There is literally no reason for monogamy

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I know It must be hard being raised in a single parent home mate but one day you will grow up and realise the only thing holding you back is you.

2 parent household. Parents are both married still after 30 yrs.

This is another conclusion people jump too. Call out gross female behavior he must not get any. Up pics of texts and conquests, must be some other female logic argument.

Monogamy seems retarded these days and marriage tying a loaded gun if the state to head when the stats already show the parade of free money women chase down after getting kids.

Again new girls are turning 18 everyday. #giddyup

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I'm not willing to bet 50% on anything. I don't care if it's Mother Teresa. Once you hit married life it's not unicorns and rainbows anymore. I'm much happier with the way things are now. Few girls on speed dial, no drama, have time to work 80 hours a week give or take. Going to buy a BMW cash the end of this year or early next year.. looking at the 335d or 335i.

Lol. The definition of Solipsism. Don't have anything else to add here. If it was me, I'd keep my perfect marriage to myself instead of ram it down everyone's throat... That's why I have speed dial.

Whatever gives you the big happy.

I recognize that I am natty avoidant. I see the value of social interaction and intimacy but I fail to see the point of staking my resources.

Guaranteed if single mom's and their bastard children are weeded out of existence and the gene pool, if the parade of free money came to an end, women would close their legs.

We take a "humanistic approach" and implement interventions to help. Instead it causes more stupidity.

If it's about survival of the fittest the bottom feeders are gone. Don't live on credit. Don't play into the game. The storm is coming and the parade of free money will end.

I won't mourn.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

@bigbangspiritbomb , So what is the long term solution? One day you will wake up and find yourself at 40 years old and those 18 year olds will find you rather creepy.

I played the game up to 30 and married a beauty of woman. All set to play Ricky and Lucy and make some babies. It turns out she wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and it gets challenging to run your life with a moron as the copilot.

I ran the course again for another 4 years between the ages of 36 to 40. There was still plenty of action to be had, but frankly, the talent pool had dropped off sharply. By your own word my market value was dropping. I would agree to the most part. That is if I held in value the same things I held in value as in the past when speaking of traits in me female partners.

As it turns out once I left the club scene (which I had not business in at that point in my life) I was able to meet a woman with the same goals. I found myself with a partner I can trust and build something with. It may be hard to believe but their are women like that out their. It's worthwhile finding one as it is nice to have someone who can bring you a bowl of hot soup when you're stuck in bed.

I would go as far as to recommend finding one sooner than later because you don't want to find yourself like me and missing out on having kids (assuming that is a wish). And kids should be raised in a home with two parents.

I have big respect for what you're saying. It's about time someone calls it for what's happening out there. But all women ain't hos.

 

[Brampton_Boy]

I hear what you're saying. At this point, I'm certain there was just the one dude. More context would be important to adequately show this of course, but it's a lot of unimportant details.

I understand it's a fools errand to give her another chance. Unfortunately I happen to be that fool.

Being single does kick ass, I have thrived, but I'd like to be in another serious relationship at this point in my life...definitely going against my intuition, and common sense, with this decision.



Ya, younger than me by ~4.5 years (I'm 31). Valid point, none of the mistakes she made indicate a show of love or respect. I realize it's a gamble that I'm favored to lose.





The relationship is definitely no longer what it was. I've matured a significant amount in my late 20's up until now, thank goodness, because I was doing a really good job of fucking around/fucking up between 18-26/27.

She was selfish, point blank. She was given every opportunity by me to keep it casual, retain independence and see if things could get serious, and if not then that would be ok..but both of us caught very real feelings very quickly (which is out of character for me). Unfortunately she wasn't mature enough to separate her feelings for me, her uncertainty about committing to something serious, and her feelings for this other guy, from the reality that she would have to take a chance we don't end up together by being honest with me.

Long story short, she chose to make me her "primary" in very real ways, but obscured her uncertainty and engaged in deception, ultimately cheating on me. I wasn't aware of this, obviously, until recently.

She's got to earn it back now. The onus is on her to prove everything, with grandiose gestures, a significant period of time and effort, etc. She no longer has the right to ambivalence. If she wants this, she has to go all in. Currently, we aren't in a relationship, because she wasn't acting like we were, so fuck that noise.

