Hm, you sound really angry and tensed up for some reason. I'm not here to argue nor am I here to say BL is God. It's obvious that if Tyson had even 70% conviction he would "tear the 120 lb actor" in half, he would wholeheartedly say so and he would say it the way you said it, but he didn't. What he means by "I don't know about that stuff" is obviously he is saying "I, Mike Tyson, am not sure if I can confidently beat even Bruce Lee even in my prime." Do you think there's any possibility that he could be speaking like that? If
Otherwise, it makes no sense. If Tyson really said "I love BL's philosophy, but I dont think he's a fighter" then he would SAY that right then and there, but no he didn't say that. He actually said BL was like an "MMA fighter, but for real." What does he mean by that? Basically, a fighter who does full range, full contact fighting and training, no rules and regulations, similar to MMA but NHB. If Tyson was saying BL wasn't a fighter and just an actor then he would say so. It wasn't just a "philosophy this and that."
Also, Bruce Lee does box. Why would you say he doesn't box when it's in the fighting system? I think that's kind of offensive and very demeaning to go around talking very condescendingly like that like anybody who does JKD and tries to protect Bruce Lee is a loser deluded, movie fantasy retard. I don't go around saying Muay Thai is shitty, slow, has no variations in kicks, poor hand techniques, overrated, watered down American versions, no broken rhythm, vulnerable to BJJ fighters, or anything like that. How would you feel if I said that--- you wouldn't like it, it's not true, and it sure as hell isn't respectful and honorable anything. I wouldn't say that because as a martial artist I don't believe in going around talking shit about other fighters and styles.
What he means by "I don't know about that stuff" is obviously he is saying "I, Mike Tyson, am not sure if I can confidently beat even Bruce Lee even in my prime."
What he means by I dont know about that stuff, is exaclty what he said. He does not know about that stuff.
If he was saying as you have interpreted it "I mike tyson am not sure if I can confidently beat even bruce lee in my prime" he would SAY that right then and there.
" What does he mean by that? Basically, a fighter who does full range, full contact fighting and training, no rules and regulations, similar to MMA but NHB.
if thats what tyson was saying he would have said that, right then and there.
Your putting words in his mouth and twisting and translating his statements into what you want them to be.
I never argued that bruce lee wasnt a fighter, if you re-read my first post you will find that I said he is a martial artist, he did compete in martial arts, and he has also been in fights
I havent down talked BL or JKD in anyway.
I did down talk his cult followers who think he can do all kinds of outlandish stuff.
talking very condescendingly like that like anybody who does JKD and tries to protect Bruce Lee is a loser deluded, movie fantasy retard.
I never said that, if I did you could add me to that list since I have read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, and watched as much footage as possible of bruce lee. Theres a difference between training JKD and liking BL vs being a delusional cult follower. I like Muay Thai, the greatest MT fighter in the world Saenchai, cannot beat up Shaquille O'Neal. The size difference is too great, I am not delusional enough in my MT cult following to think something ridiculous like that. There are however a ton of Bruce Lee fans that think this way.
Outside of his philosophy, concepts, speed, and strength for his size, how is Bruce Lee any different from Chuck Norris? They were both martial artists, both have competed, and both have fought. They even did movies together. Yet if I said something like chuck norris can beat up mike tyson, most people would think thats a ridiculous statement, but not so when it comes to the almighty bruce lee.
JKD and Bruce Lee lovers get upset when you talk realistically about JKD. Theres good stuff in every martial art JKD included, but it is not the most effective. MMA has shown what works and what does not, we do not see JKD in MMA much. Not that it cant be used in MMA or that there isnt anything good/effective to take from it. Now before you rant about how JKD isnt for MMA and its for "the streets bro" re-read your comments about bruce lee and MMA. and yeah sure it is designed for self defense, and there are good things to take from it for self defense, but how much of JKD would be illegal in MMA? not much, minus a few moves here and there. So there is alot of stuff in JKD that "could" be applied in MMA, yet it is not because it has been proven ineffective.
When i made my previous post I had a feeling you would confuse the boxing and of course you did. My statement of "Bruce Lee wasnt about boxing", was referring to the fact Tyson was a competitive/professional boxer, Bruce Lee was not.
yeah bruce lee uses boxing, and as we can see here by his chin up and hands down, his boxing skills were not the best.
and we can see how effective JKD is here, right down to Bruce Lees yellow outfit.
apply the bruce lee concept, take what is useful reject what is useless. most of MT is useful, most of JKD is useless. Dont take my word for it. go compete in a combat sport and see for yourself, you will learn quickly what you can retain from JKD and what you should disregard. If something is not tested, its effectiveness cannot be proven. Your buddy in the yellow pants tested his JKD, didnt go to well for him, some of it was effective, most of it was not.