Styles make fights Francis is a bad matchup for Fury.

[Juzie]

This, mostly.

Part of was just people not recognizing that Ngannou got kind of lucky. People elevated the guy to boxing divinity practically, for landing one good shot and dropping Fury. Deontay Wilder dropped Fury 4 times. Steve Cunningham, a feather fisted cruiserweight ,put a good version of Fury on his ass. He got dropped earlier in his career by a complete nobody. At his best, he's never really been that hard to find. At his best, let alone the gross, sloppy version that Ngannou fought.

MMA fans basically scored their fight using PRIDE rules and fooled themselves.

Lets not forget something. He not only was 1-0 in knockdowns agaisnt Fury. He forced Fury into a clinching defensive dogfight which took the fight to a decision. The same dude who went in the ring with AJ and AJ pretty much just said to him...cmon mate you don't even know how to box.

Hard to look at Fury being on the same level as the top heavyweights like AJ/Usyk/Parker when he struggles with guys like Wilder, Wallin and even MMA fighters who are all whooping boys for these 3.

 

[Poatan Power]

You mean the fight where there was a takedown attempt and guillotine attempt? And a controversial decision? And where both fighter made bank but one wasn’t even in shape and looked drunk?

Yes nothing to see here folks just a great style matchup

 

[ForemanFan]

I think most hw boxers near Francis size would have taken the 1st right AJ floored Francis with in the 1st round. At 37yo, the chin isn't what it used to be.

I am sure a prime Holmes would took it well. And even the one of the second knock down also. He could be floored with that, but would get up and recovery for sure! Holmes has granite chin in is prime!

 

[PBAC]

When ever Fury has a bad performance he’s at his worst ,when Joshua has one he’s exposed . Lol

the problem with the Ruiz loss was that Ruiz has wealth of technical know how. It just displayed a limited level of boxing IQ in Joshua which is the counter opposite of what we expect from a lineal HW champ. He is learning on the job and more so than anything it just highlights how split and segregated boxing technique has become in different gyms, particularly different reasons. Ruiz, despite his build, looks like someone who could have fought in the 1990s, he's sharp and tactic. Joshua heavily relies on natural advantages ergo his response to Ruiz was to use his reach advantage. He did this against Helenius too but eventualy broke out. When he scored the KO it restored his confidence and brought it into the Wallin fight. He used it to take out an uninitiated fighter and when he won he displayed a far more subdued personality than his previous victories, and that one particular loss against Usyk.

Joshua seems to have extreme reactions to winning and losing and it notably upsets his game plan. Whether it's good or bad, that is whether he's adapting or running, is not certain but it's just that his reactions are so notably extreme it stands out more. At least Fury acts like a bell end in fight sets ups, shows humility after, and then goes back to acting like a bell end in the next fight. With Joshua it's difficult to gauge how he's going to react. He displays extreme lows and extreme high to such an extent you worry another loss would put him on suicide watch.

In general this is an uneven division. Fighters are coming from totally different backgrounds with completely different learning styles which have seperated from traditional training. They aren't, or haven't yet, learned to adapt or play off each other and seem to be clashing into each other like a dramatic game of rock paper scissors. We literally just watched Fury fall into the exact same trap he fell into in the Cunnigham fight years ago. Deontay has a no brainer of errors. Joshua just doesn't seem to have it together so every time he shows flaws it becomes more noticeable. Usyk is an exception but he seems immune from the exact critic boxing fans used to bombard David Haye with. Maybe he is an indication that like the Ruiz comparison he is a boxer boxing with boxers who don't know how to box.

 

[treelo]

why are you comparing Ngannou to Larry Homes

something seriously wrong with some people

 

[Rob Rain]

Styles make fights Francis is big, strong,powerful and durable. The second knockdown he got from AJ would have knocked out the majority of boxers. You think Wilder/fury would take that shot. The final shot that took out Francis would take out a horse

Fury is not that strong, not that physically imposing and is not that strong in the clinch and does not have tremendous power. This allows Francis to bully him in a way he could not do with Joshua.

AJ wouldn't get such a clean shot when fighting a top tier boxer. Francis was already dazed. I don't think anyone takes that shot, but most top tier boxers are not going to leave such an opening for such a shot in the first place.

 

[Gladiator24]

Furys gameplan was all wrong, and he clearly didn’t train properly for the fight.

 

[Gladiator24]

why are you comparing Ngannou to Larry Homes

something seriously wrong with some people

Exactly, everyone knows Ngannou is levels above

 

[Leon Edwards]

Furys gameplan was all wrong, and he clearly didn’t train properly for the fight.

Fury looked good

 

[Gladiator24]

Fury looked good

You must be joking, fury looked terrible, he was a fat slob in that fight

 

[Simple Southerner]

Stop posting you are p4p one of the weirdest, lamest thread starters on this whole site & that's saying alot.