If what she says is congruent to what she does for a long enough period of time (no idea if I'll even get back to a trusting place) then we'll talk about getting back into a relationship. In the interim if she can't prove I'm the only person she wants to be with, all while knowing I have the right to field superior alternatives, then it's a wrap.

You and I are the same age, and honestly, I wish I could be as mature as your being .

I'm not going to judge the dynamics of your relationship or whether or not you can re-gain that trust. I suppose all that matters is if you think she's worth it.

It's always easiest to cut and run, but if you think there is something of substance there, even given the act of betrayal, then it is worth exploring.

I think what makes it a little bit easier to support your decision is that you have been around the block (to put it politely), so your not going to be blinded by oneitis. Most guys who stay in a relationship with infedelity do so because they are clingy and can't think they can do any better. This definitely isn't the case.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Why do people differentiate between " natural" and " unnatural " behavior so much? Every single thing we think and do as individual or a group is a product of your/our " natural" organic brain. We have a " natural " tendency to want to ensure the survival of the young as well as maintain order and stability amongst the herd , monogamy with all its failings is the best way to up the odds on that. Laws / traditions codifying that are the " natural " result of mankind's innate understanding of this .

Welfare state, free money ie government bailouts, alimony, child support ie sloot gonna sloot resources is absolute psycho.

As long as woman can use vag as a weapon to extract free resources, interventions in place to save damsel in distress, the madness will continue.


Read antifragile. War on drugs/poverty and interventions cause more problems than they fix. Welfare grows as do the population of single mom's since the inception of free money.

I am avoidant. The thought of being lassoed to a woman who could do me wrong but no wrong in public opinion or courts while loading the state with extraction of resources monthly or jail time where I could be raped (far too pretty for jail lol) is madness. Men still continue to pander to women.

Society is portrayed as monogamous. In reality it's a serial monogamous which is worse than polygamy. Bastard children out of wedlock. Cucks raising bastard kids. Some men with some whoore after botched SMV and decades of being a piñata.

It's gross. I opt out.


I am going to live it up. Not playing the game. Met girl years ago. Drunk dials recently. Years ago she said she's OK if never married + single mom. This is western women. Said woman is attractive. She is educated at masters level. Six figure income. Home owner but about carousel 2.0 when hot and thin. Hits late 20s now it's time to play house.

I will beat it up rotten but she's getting trolled if she thinks she is getting a ltr.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

@bigbangspiritbomb , So what is the long term solution? One day you will wake up and find yourself at 40 years old and those 18 year olds will find you rather creepy.

I played the game up to 30 and married a beauty of woman. All set to play Ricky and Lucy and make some babies. It turns out she wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and it gets challenging to run your life with a moron as the copilot.

I ran the course again for another 4 years between the ages of 36 to 40. There was still plenty of action to be had, but frankly, the talent pool had dropped off sharply. By your own word my market value was dropping. I would agree to the most part. That is if I held in value the same things I held in value as in the past when speaking of traits in me female partners.

As it turns out once I left the club scene (which I had not business in at that point in my life) I was able to meet a woman with the same goals. I found myself with a partner I can trust and build something with. It may be hard to believe but their are women like that out their. It's worthwhile finding one as it is nice to have someone who can bring you a bowl of hot soup when you're stuck in bed.

I would go as far as to recommend finding one sooner than later because you don't want to find yourself like me and missing out on having kids (assuming that is a wish). And kids should be raised in a home with two parents.

I have big respect for what you're saying. It's about time someone calls it for what's happening out there. But all women ain't hos.

It's the hardest thing to do.

Late 20s hurrrr! People are getting srs. Having kids. Playing the game. Following the beaten path. To each their own.

It's Friday night. You are single. You have a choice 1. Crank it on pornhub or 2. Go get girls

Pick your poison. It's not easy. Perma poon is nice to have but I rather be a go getter. It's only getting harder with age.

Read the long narrow road by I think Felix Dennis. As you age, mentor youth. Make friends. Younger dudes are ambitious. I talk to people. I friend dudes that lift do mma go to music festivals and get girls. I smash girls.

