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The Martian was a lot better than i thought it was going to be [...] and i liked how the NASA PR subplot pitched in.
Does Jeff Daniels at least have a big role in it?
Firstly, get well soon.
Next: I don't even know where to start with this hair-splitting nonsense. But as ALWAYS, I'll try. For you, only for you.
This is why I like you, Ricky. You're Mr. Detail. I'm like Kramer, I'm over here cutting slices so thin that I can't even see them. And that doesn't bother you. You can always go another round. And, for me, that's especially useful in the context of superhero stuff. Initially, in my response to you in my last mega post, I was more assertive, just straight up refuting your claim. But then I'm always wary in superhero territory. I know these movies pretty well now, but since the comic book mythologies are so fucking deep, I'm always worried I'm taking shit out of context or misunderstanding something. Usually, I just throw out the Bat Signal for @Dragonlordxxxxx and he comes in and tells me what's what. Before I posted my response to you, after I thought better of being so assertive in territory where I was far from an authority, I actually even did some Googling on the Avengers characters and saw that there's some controversy over whether Thor is actually a God or a demigod. In any event, you always sweat the details, so I figured before getting into any arguments I'd split a few hairs first and see where that'd take me, and I knew you'd be up for it
It's not about humanness or mortality, but fallibility as a creature with the ability to succeed, err, love or hate in equal measure. That's why he's made to run the full spectrum of emotion - love for his father, adoration for his mother, concern for his brother, and love with a cotdamn human.
Now this I can get on board with. Hair splitting FTW
It's why I like Phase 1. Yes, it's campy, and it's shot shitty, and it's smug and messy but it never forgets the good story shit. Sure I have to deal with logical leaps and Kat fucking Dennings, but at least it's working hard, making me care before threatening my allegiances.
I think I like Phase 1 more than you. And I definitely like Thor more. Thor is my favorite of all of the individual Marvel superhero movies, but I don't get campiness, smugness, or messiness from it. It wears its heart on its sleeve and its emotionality is raw and honest. That'll always get my respect.
And Kat fucking Dennings is actually pretty fucking good in those movies.
Phase 2 disregards all this good story shit. The point of my post was: Civil War wants to get to the catharsis by implying the good stuff without doing the hard yards. Cap saving Bucky? Because friendship. Spidey saves the day (and the movie)? Because billionaire needs help.
According to the Marvel Cinematic Universe Wiki (where I've spent a lot of time in recent months) Civil War is the first movie in Phase 3. To be as schematic as possible, the theme of Phase 1 seemed to be "get your shit together," with all of the individual superheroes accepting who they are and what they can/should do, while the theme of Phase 2 seemed to be "consequences," with all of the superheroes having to reflect on what being who they are and doing what they do means and the impact they have on the world(s) around them.
Based on your post here (and please correct me if I'm wrong), it seems like, as Phase 3 is kicking off, you're feeling that they're starting to take shit for granted and are operating under the mistaken notion that they've already put in enough character work to not have to waste time on that shit anymore, which is resulting in cheapened spectacles.
I haven't gone into Dragon's thread for the movie, but just for my own curiosity, is this something other people are noticing? I did confess to being disappointed in The Avengers 2. I would hate to think they're starting to slip now, just as I've finally come to embrace this cinematic universe
And no, it's nothing like your Fury Road nonsense.
(I'll hold back on the Vision stuff because it relates to a pivotal event in the film that probes the presence/absense and nature of his personhood.)
Fair enough.
Too lazy to go to the "Rate the last movie you saw" thread
Well so much the better, because you found a much cooler thread
Off the top of my head
Tired of talking about MMA with the plebs?