RBR ***Official*** Sherdog Sanctioned Fury vs Usyk Discussion 5/18 1PM ET DAZN PPV / ESPN+

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Fury vs. Usyk: Ring of Fire
Saturday 05.18.2024 at 01:00 PM ET
U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View
Promotion: Queensberry Promotions
Venue: Kingdom Arena
Location: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Enclosure: Ring
Matchmaker: Steve Furness
Boxing Bouts: 10

The undisputed heavyweight showdown is back on. Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk are set to meet on Saturday night in Saudi Arabia with all four recognized titles in the heavyweight division at stake. The fight was first set to take place in February, but a cut suffered by Fury in training camp delayed the matchup by three months. The teams have arrived in the Middle East ready to finally decide who the best heavyweight in the world truly is.

Both men enter the fight coming off scares in their 2023 campaigns, with Usyk being dropped by Daniel Dubois only for the referee to rule the shot a low blow and allow Usyk time to recover. He then stopped Dubois in Round 9.

Fury was forced into a much tougher spot in October when his undefeated record barely survived a fight with former UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou. Ngannou scored a knockdown and did enough to win plenty of rounds, though Fury ultimately took a split decision victory. While Fury's title was not on the line, a loss would have been even more embarrassing than narrowly escaping with a win in a fight he was expected to dominate.

The undercard also features a pair of title fights along with some more intriguing matchups that could set up title challengers later this year.


Main Card – PPV (ESPN+) / PPV (DAZN) – 12:00pm ET / 9:00am PT
Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk
Jai Opetaia vs. Mairis Briedis
Joe Cordina vs. Anthony Cacace
Sergey Kovalev vs. Robin Safar
Mark Chamberlain vs. Joshua Oluwaseun Wahab
Frank Sanchez vs. Agit Kabayel

Preliminary Card – YouTube – 10:00am ET / 7:00am PT
Daniel Lapin vs. Octavio Pudivitr
Moses Itauma vs. Ilja Mezencev
Isaac Lowe vs. Hasibullah Ahmadi
David Nyika vs. Michael Seitz

Odds:

Sportsbook: TBA

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[BoxerMaurits]

Stoked for this one!

 

[jeff7b9]

Anyone have a decent guess on when the actual main event will happen?

6 fight main card starting at noon...

I gotta assume there will be an hour of bullshit before the main event.
Fucking sing song hour concert time... right?

I see that Usyk is the pick on the other thread. 52/38 I think it was.

Interesting.

The way Usyk can win I think is volume. And with neither guy really being a one punch KO artist, I could see this going the distance.

I think Usyk would have won easy if they fought on the original date. But Fury seems to have gotten in much better shape. I think Fury needs to hurt Usyk to win... if Usyk can dance and box I don't think Tyson matches his output. But if Tyson can bully him, tire him, and rough him up, I can see him using his size to win, maybe even get the TKO.

Legitimately feels to me like a fight either man could win, which makes it fun.

May the outcome be DECISIVE.

 

[MMALOPEZ]

Christ …

 

[MMALOPEZ]

 

[Athenry04]

Fucking excited.

 

[kingmob6]

Tyson looks to be in very good shape. He is considerably slimmer than usual.

 

[BroRogan]

C'mon Tyson! @Arqueto @Chules @650lb Sumo

 

[650lb Sumo]

C'mon Tyson! @Arqueto @Chules @650lb Sumo

Fury will dominate this little Ukrainian rabbit. Best of his era.

Haters can hate all they want (and let's be real, part of that is due to his race and nationality), but he will definitely be in the GOAT HW conversation after this. Note that the last unified HW champion also represented the UK.

 

[bangalangin]

Fury going to weigh 270

 

[bangalangin]

Ok 262 nvm, Usyk coming in heavy 233.5 wonder if he can still move catlike??

 

[Culombo]

I think fury's got this .. perfect weight .. usyk fell for the 'gotta be heavier' tactic like wilder

 

[JC615]

Fury will dominate this little Ukrainian rabbit. Best of his era.

Haters can hate all they want (and let's be real, part of that is due to his race and nationality), but he will definitely be in the GOAT HW conversation after this. Note that the last unified HW champion also represented the UK.

Prime Ali, probably the version who destroyed Cleveland Williams is the GOAT and would wipe his ass with Fury. Shit, Fury isn't better than Lennox either for that matter.

