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even though I want the Sharks to win the series against the Knights, it's nice to see Fleury rebound with another team after getting kicked to the curb when Murray came back at Pitt.
Well, I did say I would expect a stronger positive correlation there. That doesn't mean there isn't still a positive one between total shots faced and total wins.
Because there is an invisible x there that represents games played, which gives more credence to your point. But, out of the five guys who played 65 + games (including 2 who played more) Andersen had +218, + 136, +175 and 163 -- and his ratio of GA's from there wasn't that bad comparatively.
I just think you're cherry picking individual stats here without a general framework for using them comparatively. What is the value of +218 shots compared to +175? How does it relate to wins? Why are these being presented together in the same paragraph?
For these stats to meaningfully support your claims about Andersen, you'd need to show that in general, total shots faced is a predictor of low total wins. But I think it's probably a predictor of higher total wins.
Now, on the other hand, I would expect something like Total Shots Faced > Total Shots Faced by Opposing Goalies to be generally correlated to a lower Winning Percentage of the first goalie. But that still doesn't mean Total Shots Faced isn't correlated to Total Wins.
polak was +3 -- phaneu...errr... i mean gardiner was -5. MINUS PHIVE!!!!
One game is one game. Gardiner sucked tonight
Overreacting over a playoff exit and making rash decisions is something stupid teams do. Like the Oilers
The players who sucked the majority of the 89 games are the ones who need to leave not the guy who sucked for the last one
i agree that polak has to go -- but he is much, much, much better in is 6th man role than jake is in his top 4. Gardiner had a terrible playoffs from game 1 to now -- he just saved his best crappiness for game 7
Just blatantly untrue tbh but I'm too tired after that shit show to bother arguing
Especially since I'm pissed at Jake and don't really feel like defending his dumb ass right now
I was actually hoping Kapanen would flourish in Toronto after he got traded. He's had some big moments, but nothing consistent.
Jake is an offensive generator, which is fine -- but leafs have that in spades in other forms. He is a - 66 giveway machine for the year and horrible own end metrics. Jake is completely expendable -- but i would love to hear any argument for the counter
He has all kinds of skill but he's not particularly bright. I'm actually surprised that Johnsson hasn't really made his mark yet. He was fantastic in Frölunda.
Preds in 5
Jets in 6
Kings in 5
Ducks in 6
Lightning in 6
Bruins in 7
Caps in 7
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Nashville in 5
Winnipeg in 6
Kangs in 7
Cucks in 6
TB in 5
Boston in 7
Washington in 5
Pittsburgh in 7, wonderful, wild games
We made it gentlemen! No more pretending we care about Buffalo-Montreal games, it's time for REAL hockey!
Post your predictions and lets get this ball rolling!
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v. Tampa in the Final.
Nashville gets it's heart broken again.