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Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by EatMyShorts, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. cincymma79 Black Belt

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    Take them and lay on the couch then. You still have to do the work and they just make it easier or rather improve your recovery and capacity which in turn makes it easier
     
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  2. Sano Brown Belt

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    Why are you being so defensive? No one is saying anything about laying on the couch. Obviously you have to train to improve, but so what? With that said, keep in mind that there is evidence to suggest that talking test will even increase strength and muscle mass in certain muscles, to a higher degree, in people that don't train vs people that do. It's hard to gather anything conclusive though, it seems to be individualised how a person responds.

    Again, anabolics do much more than just improve recovery. More myosatellite cells, increased protein synthesis, better ATP production, improves mitochondrial enzyme function, adds more myonuclei and induce hypertrophy in muscle fibers. Basicly, you gain mass, strength AND you improve your recovery.
     
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  3. cincymma79 Black Belt

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    Sure My point was that they improve your ability to do work. I don’t even know what we’re arguing about.
     
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  4. Twelve75 Red Belt

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    you sound like a proper nobhead.....
     
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    If I gave a fuck about other people lifting more than me, I'd never go to the gym. Or log on here.

    Unless you're training for a Meet, the only person you're competing with is yourself. Who gives a fuck if other people are natty or taking more gear than Prime Piana(Gains In Peace)? Just train to the best of your abilities.

    Getting out-lifted by roiders doesn't make you inferior. Whinging about them does.
     
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  6. deadshot138 Brown Belt

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    Gunning for my state records in the squat, bench and deadlifts, 707 diddly, 770 squat and 510 bench. These achievable natty or should I hop on the juice?
     
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  7. cincymma79 Black Belt

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    At what body weight
     
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  8. selfcritical Brown Belt

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    There is significant evidence that even if you don't do work, or do minimal amounts of work, they will increase your strength over baseline. This effect is of course dose dependent, but both recovery AND training response are increased, and if your dosage is good enough you could sit on your ass and be as strong as you would be at the end of a novice progression. You could also do singificantly less work than others and still see good results.
     
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  9. deadshot138 Brown Belt

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    Fully clothed with jacket, phone, wallet and shoes...338lbs
     
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  10. cincymma79 Black Belt

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    Oh. Well then yes it’s possible natural
     
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  11. deadshot138 Brown Belt

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    Yeah I’m Within 100lbs of the deadlift and bench and 150 of the squat......150 of the squat :eek:
     
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    I know a guy who doesn’t take anything and has pulled 8ish. Squatted around 7. His bench was not great though. Think he got up to 425 before he got sick.
     
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    You sound..........angry.
    Almost in a ........rage ?
     
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  14. 4daLuLZ Green Belt

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    You didn't have put that disclaimer. I guessed from your overly defensive post.
    Don't be so angry, bro.
    It's only chemical.
    You're a good person.


    <{outtahere}>
     
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    And we have a winner, folks !
     
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  16. corpse Orange Belt

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    i once read on another board that benching 405 is not possible natural. is this true? serious question.
     
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    Not even remotely close to true.
     
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    EatMyShorts the only problem you have is your mindset. You should do some introspection to figure out why you're feeling inadequate.

    There's also almost no chance you'd look like the guy in the picture even if you were to start taking steroids. A lot of factors go into looking that way so you're showing a lot ignorance on the subject.

    Steroids have never been my thing however it never bothered me when others chose to use them, similar to people's decision to use pot.
     
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  19. corpse Orange Belt

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    thanks
     
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  20. CUAPO White Belt

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    If you go to the gym to compete in looks and benchpress and feel some type of way when see someone lifts more than you there's something wrong with your thinking. It's their choice if they want to juice the fuck out as much as yours', you two just made different choices. Go to gym to exercise and do it for yourself ego is a bitch.
     
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