Elections President Trump…

Lol...Trump is going to absolutely wreck DeSantis in the debates.

What? Everyone is tired of Trump's "debate" style of just trying to interrupt nonstop and talk over his opponent. And the consensus was that Trump wrecked Sleepy Joe in the debates too, but that didn't matter at all when it came time to vote. The only thing anyone really remembered from the debates was that Trump was told "Will you just shut up, man?" by a walking corpse.

It honestly probably doesn't matter anyway. Trump has the party by the balls. He can lose them the election out of spite if they don't nominate him and they all know it.
 
And the consensus was that Trump wrecked Sleepy Joe in the debates too, but that didn't matter at all when it came time to vote.

? Most people thought Biden won the debates, especially the first one where Chris Wallace was on Biden's nuts, which frustrated Trump

First
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-won-debate-first-presidential-biden-trump/
Forty-eight percent said Biden won, while 41% thought Mr. Trump was the winner. Biden's margin here is not too different than his lead in national polls. Ten percent called the debate a tie.

Second
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/poll-final-presidential-debate-biden-trump-432052
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/cnn-poll-final-presidential-debate/index.html
 
Didn't want to create a new thread thought this was interesting an goes to show you who is the biggest propagandist is the US today. Beau talks about how 50 million was spent just on one issue children's LGBQ specifically children who seek to bisexual gender change. I think it should be up to the parents to decide how they handle their children's gender identity as much as parents seek to train children how to fire a gun. But Republicans using 50 million dollars their intent for 4800 children around the country who seek to have gender surgery again leave that to the parents but to radicalize a new group of people into believing the problem is vastly more wide spread then just 4800. Scare porn is the only way Republicans can get people out to vote in rural America because they have no solutions for creating new jobs, growing the economy, reducing our dependence on foreign oil specifically Saudi oil, technology training, lowing prescription prices, lowing the cost for people seeking to go into the trades like plumbing or electrical and technical training such as working with advanced UV chip manufacturing machines, working on complex testing procedures used in volume assembling of said chips. Instead all this effort is put into scaring people who likely did not understand how small the actual problem was to decide if it really is as bad as it was made out to be instead to be scared into thinking the gays are going to be moving into their area in droves.

How Charlies Koch has used some now believe as much as 480 million dollars in the last election cycle to push the real radical agenda on people for the sake to get the dumbest of the dumb MTG and Herschel Walker into key jobs within Congress and the senate who will do whatever issue they want to put as a priority front and center. There was one republican who put nearly a quarter of his multibillion dollar wealth around 1.2 billion dollars in this last election cycle and people talk about how radical Democrats are lol.





Oh just for facts not trillion dollar tax breaks.
1: Chips act to create jobs in areas that have suffered job loss as companies more jobs overseas.
2: Putting caps on specific drugs such as diabetic and cancer drugs.
3: I could go on an on.
 
What? Everyone is tired of Trump's "debate" style of just trying to interrupt nonstop and talk over his opponent. And the consensus was that Trump wrecked Sleepy Joe in the debates too, but that didn't matter at all when it came time to vote. The only thing anyone really remembered from the debates was that Trump was told "Will you just shut up, man?" by a walking corpse.

It honestly probably doesn't matter anyway. Trump has the party by the balls. He can lose them the election out of spite if they don't nominate him and they all know it.
? Most people thought Biden won the debates, especially the first one where Chris Wallace was on Biden's nuts, which frustrated Trump

First
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-won-debate-first-presidential-biden-trump/
Forty-eight percent said Biden won, while 41% thought Mr. Trump was the winner. Biden's margin here is not too different than his lead in national polls. Ten percent called the debate a tie.

Second
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/poll-final-presidential-debate-biden-trump-432052
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/cnn-poll-final-presidential-debate/index.html

Trump was way off his game and on the backfoot in those debates because he didn't feel like he could argue from a position of strength. They took place in the throes of the COVID lockdowns and everything he'd presided over from 2017-19 had been virtually flushed down the toilet in a matter of six months. There were absolutely no doubts being cast over the probability of his re-election at the time Kobe's helicopter crashed in January 2020.
 
