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I just can't help myself......first 'DastardlyMass' - you said:
karate= almost no hip, knee come up first followed by the shin to use the foot or instep in a more slapping motion like you see in the shiny pants pka fights with no follow thru.
You got proved wrong - infact I wasn't the only one that called you on your BS, infact I went so far as to show post a video of Kenji Midori using a follow through with his kick.
Now that you quite aptly got shown how wrong you were - after all the talk about 'Karate this Karate that' - you didn't even have the decency to humble down instead, as you have shown throughout this thread, when proved wrong you either reword what you originally posted to make yourself look better or move on to another point to argue in the hopes no-one sees that you have no idea what you're on about especially in regards to Karate ---- this time it's about flat footed roundhouses.
So let us mute you again - I wonder which topic you'll jump to next or how you'll reword your posts:
even in mas oyama essential karate book when it shows roundhouse the guys are flat footed. Andy hug did it too the greatest karate guy to ever fight
Why was his knee not torn apart? Was he some kind of alien with no acl and mcl?
Mas "the inventor" oyama round house flat footed
END OF DISCUSSION
First of all Andy Hug is not considered 'the greatest karate guy to ever fight' - that's your opinion. In knockdown karate there were guys on a completely different level to him - one that sticks out clear & above Hug - is Shokei Matsui. Infact if you asked anyone doing Kyokushin who they think the best Kyokushin karateka is - most people will respond with Akiyoshi Matsui because despite his rumoured character his technique is flawless as well as his skill.
As for the knee tearing apart - have a good look at that picture, did you completely ignore the fact that his standing leg has pivoted 90 degrees - indicating that he's used a good deal of hip - contrary to your 'karate uses almost no hip' comment - same for the Mas Oyama pic otherwise they would tear their ligaments.
Also for the 'flat footed' comment - Kyokushin uses both the flat foot or on the ball of the foot/toes - depends entirely on the situation - here have a look at this KO video and NOTICE HOW SOME OF THOSE KARATE GUYS ARE NOT FLAT FOOTED & ARE ON THE BALLS OF THEIR FEET WHEN THEY KICK:
Just in case you're blind - let me help you: @2.00mins, 2.15min, 2.20min, 3.05min, 3.53min etc etc - I don't want to have to keep hand-feeding you - it's there.
I'd like to see how you manoeuvre yourself out of this....
EDIT: The lesson here is you have very little knowledge, if any at all when it comes to Karate....even though you might think you do. Another one I forgot to pick up on but LEGS saw was your KK took kicks with the shin from MT - when they have existed in Karate from the beginning (KK took them from Goju-ryu) as well as checking which is also in all Okinawan Karate styles & which KK also took from Goju-ryu.
Why was his knee not torn apart? Was he some kind of alien with no acl and mcl?
