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I don't think there's anything hypocritical about about whites calling other whites names vs black people doing the same. That other poster was alleging that no one cares about abuse being thrown at white people. I said that he had a selective memory because whenever he or others call other white people soyboys or whatever, people express understanding at the abuse being directed at those white people and defend them against the abuse. That's not the irony, that's just his ignorance and selective memory.
Or, in mockery of him, maybe he didn't realize that the things he said were also abuse and so didn't realize that when people defend white people against him, they are defending white people from abuse. That's ironic - that he doesn't realize that he's the person doing the abuse and so he's blind to how white people are supported against him.
The other bit of irony is that he's making this allegation while referencing a book called "White Fragility". Complaining about a book called white fragility while demonstrating an extremely fragile ego on the matter.
I'm going to completely disagree with you here. It feels like an expectation for black Americans to show that their views fall within a certain subset of parameters? Who does it feel like that to? Because Black Americans have been having this exact same debate for decades and, to my understanding, while black conservatives have always been the minority position, we've never felt compelled to show our views in limited parameters.
Everywhere that black Americans discuss these things, you have this exact same divide. We've been having this discussion in barber shops and bbq's forever. As I said in my prior post, it's white conservatives who insist that the debate ostracizes one group. But as I've said to you in previous posts, its because those people never cared what black Americans were doing or talking about. They didn't care what they said or did about violence until the part about police reached the national stage.
And they didn't care about the internal black debates on these issues until they started wanting more black votes at the national level. Now, every black person who agrees with them is a martyr to those people because they didn't know that those black positions have always existed and were always the minority position. Not ostracized but not new either. New to white people, not new to black people. But for white people who didn't know there were black conservatives, they treat them like an endangered species who need special protection when we don't.
As I say over and over again when it comes to black America - just because mainstream America wasn't paying attention doesn't mean something wasn't happening.
In many ways, social media has really highlighted just how much black culture, thought, politics, etc. was operating in the shadows and just how little mainstream white America paid attention to it.
So...if the conversations were mostly happening in restaurants or barber shops etc that white people didn't go to, is it now that social media has given a public voice to people who just didn't have one before? Maybe "not caring" to a degree, but more just a lack of knowledge about what the black community was talking about among themselves? Another example of social media making mainstream media less important?