? Most people thought Biden won the debates, especially the first one where Chris Wallace was on Biden's nuts, which frustrated Trump

First
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-won-debate-first-presidential-biden-trump/
Forty-eight percent said Biden won, while 41% thought Mr. Trump was the winner. Biden's margin here is not too different than his lead in national polls. Ten percent called the debate a tie.

Second
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/poll-final-presidential-debate-biden-trump-432052
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/cnn-poll-final-presidential-debate/index.html

Interesting, maybe my memory is failing me haha. Well that proves my point even more haha!
 
There were absolutely no doubts being cast over the probability of his re-election at the time Kobe's helicopter crashed in January 2020.

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I like Desantis but who else has the presence of Orange man? He's not even in office and the deranged left is still talking about him. Desantis should realize that Trump is not going away no matter what. If Desantis runs, it's going to split the party and give Dems the easy win.

Problem with the presence of Trump is it seems to inspire people to vote against him as much as it does to vote for him.
 
Trump falsely claims Pennsylvania court confirmed 2020 election was 'rigged'

"This claim is untrue," Amy Gulli, director of communications for the Pennsylvania Department of State, said of Trump's post. "The Pennsylvania Supreme Court did not rule that the 2020 presidential election was 'rigged.'"


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-falsely-claims-pennsylvania-court-182512401.html
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Rather amazing at just how blatantly he lies...and gets away with it.
 
Trump Has Decided Against Hiring Campaign Manager For 2024 Comeback Attempt

One day after Trump appeared bored at his 2024 kickoff announcement at Mar-a-Lago, the outlines of his 2024 White House campaign are coming into focus.

"Though former President Donald J. Trump has talked of a third run for the White House since before he completed his term, the rollout of his actual candidacy — as the Republican Party grapples with the fallout from midterm losses — has been surprisingly slapdash," The New York Times reported Wednesday. "Despite hosting about 500 people at his Mar-a-Lago home for his kickoff, the campaign did not take the opportunity to also hold a fund-raiser with them. And, behind the scenes, aides have been wrestling with Mr. Trump’s impulse for airing grievances, particularly over the 2020 election, in hopes of keeping him focused on the future."

Trump is reportedly having trouble assembling his campaign team.

"And while the small group of aides and advisers involved in Mr. Trump’s nascent campaign reflects a desire to stay lean, it also reflects how many former aides Mr. Trump has come to disdain — and, in some cases, vice versa," the newspaper reported. "The open and overlapping investigations into Mr. Trump have also chilled the desire of many political operatives to associate too closely with the former president, lest they face possible legal jeopardy themselves, a number of his former aides said — even though Mr. Trump pressed for an early announcement in part out of the belief that it could provide something of a shield against indictment."

The report said communications adviser Boris Epshteyn was likely to play a senior role, even as he provides legal advice to the former president.

Trump has yet to fill key positions and the campaign reportedly does not intend to hire the traditional top position.

"Major roles that have not been announced as filled include political director, communications director, lead pollster and data chief," The Times reported. "In his two previous campaigns, Mr. Trump went through a string of campaign managers. A decision was made not to have a formal campaign manager this time. Instead, two veteran political strategists will effectively split the duties of one: Susie Wiles, who has functioned as Mr. Trump’s top political adviser for two years, and Chris LaCivita, a former political director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee and adviser to numerous candidates, who has resigned as a partner at FP1 Strategies to join the Trump campaign, two people briefed on the matter said."

Key people who will not be involved in the campaign include Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner. Both worked in the White House as senior advisors. Former first lady Melania Trump is reportedly uninterested in joining her husband on the 2024 campaign trail.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-campaign-2658672474/

very stable genius move. like representing yourself in court.

translation: trump can't find anyone who is willing to be his campaign manager so he is pretending he never wanted one in the first place to save face. i guess he's having a hard time finding anybody who is willing to risk getting paid in hamberders at best, not getting paid in cash in all likelihood, and having their career killed at worst.
 