You don't want to go out? Your new buddy is he's 24 and he is banging the drum. It gets you out of durrr mode. Go skydiving. Travel the world.

Inspire. Be inspired.

If you have nobody seek out mentors yourself. I have awesome friends. I make new ones.

Read David Deida way of the superior man.

No man can give you the answer you seek. Ask yourself what resonates? What do you want of this life?

What if you don't marry or have a family (you will but... for argument sake), what will you do?

I have a vision. I am about my dream. If I never marry or have a family I will travel the world. I will hit on absurd amounts of girls. I will connect with people. I am starting a business.

If I never find anybody I lived for me not the status quo or somebody's idiology.

Find your life's path. Maybe a woman inspires me or you. Maybe not.

Keep banging the guns. Put yourself in uncomfortable challenging issues. Take up yoga or a meditation class, cooking. Break up mediocrity and routine. Break the ice. Get girls. Have choice.

It's not about my black belt or mma class, the 6pack or smashing that hawtttty.

It's failing at these minor things will bleed into other areas of my life. If I fail there I will fail at my larger dreams.

We will leave this world one day. Live at your edge. Go down on your shield. Leave no stone unturned.

Best of luck

 

[sub_thug]

I DISAGREE. I have to say as a confident outgoing man that practices free thinking and self actualization; being the strongest version of myself, I challenge myself and the status quo. I lift. A 6pack is hardly a deal breaker. Fairly attractive guy. I read tons. I eat good.

I am going places. I won't supplication or pander to women. I can break the ice. I make moves. I plant my flag in this life.

I exchange the olive branch to women (note pleural; not singular; poly ftw). Come with or don't. Fuck not given. Next girl. New hotter girls turning 18/19/29/21....!
Shaming language or manipulation won't change me. I won't apologize to anybody.

Put into perspective girl 18 today. Man 27. In a decade he is 37 she is 28.


Anywho... Big ups my man. Good luck in your endeavors. I enjoy the chat.

I respect the hell out of not being held back by a woman. Or anyone, really. We all have things that we are supposed to do in this life, and it's too short to be letting someone prevent us from doing it. We should find the people who will help raise us up, not the people who will drag us down.

You 27? I got a few years on you if so. My only advice is remember that as you get older, you're going to change too. Just don't prevent future possibilities by painting yourself into a corner now. Just an older man offering a perspective.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

@bigbangspiritbomb
You speak like a warrior, which is meant as a compliment. 20 years ago I had the same piss and vinegar in my veins. Hell, 10 years ago I still hadn't given up the fight (50 years young BTW).

The battle for the ladies is one I have left behind. For me it's about earning coin and enjoying my hobbies. Having a wife facilitates those goals. Nothing quite like a stable home base to start from. Groceries in the fridge and clean sheets on the bed type stuff. It's a lot easier to accomplish that stable home base when you have two working for it.

I think this is where most people are missing the lesson. Your wife isn't that hot chick who rocked your world in bed. That is the pin cushion Bigbang is going off about. Your wife (or partner; respect to life-long same sex partners) is the person who conducts their life in the same fashion as you do. My wife and I hate a dirty house, we eat healthy/ good food, and enjoy a finely furnished home. It is pretty mundane stuff. But that is what the bulk of life is, mundane stuff.

Anyway. BigBang keep preaching. I like what you have to say.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

I respect the hell out of not being held back by a woman. Or anyone, really. We all have things that we are supposed to do in this life, and it's too short to be letting someone prevent us from doing it. We should find the people who will help raise us up, not the people who will drag us down.

You 27? I got a few years on you if so. My only advice is remember that as you get older, you're going to change too. Just don't prevent future possibilities by painting yourself into a corner now. Just an older man offering a perspective.

