Sergei Pavlovich / Derrick Lewis Stoppage.... Good? Fair? Bad? Horrible?

[Bearknuckle]

As Culelabra found it. It's not always a sure thing that you are going to deceive one of the 2 guys in the cage with you.

Stupid games, stupid prizes.

But the reality was, lewis was not truly out of the fight.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Derrick Lewis is a respectable blue-collar fight jobber -- win or lose he fights often.

I believe that Dana appreciates him because Black Beast is doing his part to keep the HW Division churning -- pushing some fighters higher, whilst burying other fighters.

Early stoppage? Yes, but not by much.

Fights
2022: 2 0/2
2021: 3 2/1
2020: 2 2/0
2019: 2 1/1
2018: 4 3/1

 

[Joshuaace]

But the reality was, lewis was not truly out of the fight.

He was NEVER in the fight if he was back pedaling, then playing possum and assuming Turtle from standing; all while never being hit solid, according to you.

 

[avenue94]

Could you have possibly "whooshed" this more? You really can't get this extremely elementary concept?

So you don't have an answer to a simple question. Got it

 

[avenue94]

Again, he didnt fall face first, he did not face plant, he fell forward with his hands in front of his face to brace the fall.

Look at the angle from behind. Falling over forwards is falling face first in colloquial language

 

[Bearknuckle]

Look at the angle from behind. Falling over forwards is falling face first in colloquial language

Ok falling face first, not faceplanting.

 

[avenue94]

Ok falling face first, not faceplanting.

Which again, is a good way to get the ref to act in nearly every striking sport. What's your defining of intelligent defense even?

 

[Bearknuckle]

Which again, is a good way to get the ref to act in nearly every striking sport. What's your defining of intelligent defense even?

He didnt have a chance to “intelligently defend himself” because the fight was stopped the moment he fell forward.

 

[avenue94]

He didnt have a chance to “intelligently defend himself” because the fight was stopped the moment he fell forward.

How can you argue a stoppage was early or late it you can't even define intelligent defense? You don't seem to have a definition and I've asked multiple times

 

[Skitzo]

Again, he did not face plant

Again, it looked like he faceplanted.

 

[Midget Boxer]

Lewis was pretty close to being finished but early stoppage

 

[Midget Boxer]

It's stupid to stop fighters who are nearly finished. Nearly finished means they can still fight through it

Olivera vs chandler would have been a stoppage

 

[nately]

Early stoppage, but Lewis had a 99% chance of losing at that point. Still, the fans and the fighter deserve that 1% chance. Remember Barry vs Kongo, for instance.

 

[Namek]

He fell on his face, can't blame Dan for calling it. Looking back, it was likely early, as Lewis could have obviously kept fighting.

 

[mmafan559]

yeah wtf tan murgliotta

 

[HunterAcosta]

Hindsight ALWAYS 20/20. Lewis is the KING of HL reel kos. But he’s also the KING of HL reel ko flops on his end . He folds like Ric Flair. Ref saw a 280 ish lb man ( on fight night ) flop full on his Damn face with a monster bout to drop more deuces on him . Nah fuck all that. Don’t want to have ref stop fight ?! Don’t get clipped so hard you fall on your fucking face, face down .

 

[therealdope]

It was probably an early stoppage but:

(a) he was rocked
(b) if his way of playing possum is to get rocked and then turtle up, then he's got to know that the fight might get stopped.

For the sherdoggers who say, "you gotta know the fighter", that cuts both ways. Lewis has a history of bailing out of fights once he's been rocked with gif evidence ITT.

 

[Doughie99]

Whether or no the outcome changes is not the point. It was an early stoppage, we can’t tell the future.

its honestly just a flurry in a HW fight. Its possible that after that flurry, they both just start having the usual slow gassing HW kickboxing fight. Or a KO. Its unpredictable. The main point was derrick wasn’t out of the fight, the ref took him out of it.

I agree it was an early stoppage, yes.

 

[Mike]

Oh sure because its always the extreme other end of it or nothing, theres no middle ground or a good stoppage. Either it was good stoppage or its 100 soccer kicks to the head.
On a less sarcastic note: let me ask you. What fight do you think was an early stoppage. And lets compare…or do you think theres never been early stoppages in mma

Sure fights get stopped early all the time. What the problem is, is most of the time you can't tell in real time from the perspective of a ref if it's going to be early. We're looking at it as fans. Sometimes people can get rocked badly over and over and somehow miraculously recover, getting a comeback win in an amazing fight. Something like Frankie vs Maynard. And those are fun fights as a fan.

The thing is, the refs job isn't to make sure every fight is as fun to watch as possible. Their job is to stop it when it looks like one fighter can't recover and is about to take unnecessary damage. Fans get emotional and factor in things like the fighter's reputation for durability or recovery, entertainment, how high stakes the bout is, the experience of the fighters, even how much time is left in the round. They measure a bunch of stuff the ref isnt supposed to take into account, at all. And they do so using hindsight from how things went AFTER it was stopped.

Anyway there've been lots of early stoppages. Something like Kampmann vs Daley where he was rocked but still standing and moving is bad to me. A lot of stoppages look bad because the intervention of the ref stops further strikes from landing, or because someone wasn't as badly hurt as they appeared in real time. That isn't the ref's fault.

 

[Mike]

Incredibly dumb take. Also, it's "they're".

Oh no a typo on the internet!