Problem with the presence of Trump is it seems to inspire people to vote against him as much as it does to vote for him.

despite our differences of opinions that there is a global cabal of elites that want to control us, I do agree with this over all statement. That being said, Trunp and the MAGA base are gradually winning Over minorities, which did show in this part election, despite horrifically disappointing numbers in the elections. *le sigh*, but the movement only gains momentum
 
Key Evangelical Figures Turn On Trump: 'He Used Us'

“Donald Trump can’t save America,” Mike Evans told The Washington Post. “He can’t even save himself.”

Evans was part of a group of evangelicals who met with Trump at the White House, and at one point gave him an award.
Now, he says he’s done with Trump.
“He used us to win the White House. We had to close our mouths and eyes when he said things that horrified us,” Evans told the newspaper. “I cannot do that anymore.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/key-evangelical-figures-turn-trump-092100813.html
 
Trump Has Decided Against Hiring Campaign Manager For 2024 Comeback Attempt

One day after Trump appeared bored at his 2024 kickoff announcement at Mar-a-Lago, the outlines of his 2024 White House campaign are coming into focus.

"Though former President Donald J. Trump has talked of a third run for the White House since before he completed his term, the rollout of his actual candidacy — as the Republican Party grapples with the fallout from midterm losses — has been surprisingly slapdash," The New York Times reported Wednesday. "Despite hosting about 500 people at his Mar-a-Lago home for his kickoff, the campaign did not take the opportunity to also hold a fund-raiser with them. And, behind the scenes, aides have been wrestling with Mr. Trump’s impulse for airing grievances, particularly over the 2020 election, in hopes of keeping him focused on the future."

Trump is reportedly having trouble assembling his campaign team.

"And while the small group of aides and advisers involved in Mr. Trump’s nascent campaign reflects a desire to stay lean, it also reflects how many former aides Mr. Trump has come to disdain — and, in some cases, vice versa," the newspaper reported. "The open and overlapping investigations into Mr. Trump have also chilled the desire of many political operatives to associate too closely with the former president, lest they face possible legal jeopardy themselves, a number of his former aides said — even though Mr. Trump pressed for an early announcement in part out of the belief that it could provide something of a shield against indictment."

The report said communications adviser Boris Epshteyn was likely to play a senior role, even as he provides legal advice to the former president.

Trump has yet to fill key positions and the campaign reportedly does not intend to hire the traditional top position.

"Major roles that have not been announced as filled include political director, communications director, lead pollster and data chief," The Times reported. "In his two previous campaigns, Mr. Trump went through a string of campaign managers. A decision was made not to have a formal campaign manager this time. Instead, two veteran political strategists will effectively split the duties of one: Susie Wiles, who has functioned as Mr. Trump’s top political adviser for two years, and Chris LaCivita, a former political director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee and adviser to numerous candidates, who has resigned as a partner at FP1 Strategies to join the Trump campaign, two people briefed on the matter said."

Key people who will not be involved in the campaign include Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner. Both worked in the White House as senior advisors. Former first lady Melania Trump is reportedly uninterested in joining her husband on the 2024 campaign trail.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-campaign-2658672474/

very stable genius move. like representing yourself in court.

translation: trump can't find anyone who is willing to be his campaign manager so he is pretending he never wanted one in the first place to save face. i guess he's having a hard time finding anybody who is willing to risk getting paid in hamberders at best, not getting paid in cash in all likelihood, and having their career killed at worst.

