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How will both sage and zac approach this with regards grappling?
How has sage looked better at tam? Beat a bum then lost to gouti at 155 and got a gift dec for leg humping. Ottows best opponent hes faced outside of barb
Most people here are on Ottow because he is the dog, if Sage would have +odds than everyone would bet himMost people here are on Ottow but I'm leaning Sage as well, at least for now. I'm going to get deeper into tape the next couple days before I decide but I just watched both their last couple fights and I got to say I'm liking Sage in this one. Sage lost both his previous fights at 170 though, so that's a bit of a concern.
His last fight against Gouti he was with TAM and he lost that fight IMO. Still I think at his age he could make massive improvements in between fights from being at a good camp and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out looking much better this time.Most people here are on Ottow because he is the dog, if Sage would have +odds than everyone would bet him
His fights at 170 were on shitty camps (except Tristar but he didnt finish the fight camp there )
just looks bombed out and depleted.
sage walking around 185-190, ottow cuts from 200+. ottow is also a black belt, sage definitely isn't.
Pretape I favored Sage too . Watch his last fight against GoutiPre-tape I favor Sage.
I do not think very highly of Zak Ottow.
i would agree Ottow will have the grappling advantage.I know the co-owner of Ottow's gym (Pura Vida in Milwaukee). Name is Jake, I don't know him well but my brother in law knows him fairly well. Zak is legit on the mat, better than people realize I think. Sage obviously is gonna be more explosive, better fast twitch, etc. but Zak will not only technically be much better but he'll probably be physically stronger.
All of this might not be a big deal except that Sage so often willingly engages in grappling scrambles. If he does it here (and good chance he will based on history) I think Zak will get the better of the grappling for sure.
Pretape I favored Sage too . Watch his last fight against Gouti
Isnt Ivanov a sambo expert too?
Odds aside, I lean towards Ottow winning anyway so at a -110 and -110 pick 'em I would choose Zak with a gun to my head. Give me +130 on the well rounded career welterweight against the lightweight flashy striker who hasn't knocked out anyone at 170 pounds in the UFC and who doesn't look great off of his back and that's a few unit bet for me.Most people here are on Ottow because he is the dog, if Sage would have +odds than everyone would bet him
His fights at 170 were on shitty camps (except Tristar but he didnt finish the fight camp there )
Odds aside, I lean towards Ottow winning anyway so at a -110 and -110 pick 'em I would choose Zak with a gun to my head. Give me +130 on the well rounded career welterweight against the lightweight flashy striker who hasn't knocked out anyone at 170 pounds in the UFC and who doesn't look great off of his back and that's a few unit bet for me.
I'd be a little surprised if it went that high but I'll be tempted to add more if it does.i honestly wouldn't be surprised if we see ottow at +150 or so based on sage's name value.