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Outside sales sounds like it's based on commission.
Base salary plus bonus commissions. Not all outside sales jobs run purely off commissions.
Outside sales sounds like it's based on commission.
Wow that is surprising. I remember I had a couple friends that wanted to get into firefighting, we're talking about 15 or so years ago. I remember hearing how hard it was to even get considered and then to actually get placed somewhere. If that is indeed the case across the board, what do you think caused? I would guess emphasis on qol but I'm just guessing, plenty of people still get into the medical field from what I can tell.I work as a firefighter and it’s insane how much the market has changed since I hired on 10 years ago.
When I first was applying places I would be applying against a hundred people for a spot or two. Now a days kids can pick and choose where they want to work when they get done with fire + medic. And my job is pretty good btw, my base salary is 85ish a year and great benefits. Last year i cleared 100k but I also work a decent amount of overtime, again due to lack of new hires.
Congrats man! A win for any one of us is reason to celebrateThanks sherbro. I got a small bump in pay, not quite what I was looking for but enough to shut me up for now. More importantly I got my 4 day work week! It's crazy how uncomfortable I was asking for things when I was younger, older me doesn't have that problem lol.
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Same. Had a tenement level apartment a couple years ago, and I was struggling hard. Even as cheap as I am. I rent a house with some friends now. Which is definitely why I'm debt free and own my car.If I didn't live with my sister I'd probably struggle but luckily I stay with her and we split everything
Even at 20/hr
Granted I'm always working 45 to 62 hrs a week
chickens coming home to roost my friend. I think are lack or wrong values is all culminating in all of this. Not just the work, the homeless, the addicted, the shootings, country is falling apart by the day.Talking to a friend this morning regarding a position she's trying to fill. Outside sales for an electronics company. Starting salary is 96k. No prior experience is necessary. Plus it includes potential bonuses and benefits. Its now been a month and she still hasnt found anyone even after 17 interviews.
She said most people would literally set appointments to meet with her then cancel claiming sickness or otherwise. The ones that do show up surprisingly come with demands and usually want a remote at home position even though it states they have to report back to the office and work from office when not on the road.
Some just bring a shitty initial attitude.
The ones with actual experience want more $$$.
Back in my youth, if someone offered me a damn near 6 figure starting position with benefits, even half that, I wouldnt have flinched.
You would think that with all thats happening, with costs of living sky high, that position would be gone in seconds.
I dont even know what to make of it tbh.
maybe they are just tired of the bullshit, maybe it isn't all laziness and entitlement although I'm sure that's the case too.I don't get where everyone went though. Did they just leave the work force? Seems its companies of all levels are having this issue but especially lower paying jobs
my stepdad got a firemans job, or rather, completed the training and was offered a job, said it was the hardest thing he ever did. I dunno, I don't question that but I would think that most of the time the real job doesn't involve any work, but when it does, it's everything that might make it hard.Wow that is surprising. I remember I had a couple friends that wanted to get into firefighting, we're talking about 15 or so years ago. I remember hearing how hard it was to even get considered and then to actually get placed somewhere. If that is indeed the case across the board, what do you think caused? I would guess emphasis on qol but I'm just guessing, plenty of people still get into the medical field from what I can tell.
The job market is fucked all over. Most candidates I see these days are immigrants that don't have the qualifications and can't communicate effectively due to the language barrier. The few candidates who are qualified and do speak the language either have a poor work history or they are an obvious HR issue. I had one young woman interview for a simple secretarial position and before I even had the chance to ask the first question she informed me she would only work 10am-4pm three days a week and we had to cover 100% of the medical costs of her 'support animal' which was an honestly very cute rabbit she brought with her. I explained the job was for 32 hours per week(Mon-Thurs 8am-4pm) and that was not negotiable. She freaked, started shouting and crying, I felt bad for her rabbit.
Prices are insane down here right nowSame. Had a tenement level apartment a couple years ago, and I was struggling hard. Even as cheap as I am. I rent a house with some friends now. Which is definitely why I'm debt free and own my car.
You'd think $19 working 50+ hours a week would be enough for a decent one bedroom apartment, but it really isn't.
Wow that is surprising. I remember I had a couple friends that wanted to get into firefighting, we're talking about 15 or so years ago. I remember hearing how hard it was to even get considered and then to actually get placed somewhere. If that is indeed the case across the board, what do you think caused? I would guess emphasis on qol but I'm just guessing, plenty of people still get into the medical field from what I can tell.
The fuck?? Which wholesaler a couple of the bigger ones are clients of my work maybe ill threaten to jump ship for a raise lolTalking to a friend this morning regarding a position she's trying to fill. Outside sales for an electronics company. Starting salary is 96k. No prior experience is necessary. Plus it includes potential bonuses and benefits. Its now been a month and she still hasnt found anyone even after 17 interviews.
She said most people would literally set appointments to meet with her then cancel claiming sickness or otherwise. The ones that do show up surprisingly come with demands and usually want a remote at home position even though it states they have to report back to the office and work from office when not on the road.
Some just bring a shitty initial attitude.
The ones with actual experience want more $$$.
Back in my youth, if someone offered me a damn near 6 figure starting position with benefits, even half that, I wouldnt have flinched.
You would think that with all thats happening, with costs of living sky high, that position would be gone in seconds.
I dont even know what to make of it tbh.
maybe they are just tired of the bullshit, maybe it isn't all laziness and entitlement although I'm sure that's the case too.
covid has changed the game, my guy. the next position i apply for i will just demand an insane amount of salary and they'll prolly come back with a lower number that they think is a lowball but will still be more than what im currently makingTalking to a friend this morning regarding a position she's trying to fill. Outside sales for an electronics company. Starting salary is 96k. No prior experience is necessary. Plus it includes potential bonuses and benefits. Its now been a month and she still hasnt found anyone even after 17 interviews.
She said most people would literally set appointments to meet with her then cancel claiming sickness or otherwise. The ones that do show up surprisingly come with demands and usually want a remote at home position even though it states they have to report back to the office and work from office when not on the road.
Some just bring a shitty initial attitude.
The ones with actual experience want more $$$.
Back in my youth, if someone offered me a damn near 6 figure starting position with benefits, even half that, I wouldnt have flinched.
You would think that with all thats happening, with costs of living sky high, that position would be gone in seconds.
I dont even know what to make of it tbh.
Sounds like she's the one not wanting to hire.Talking to a friend this morning regarding a position she's trying to fill. Outside sales for an electronics company. Starting salary is 96k. No prior experience is necessary. Plus it includes potential bonuses and benefits. Its now been a month and she still hasnt found anyone even after 17 interviews.
She said most people would literally set appointments to meet with her then cancel claiming sickness or otherwise. The ones that do show up surprisingly come with demands and usually want a remote at home position even though it states they have to report back to the office and work from office when not on the road.
Some just bring a shitty initial attitude.
The ones with actual experience want more $$$.
Back in my youth, if someone offered me a damn near 6 figure starting position with benefits, even half that, I wouldnt have flinched.
You would think that with all thats happening, with costs of living sky high, that position would be gone in seconds.
I dont even know what to make of it tbh.
Why Is rent like 8000 dollar a month lol$96,000 in Vancouver is not great.
Sounds like she's the one not wanting to hire.
Well no one should work for an unmotivated employer in the first place neither, acting like her offer is perfect.Well, no ones gonna hire an unmotivated person for a sales position.
If people don't want to work, how are they paying their bill?Lack Of People Wanting To Work