspect the site. They stalled and refused. This went back and forth and tempers flared, JFK threatened to withdraw support for Israel
This was from around July 63 onwards. Obviously he was killed a few months later and Israel let some weapons inspectors in under LBJ. But it has been implied they were 'very weak' inspections. I can't find the original article that had a whole timeline. There are a lot of articles out there but many are behind paywalls sadly (hence I can't verify word for word what I'm saying here).

Fact is, JFK had a lot happen in his presidency and had a lot of powerful enemies, he wasn't destined to died in bed as an old man. Mossad are well known for doing hits and making look like someone else did it, hence why I said 'another suspect'.

www.jta.org

President Kennedy gave Israel a strong warning about its nuclear reactor in 1963 - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Israel assented that year to biannual inspections to maintain U.S. support.
www.jta.org www.jta.org
 
This is why institutionalism is so evil. It judges good by protecting the institution as if that is the priority and that people are to serve the institutions instead of the other way around. If an institution doesn't do right by it's people it needs to go.
 
Sobek said:
In short, I believe JFK learned that Israel had used a spy to steal nuclear secrets from them and that Israel was using their reactor to create nuclear weapons. JFK was furious and despite being an avid supporter of Israel things got very heated. He told them they couldn't have nukes. Israel didn't confirm or deny but implied he could 'fuck off'. JFK demanded weapons inspectors be allowed in to inspect the site. They stalled and refused. This went back and forth and tempers flared, JFK threatened to withdraw support for Israel
This was from around July 63 onwards. Obviously he was killed a few months later and Israel let some weapons inspectors in under LBJ. But it has been implied they were 'very weak' inspections. I can't find the original article that had a whole timeline. There are a lot of articles out there but many are behind paywalls sadly (hence I can't verify word for word what I'm saying here).

Fact is, JFK had a lot happen in his presidency and had a lot of powerful enemies, he wasn't destined to died in bed as an old man. Mossad are well known for doing hits and making look like someone else did it, hence why I said 'another suspect'.

www.jta.org

President Kennedy gave Israel a strong warning about its nuclear reactor in 1963 - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Israel assented that year to biannual inspections to maintain U.S. support.
www.jta.org www.jta.org
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words of wisdom, lloyd.. words of wisdom
 
Seahawks Fan said:
Along with UFOs, the question of who killed Kennedy are a part of a handful of conspiracies that actually have some weight to them.

But unlike UFOs, if the Kennedy conspiracy is real I don't think it should become public knowledge any time soon.

Hear me out. At the moment we have the lowest levels of public trust in the government in history. People have lost faith in the government and many just flat out see them as the bad guy.

Now imagine in this climate letting the public know that the government killed Kennedy. Whatever little trust people have left in government would be flushed down the toilet.

If I were in charge of the documents that detail what actually happened to Kennedy I would insist that they be kept private until public opinion of government reached a positive tipping point. I would also insist that the information be made as broad and general as possible for fear of damaging the current reputations of important institutions: for example if the CiA had something to do with it I would not make that clear. I would say "a group of special officers who were connected to the government of which Kennedy presided conspired to have him killed".

In the end I think there will be significant reputational damage done when the truth is revealed, but if it's done at the right time and in the right way then the damage cam be as minimized as much as possible
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"Lowest levels of trust"...and you seeing lying to people as the way to gain that trust.

Fuckin genius.


And you wonder why I bust his balls all the time @Fengxian
 
Seahawks Fan said:
Along with UFOs, the question of who killed Kennedy are a part of a handful of conspiracies that actually have some weight to them.

But unlike UFOs, if the Kennedy conspiracy is real I don't think it should become public knowledge any time soon.

Hear me out. At the moment we have the lowest levels of public trust in the government in history. People have lost faith in the government and many just flat out see them as the bad guy.

Now imagine in this climate letting the public know that the government killed Kennedy. Whatever little trust people have left in government would be flushed down the toilet.

If I were in charge of the documents that detail what actually happened to Kennedy I would insist that they be kept private until public opinion of government reached a positive tipping point. I would also insist that the information be made as broad and general as possible for fear of damaging the current reputations of important institutions: for example if the CiA had something to do with it I would not make that clear. I would say "a group of special officers who were connected to the government of which Kennedy presided conspired to have him killed".

In the end I think there will be significant reputational damage done when the truth is revealed, but if it's done at the right time and in the right way then the damage cam be as minimized as much as possible
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Yes lie more to keep the trust.
 
Dogshare said:
Trust in the government can't be there if you don't believe the government. So you are saying the government should not be honest so that more people will believe them? (assuming for the sake of this argument that they did kill him)
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Exactly. We all know the government lies to us all the time we don’t need to add this on right now!
 
Yorick said:
It was a coalition of evil intent between Sam Giancana, Fidel Castro and J. Edgar Hoover.
All three hated him for different reasons, all had the means to accomplish it and all
knew they had plausible deniability.
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it doesnt matter who wanted it
it matters who allowed it
 
@lsa killed him, it was lsa.

He also shot John Lennon.
 
I think the president didn´t allways know through the years about every CIA operation
 
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