I'd like to add something to the being held back by a woman.
Be careful where you draw the line of being held back as compared to responsibility and obligation. Most of us have some things that have first dibs on our time. Many of us have items that occupy 2nd, 3rd and 4th positions as well. Sometimes the obligation surrounding your spouse and house can get mislabeled as being held back by your wife. Like, I'd much prefer if my wife would go to Whole Food herself on Sunday so I can run. But I eat the food too and the flights of stairs are hard with the heavy bags of groceries.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I love how everyone on here is so convinced, no matter what the subject, that they are fucking experts. I offered an opinion on this, but there is no way I'm arguing with anyone about whether or not I'm right because I'm not a fucking biologist. And I would bet most people here aren't either. I would venture a guess that the only thing most people on sherdog have expert knowledge about is custodial engineering.

 

[FyrFytr998]

@bigbangspiritbomb
You speak like a warrior, which is meant as a compliment. 20 years ago I had the same piss and vinegar in my veins. Hell, 10 years ago I still hadn't given up the fight (50 years young BTW).

The battle for the ladies is one I have left behind. For me it's about earning coin and enjoying my hobbies. Having a wife facilitates those goals. Nothing quite like a stable home base to start from. Groceries in the fridge and clean sheets on the bed type stuff. It's a lot easier to accomplish that stable home base when you have two working for it.

I think this is where most people are missing the lesson. Your wife isn't that hot chick who rocked your world in bed. That is the pin cushion Bigbang is going off about. Your wife (or partner; respect to life-long same sex partners) is the person who conducts their life in the same fashion as you do. My wife and I hate a dirty house, we eat healthy/ good food, and enjoy a finely furnished home. It is pretty mundane stuff. But that is what the bulk of life is, mundane stuff.

Anyway. BigBang keep preaching. I like what you have to say.

44 and feeling the same.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

44 and feeling the same.

About 40 I was getting tired of the chase. All of the dead end dates, the expenditure of money, and the sleepless nights was taking its toll. So I eased back. No more Wednesday night hook up with a broad from Match. This screwed up my job on Thursday. And my job pays my mortgage, my dick doesn't.
I started spending more time with friends and enjoy the the things I naturally enjoy doing. I became happier once I was out of the chase. And then I met my current wife. I'm not says this was love at first sight. It took a lot of work. But both of us realized that we offered the other the stable and reliable partner the other wanted. She tries me at times and I miss being able to disappear without announcement but the net is an improvement in my life.

 

[Eazy123]

Good Lord, I think I may just have turned a little beta from reading that whiny first post.

 

[Kframe]

Avoiding STDs and Children ending up with Fathers who will take care of them. Those two alone are pretty vital for our species

Only a CUCK, who is a weak ass beta, will take care of someone elses child. I will never take care of the product of some other mans DNA. Let the single moms find a beta who is ok with sloppy seconds.. Alpha's don't raise other dudes kids..

 

[HHJ]

I don't know I know a couple guys trying it out this way and it usually ends up with the dudes getting much less action the girl. Hell one guy I know is a serious career type with good game and lots of money and he still ends up being the third wheel or second handle bar most of the time.

I dont know a way that works for everyone,but i dont blame people for giving it the old college try. I dont think desiring another woman makes you a bad person.

 

[Harmonica]

You just gotta love the old "All women are whores" attitude. Having no empirical evidence is a normal thing since it's circumstantial, but one simply cannot ignore logical evidence. To all those ignoramuses, I recommend a study of this little thing called inductive reasoning. Spoiler: just because all the swans you have seen are white, it doesn't mean that all the swans on the planet are white. Yeah, I know...a shocking discovery.

Whenever I hear someone say "All (wo)men are cheaters!", all I can hear is "I am a cheater". Why is that the case? Because a person who's faithful would never say such a thing, being that his/her own existence refutes this pathetic categorical claim. Like attracts like. Mediocre people attract mediocre people. The only difference between them and their betters is that they can't comprehend the fact that there is something better than them out there, whereas their betters are fully aware that there are tons of worse people about.

I am now open to theories of how my woman is actually cheating me behind my back. After all, it's not like I know her better than some random internet guy. She's a whore and he has probably already been with her and it's his child that I am raising.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

You just gotta love the old "All women are whores" attitude. Having no empirical evidence is a normal thing since it's circumstantial, but one simply cannot ignore logical evidence. To all those ignoramuses, I recommend a study of this little thing called inductive reasoning. Spoiler: just because all the swans you have seen are white, it doesn't mean that all the swans on the planet are white. Yeah, I know...a shocking discovery.