 

[Mujeriego]

Fury will dominate this little Ukrainian rabbit. Best of his era.

Haters can hate all they want (and let's be real, part of that is due to his race and nationality), but he will definitely be in the GOAT HW conversation after this. Note that the last unified HW champion also represented the UK.

Its good to see some actual Tyson fans in here.

It was getting a little gay in here with the "Fury is a big meanie", bullshit.

 

[george14]

Usyk looks leaner here than he did against Dubois and AJ. His body is more defined compared to those weigh-ins.

I’m wondering if he is playing mind games with Fury and water loaded or has weights in his pockets. Surprised to see him 12 lbs heavier but looks better.

 

[Badr Hari]

Usyk looks leaner here than he did against Dubois and AJ. His body is more defined compared to those weigh-ins.

I’m wondering if he is playing mind games with Fury and water loaded or has weights in his pockets. Surprised to see him 12 lbs heavier but looks better.

he pressed the action against Dubois from the first second in his last fight, even making mistakes just to prove a point and get the stoppage. Guy is at the end of his career and that might be his style from now on. Press and kill or be killed. I mean he has been a pressure fighter even in the amateurs, but since moving to the pros has mixed his styles. Against Dubois it was all forward, wonder if that's the gameplan for tomorrow.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Prime Ali, probably the version who destroyed Cleveland Williams is the GOAT and would wipe his ass with Fury. Shit, Fury isn't better than Lennox either for that matter.

Prime vs Prime Fury vs Lewis would be very interesting. Fury would take Ali though. Things have moved on since the 70s. Ali and Usyk had/have the same reach by the way.

 

[Badr Hari]

Prime vs Prime Fury vs Lewis would be very interesting. Fury would take Ali though. Things have moved on since the 70s. Ali and Usyk had/have the same reach by the way.

Go back to sumo dumbass

 

[JC615]

Prime vs Prime Fury vs Lewis would be very interesting. Fury would take Ali though. Things have moved on since the 70s. Ali and Usyk had/have the same reach by the way.

70s? Shit, Ali was past his prime in the 70s. I'm referring to the 60s. Clearly you're trolling because no one in their right mind believes Fury "would take" Ali. I don't give a shit about reach either.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Go back to sumo dumbass

70s? Shit, Ali was past his prime in the 70s. I'm referring to the 60s. Clearly you're trolling because no one in their right mind believes Fury "would take" Ali. I don't give a shit about reach either.

I wouldn't usually respond to posts of this low calibre but they just illustrate the point I made earlier.

People dislike Fury because:

He's White.
He's British (yes I know he is an Irish Traveller by descent).
He's modern.

People just love Black American boxers from many decades ago. And it's not just Black Americans in their 60s who prefer them, I've known young White Brits who are like this. There's a massive bias in boxing fandom for some reason. There's something analoguous with the Pride-era HWs in MMA. People don't give the former Soviet HW boxers the credit they deserve either.

Apparently the oldest world athletic record standing is from 1983 (Jarmila Kratochvilova, women's 800 metres). The reality is that sport moves on, and I don't know if people are still getting bigger and healthier but they were until recently. [Edit: The population is growing too.] Unless it's a sport which is dying out, the standard rises over time. The best of the 60s and 70s would be out of their depth against the best of the 20s. People talk about the era being weaker now but the standard of the sport as a whole has probably never been higher. Unless you argue that the factor of people going into MMA instead of boxing is stronger than the improvement over time? But if so that's very recent too.

You can get as misty-eyed as you want about the past and find rationalisations to minimise the achievements of non-Black, non-American fighters, but the reality is Black, American HWs haven't dominated for a while, and Fury is not only huge, he is a brilliant boxer and absolutely in the best ever conversation. Check out the turning point around 2004, or earlier maybe, and face up to reality.

Not reality: I looked up the first result for 'Top 10 HW boxers ever' and here are their birth years:

Rocky Marciano: 1923
Tyson Fury: 1988
Joe Louis: 1914
George Foreman: 1949
Joe Frazier: 1944

Larry Holmes: 1949
Mike Tyson: 1966
Evander Holyfield: 1962
Lennox Lewis: 1965
Muhammad Ali: 1942



Fighters born 80+ years ago (if time travelled forward in their prime) would get smashed in today's world. Rocky Marciano weighed about 186lbs lol.