You may very well be the best copy and paster here on the Dog..
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Trump running (which everyone was pretty sure was going to happen), solidified his position of himself over party..his rubes (for the most part) see that now. He’s soured to the republicans that lean to center and even the righter side because if he cared for party he’d let desantis run.
That being said, I think people are missing his motivation for running,especially announcing this early and especially with the amount of chatter and public disdain from his own party to run.

indictment.
He’s hoping it will thwart the investigations into him..it’s no secret his lawyers and himself have angled this.
in a move that was widely perceived as a gambit to stave off a federal criminal indictment. It won’t work..legally it can’t work..it’s a Hail Mary that if he’s convicted and somehow wins the presidency he will be able to invoke executive powers and pardon himself.

the grift.
strike the steel while it’s hot…he still has rubes and cultist that will donate there money to him right now…if there’s one thing I’ll admit trump has expertly done, is separating his base from there money..it’s arguably the best business he’s ever ran, he won’t have gop support/money/legal fees so he knows he needs to get as much money as he can for the impending shit storm….

the desantis shit storm.
He has to run, this is trumps last chance to use executive power to grift/dodge indictments and convictions…he has no other choice. Desantis is the odds on favorite though which as we have already seen, will be trumps biggest target/threat to his presidential run. Desantis,imo won’t win against Biden but he will have a huge shot at doing it..it would be a neck and neck …trump will lose to any candidate possible.
He’s hated more then loved and his already shrinking base will dwindle the longer the charade goes on. He has nowhere to go from here other then down. Desantis will definitely run, he isn’t going to wait another six years to run,it would be a political suicide to sit idle for two years (second term in office ends)..especially with how much hype around him there is.. any one with a small amount of political logic knows ,hype translates to energetic voters which leads to favorable turn out…simply put it’s desantis’s time and he knows it.

the nuclear option.
Third party run..I absolutely believe he will run third party if the gop goes with desantis. I absolutely believe the gop is already angling desantis for a run. Trump will still go forward…. not because he thinks he can win but it is his last chance at the grift. He will be in his death throws and money from rubes will be the last avenue of benefit at that point. His family /wife want nothing to do with a third run because they as well as anyone with common sense see the inevitable…he’s a loser.
desantis winning and pardons trump is the only reason I could see trump backing down to desantis..it would be stupid of desantis not to pardon trump..it would solidify trumps base of voters to support him. We might see a trump bow out by which his health or some other excuse give his ego an out thats least embarrassing..but that’s bigly unlikely.

in summery, trump will lose any national election. Desantis has a good shot but trump will go scorched earth and bring down the gop with him. The gop lose in all ways here unless desantis wins.

what a shitshow the next two years will be. Get you popcorn.
 
Trump running (which everyone was pretty sure was going to happen), solidified his position of himself over party..his rubes (for the most part) see that now. He’s soured to the republicans that lean to center and even the righter side because if he cared for party he’d let desantis run.
That being said, I think people are missing his motivation for running,especially announcing this early and especially with the amount of chatter and public disdain from his own party to run.

indictment.
He’s hoping it will thwart the investigations into him..it’s no secret his lawyers and himself have angled this.
in a move that was widely perceived as a gambit to stave off a federal criminal indictment. It won’t work..legally it can’t work..it’s a Hail Mary that if he’s convicted and somehow wins the presidency he will be able to invoke executive powers and pardon himself.

the grift.
strike the steel while it’s hot…he still has rubes and cultist that will donate there money to him right now…if there’s one thing I’ll admit trump has expertly done, is separating his base from there money..it’s arguably the best business he’s ever ran, he won’t have gop support/money/legal fees so he knows he needs to get as much money as he can for the impending shit storm….

the desantis shit storm.
He has to run, this is trumps last chance to use executive power to grift/dodge indictments and convictions…he has no other choice. Desantis is the odds on favorite though which as we have already seen, will be trumps biggest target/threat to his presidential run. Desantis,imo won’t win against Biden but he will have a huge shot at doing it..it would be a neck and neck …trump will lose to any candidate possible.
He’s hated more then loved and his already shrinking base will dwindle the longer the charade goes on. He has nowhere to go from here other then down. Desantis will definitely run, he isn’t going to wait another six years to run,it would be a political suicide to sit idle for two years (second term in office ends)..especially with how much hype around him there is.. any one with a small amount of political logic knows ,hype translates to energetic voters which leads to favorable turn out…simply put it’s desantis’s time and he knows it.