Whenever I hear someone say "All (wo)men are cheaters!", all I can hear is "I am a cheater". Why is that the case? Because a person who's faithful would never say such a thing, being that his/her own existence refutes this pathetic categorical claim. Like attracts like. Mediocre people attract mediocre people. The only difference between them and their betters is that they can't comprehend the fact that there is something better than them out there, whereas their betters are fully aware that there are tons of worse people about.

I am now open to theories of how my woman is actually cheating me behind my back. After all, it's not like I know her better than some random internet guy. She's a whore and he has probably already been with her and it's his child that I am raising.

I'm bangin' your girl as I type this.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I respect the hell out of not being held back by a woman. Or anyone, really. We all have things that we are supposed to do in this life, and it's too short to be letting someone prevent us from doing it. We should find the people who will help raise us up, not the people who will drag us down.

You 27? I got a few years on you if so. My only advice is remember that as you get older, you're going to change too. Just don't prevent future possibilities by painting yourself into a corner now. Just an older man offering a perspective.

For sure dude.

The voice mail is drunk dials. Texts are coming in. The options are available but the fact being as they are. The system sucks. If fallout occurs it's a nightmare.

I am open to dating casually. I see no value in my being married or common law living. Own my house. No live in wife or gf. Nonsense and female logic free zone. Zero tolerance policy.

I definitely appreciate the discussion and words of advice. I am having fun man. I hope you are too

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

@bigbangspiritbomb
You speak like a warrior, which is meant as a compliment. 20 years ago I had the same piss and vinegar in my veins. Hell, 10 years ago I still hadn't given up the fight (50 years young BTW).

The battle for the ladies is one I have left behind. For me it's about earning coin and enjoying my hobbies. Having a wife facilitates those goals. Nothing quite like a stable home base to start from. Groceries in the fridge and clean sheets on the bed type stuff. It's a lot easier to accomplish that stable home base when you have two working for it.

I think this is where most people are missing the lesson. Your wife isn't that hot chick who rocked your world in bed. That is the pin cushion Bigbang is going off about. Your wife (or partner; respect to life-long same sex partners) is the person who conducts their life in the same fashion as you do. My wife and I hate a dirty house, we eat healthy/ good food, and enjoy a finely furnished home. It is pretty mundane stuff. But that is what the bulk of life is, mundane stuff.

Anyway. BigBang keep preaching. I like what you have to say.

I like the banter. I ike the discussion. I enjoy reading and free thinking even with those with contrasting ideas or opinions. I definitely don't have the luge experience you have. I thought maybe you were saying that you are alone and older; to reconsider my life Path.

Sex apeal Will diminish over time. I get it. I enjoy the pursuit. Many a times the conquest or pursuit of a conquest was better than the actual experience. Other times, up close it's not what I thought it be however I always refer to find out.

Single life is utter disarray. It's not got the a woman's touch. It's man cave. It's fine dining cause I enjoy it. Luxury and lifestyle. I am too selfish for monogamy. Maybe pushing middle age I may view life through a different lens. I like the lack of predictability. I enjoy the late night randomness or some girl drink dialing and texting.

I embrace the butterfly effect, chaos theory, and just absurdity. I want to escape mundanity and mediocrity. I rather March to the beat of my own drum and plant my flag wherever I go.

I cringe hearing happy wife happy life. I won't pander or supplicate ever. I just have a path in life one I refuse to detour from because a woman wants to play homemaker years after piñatas treatment. Netflix & chill. Nothing srs

 

[Pixelated Porn]

2 parent household. Parents are both married still after 30 yrs.

This is another conclusion people jump too. Call out gross female behavior he must not get any. Up pics of texts and conquests, must be some other female logic argument.

Monogamy seems retarded these days and marriage tying a loaded gun if the state to head when the stats already show the parade of free money women chase down after getting kids.

Again new girls are turning 18 everyday. #giddyup

If all your roommates are bad, you are the bad roommate - Sarah Silverman