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Haven’t been to the heavies in awhile, forgot how dumb a lot of the threads are
Who's "people"?People were literally saying that this fight was easy if Jones grappled. Ngannou out grappled Gane lol
Who said that? There were a couple wishful thinkers, most people said as soon as it was announced that a guy who got wrestlefucked by Ngannou has no chance against Jones. Most people even knew the exact gameplan the week it was announced.Funny how people only say this AFTER the fight. Because right before everyone was saying Jones couldn't handle someone Gane's size, only Ngannou could take Gane down because of his size.
I understand you're not actually saying literally everyone, but you can go back and look at my posts-- I don't think most people thought Gane had a chance against Jones. The biggest tell is the fact that Ngannou, an absolute novice grappler, kept taking Gane down. What we've seen time and time again is that you can be the greatest striker ever, but if you have the threat of a wrestler in front of you your ability is severely compromised. I think most people who saw Jones losing were counting on him having severe ring rust, and while Jon is a liar and a cheat, he's not lazy.Funny how people only say this AFTER the fight. Because right before everyone was saying Jones couldn't handle someone Gane's size, only Ngannou could take Gane down because of his size.
Funny how now Jones is bulked and ready for HW like he said he was and now no one can put a name he would lose to, only hypotheticals if you rewind time. Which btw he wouldn't have his LHW legacy and people will say he went to the division with less skill to dominate and ducked the more skilled fighters.Funny how I've literally been saying the guys I listed would beat Jones since 2014ish. Of course they're all old now
Since this fight was announced I've been saying it depends on what Jones decides to do. If he decided to strike Gane wins but like many many people said if he grapples its over for Gane
Jones dad bod and burned out look fooled us, mang. Looked slow in training camp and we assumed Cyril would come back from Dagestan looking like Marcin Tybura or something.
Even DC didn't anticipate this, no one really expected him to go out and dominate like that. At best they expected a crafty victory by the vet Jones.
Who said that? There were a couple wishful thinkers, most people said as soon as it was announced that a guy who got wrestlefucked by Ngannou has no chance against Jones. Most people even knew the exact gameplan the week it was announced.
There were some rumblings of this when Francis left but TBH this was the case as soon as Reem and Werdum aged out which was 2017ish
Both those guys and Stipe at the time would hand Jones losses
That was the last time for Jones to really test himself. He did the smart thing and did the Floyd strategy (never face anyone who poses a real threat).
Stipe now is old. It's not compelling at all.
2013/2014 Would've been the most compelling time for him to move.
JDS, Cain, Werdum, Reem, Mir, Arlovski, Stipe, Barnett were all still very good at the time.
Jones would not beat all those guys at that time.
He got taken down and submitted by the superior grappler.Jones won because Ganes dog didn't show up.
Ganes performance was one of the worst HW showings of all time.
I think he has good points.Great example of coping^
There were some rumblings of this when Francis left but TBH this was the case as soon as Reem and Werdum aged out which was 2017ish
Both those guys and Stipe at the time would hand Jones losses
That was the last time for Jones to really test himself. He did the smart thing and did the Floyd strategy (never face anyone who poses a real threat).
Stipe now is old. It's not compelling at all.
2013/2014 Would've been the most compelling time for him to move.
JDS, Cain, Werdum, Reem, Mir, Arlovski, Stipe, Barnett were all still very good at the time.
Jones would not beat all those guys at that time.
He got taken down and submitted by the superior grappler.
I concur.Jones won because Ganes dog didn't show up.
Ganes performance was one of the worst HW showings of all time.
you’re a casual. dead @ floyd never facing a real threat. dude has beaten almost every great fighter of his era.That was the last time for Jones to really test himself. He did the smart thing and did the Floyd strategy (never face anyone who poses a real threat).
He got taken down by one of the great grapplers in the history of the sport. It doesn’t mean you have zero wrestling when that happens. It means your wrestling isn’t as good.Yeah I known it was pathetic.. he had ZERO wrestling.. shocking performance.
Sometimes you come to fight and get choked out anyway..I concur.
Where was the guy that got flattened by Tai and came back to get the finish? Gane came TO the fight, but didn't come to FIGHT.
There were some rumblings of this when Francis left but TBH this was the case as soon as Reem and Werdum aged out which was 2017ish
Both those guys and Stipe at the time would hand Jones losses
That was the last time for Jones to really test himself. He did the smart thing and did the Floyd strategy (never face anyone who poses a real threat).
Stipe now is old. It's not compelling at all.
2013/2014 Would've been the most compelling time for him to move.
JDS, Cain, Werdum, Reem, Mir, Arlovski, Stipe, Barnett were all still very good at the time.
Jones would not beat all those guys at that time.