the nuclear option.
Third party run..I absolutely believe he will run third party if the gop goes with desantis. I absolutely believe the gop is already angling desantis for a run. Trump will still go forward…. not because he thinks he can win but it is his last chance at the grift. He will be in his death throws and money from rubes will be the last avenue of benefit at that point. His family /wife want nothing to do with a third run because they as well as anyone with common sense see the inevitable…he’s a loser.
desantis winning and pardons trump is the only reason I could see trump backing down to desantis..it would be stupid of desantis not to pardon trump..it would solidify trumps base of voters to support him. We might see a trump bow out by which his health or some other excuse give his ego will need to give him an out that least embarrassing..but that’s bigly unlikely.

in summery, trump will lose any national election. Desantis has a good shot but trump will go scorched earth and bring down the gop with him. The gop lose in all ways here unless desantis wins.

what a shitshow the next two years will be. Get you popcorn.

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Problem with the presence of Trump is it seems to inspire people to vote against him as much as it does to vote for him.

If Trump is the nominee, the Republicans lose in 2024 and we'll get a repeat of how the election was stolen again. I couldn't agree with you more about inspiring people to vote against him. I've voted Republican most of my life, but now I'm an Independent. I can't stand the guy. I'd vote for a pile of Dog Shit over Trump. The majority of the country hates the guy. What sucks is most likely it will be a repeat Biden vs Trump in 2024. Both candidates suck and it's a disgrace that these two are the two best candidates selected to run for the Presidency.
 
I don't think I've ever seen a more savage burn of the US than Trump saying "I've proven to be one of the most honest and innocent people in our country".

One can just imagine the state of a place where that statement would be true.
 
This will get interesting with alt right Trump supporters. Many supporters of national pot legalization are really worried about comments Trump made towards illigal immigrants. They believe it will impact national legalization efforts.

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Where Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Stands On Marijuana
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Two years after losing his reelection bid to President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump announced on Tuesday that he’s making another run for the White House.

In a speech announcing his candidacy, Trump signaled that drug policy will be a focal point of his campaign—but not by advocating for reform. He talked about waging “war on the cartels” and working with Congress to pass legislation to impose the death penalty on “drug dealers” who are “responsible for death, carnage and crime.”

It’s not the first time that Trump has expressed interest in executing people over drug trafficking, as during his presidency he applauded counties that impose extreme penalties like capital punishment on people who sell drugs. But in the lead-up to launching his latest candidacy, he’s made it a frequent talking point, strongly leaning into the punitive drug policy in a way that’s alarmed civil rights advocates.


The former president’s political influence has come under question after Republicans underperformed expectations in the midterm elections that he involved himself in. But if he ultimately receives the GOP’s 2024 presidential nomination, he could again face President Joe Biden, who has not yet announced his candidacy for a second term.

As president, Trump did not pursue a full-scale crackdown of state-legal cannabis programs and he did voice tentative support for modest reform legislation, but his administration made a number of hostile anti-marijuana actions—from rescinding Obama-era guidance on cannabis prosecutions to implementing policies making immigrants ineligible for citizenship if they consume marijuana or work in the cannabis industry.

Put simply, the former president is a drug policy enigma. His past comments on drug policy, attitude toward state-level legalization efforts and administrative actions as president offer a dizzying portrait of a person who once said all drugs should be legal but who also appointed a vociferous anti-cannabis attorney general as one of his first acts in the White House.

On the one hand, he did not launch an all-out offensive on state-legal cannabis businesses and, in fact, said it was his administration’s policy that they could continue to operate unencumbered by the federal government despite prohibition remaining on the books. Trump also signed a bill federally legalizing hemp following decades of its prohibition. On the other hand, he declined to use his power to enact changes to legitimize the industry and appointed several officials who hold hostile views toward reform.
 
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