Ultimate 80's Memories Thread - Part 2 - The 80s Strikes Back

Tiananmen massacre
The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, commonly known in mainland China as the June Fourth Incident (六四事件), were student-led demonstrations in Beijing, the capital of the People's Republic of China, in 1989. More broadly, it refers to the popular national movement inspired by the Beijing protests during that period, sometimes called the '89 Democracy Movement (八九民运). The protests were forcibly suppressed after the government declared martial law. In what became known in the West as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, troops with automatic rifles and tanks killed at least several hundred demonstrators trying to block the military's advance towards Tiananmen Square. The number of civilian deaths has been estimated variously from 180 to 10,454.[2][5]

Set against a backdrop of rapid economic development and social changes in post-Mao China, the protests reflected anxieties about the country's future in the popular consciousness and among the political elite. The reforms of the 1980s had led to a nascent market economy which benefitted some people but seriously disaffected others; the one-party political system also faced a challenge of legitimacy. Common grievances at the time included inflation, limited preparedness of graduates for the new economy, and restrictions on political participation. The students called for democracy, greater accountability, freedom of the press, and freedom of speech, though they were loosely organized and their goals varied.[6][7] At the height of the protests, about a million people assembled in the Square.[8]

As the protests developed, the authorities veered back and forth between conciliatory and hardline tactics, exposing deep divisions within the party leadership.[9] By May, a student-led hunger strike galvanized support for the demonstrators around the country and the protests spread to some 400 cities.[10] Ultimately, China's paramount leader Deng Xiaoping and other Communist Party elders believed the protests to be a political threat, and resolved to use force.[11][12] Communist Party authorities declared martial law on May 20, and mobilized as many as 300,000 troops to Beijing.[10] The troops ruthlessly suppressed the protests by firing at demonstrators with automatic weapons, killing hundreds of protesters and leading to mass civil unrest in the days following.

The Chinese government was condemned internationally for the use of force against the protestors. Western countries imposed economic sanctions and arms embargoes.[13] China's government initially condemned the protests as a counter-revolutionary riot, and criticized other nations.[14][15] It made widespread arrests of protesters and their supporters, suppressed other protests around China, expelled foreign journalists, strictly controlled coverage of the events in the domestic press, strengthened the police and internal security forces, and demoted or purged officials it deemed sympathetic to the protests.[16] More broadly, the suppression temporarily halted the policies of liberalization in the 1980s. Considered a watershed event, the protests also set the limits on political expression in China well into the 21st century. Its memory is widely associated with questioning the legitimacy of Communist Party rule, and remains one of the most sensitive and most widely censored political topics in mainland China.[17][18]



The Fall of communism...


 
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Loma Prieta earthquake
The 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake occurred in Northern California on October 17 at 5:04 p.m. local time (1989-10-18 00:04 UTC). The shock was centered in The Forest of Nisene Marks State Park approximately 10 mi (16 km) northeast of Santa Cruz on a section of the San Andreas Fault System and was named for the nearby Loma Prieta Peak in the Santa Cruz Mountains. With a moment magnitude of 6.9 and a maximum Mercalli intensity of IX (Violent), the shock was responsible for 63 deaths and 3,757 injuries. The Loma Prieta segment of the San Andreas Fault System had been relatively inactive since the 1906 San Francisco earthquake (to the degree that it was designated a seismic gap) until two moderate foreshocks occurred in June 1988 and again in August 1989.

Damage was heavy in Santa Cruz County and less so to the south in Monterey County, but effects extended well to the north into the San Francisco Bay Area, both on the San Francisco Peninsula and across the bay in Oakland. No surface faulting occurred, though a large number of other ground failures and landslides were present, especially in the Summit area of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Liquefaction was also a significant issue, especially in the heavily damaged Marina District of San Francisco, but its effects were also seen in the East Bay, and near the shore of Monterey Bay, where a non-destructive tsunami was also observed.

Due to the sports coverage of the 1989 World Series, it became the first major earthquake in the United States that was broadcast live on national television (and is sometimes referred to as the "World Series earthquake" as a result). Rush-hour traffic on the Bay Area freeways was lighter than normal because the game was about to begin, and this may have prevented a larger loss of life, as several of the Bay Area's major transportation structures suffered catastrophic failures. The collapse of a section of the double-deck Nimitz Freeway in Oakland was the site of the largest number of casualties for the event, but the collapse of man-made structures and other related accidents contributed to casualties occurring in San Francisco, Los Altos, and Santa Cruz.

 
Aids crisis

The AIDS pandemic began in the early 1980s and brought with it a surge of emotions from the public, they were afraid, angry, fearful, and defiant. The arrival of AIDS also brought with it a condemnation of the LGBT community. These emotions, along with the view on the LGBT community, paved the way for a new generation of artists.[1] Artists involved in AIDS activist organizations had the ideology that while art could never save lives as science could, it may be able to deliver a message.[2] Art of the AIDS crisis typically sought to: make a sociopolitical statement, stress the medical impact of the disease, or express feelings of longing and loss. The ideologies were present in conceptions of art in the 1980s and are still pertinent to reception of art today as well. Elizabeth Taylor, for example, spoke at a benefit for AIDS involving artwork, emphasizing its importance to activism in that, "art lives on forever." This comment articulates the ability of artwork from this time to teach and impact contemporary audiences, post-crisis.[2] This page examines the efforts of artists, art collectives, and art movements to make sense of such an urgent pandemic in American society.

 
The American crack epidemic

The American crack epidemic was a surge of crack cocaine use in major cities across the United States between the early 1980s and the early 1990s.[1] The Reagan Administration's War on Drugs created punitive laws against drugs like crack cocaine. These laws and new police tactics actively targeted poor black communities. Crack cocaine was one of the tools used to exploit racial hostility or resentment for political gain. This resulted in a number of social consequences, such as, the majority of young black men imprisoned or serving harsh sentencing for crimes they are innocent of or harshly punished for (including juveniles), the creation and exacerbation of drug crime despite a decrease in illegal drug use in the United States, increased police brutality against the black community resulting in injury and death for many black men, women, and children. Many believe crack cocaine increased violence in America. However, joblessness as a result of, the shift from a manufacturing economy to a service economy, institutional racism, discrimination, unequal opportunity, legally barring all felony drug "criminals" (who are disproportionately young black men even though the rate of drug use and sale is almost equal amongst all races) from basic human rights access (voting, housing, and employment) increased violent crimes in poor black communities as families did what they had to do to survive.[2]

 
The American crack epidemic

The American crack epidemic was a surge of crack cocaine use in major cities across the United States between the early 1980s and the early 1990s.[1] The Reagan Administration's War on Drugs created punitive laws against drugs like crack cocaine. These laws and new police tactics actively targeted poor black communities. Crack cocaine was one of the tools used to exploit racial hostility or resentment for political gain. This resulted in a number of social consequences, such as, the majority of young black men imprisoned or serving harsh sentencing for crimes they are innocent of or harshly punished for (including juveniles), the creation and exacerbation of drug crime despite a decrease in illegal drug use in the United States, increased police brutality against the black community resulting in injury and death for many black men, women, and children. Many believe crack cocaine increased violence in America. However, joblessness as a result of, the shift from a manufacturing economy to a service economy, institutional racism, discrimination, unequal opportunity, legally barring all felony drug "criminals" (who are disproportionately young black men even though the rate of drug use and sale is almost equal amongst all races) from basic human rights access (voting, housing, and employment) increased violent crimes in poor black communities as families did what they had to do to survive.[2]



Haven't noticed you around in ages.

Interesting posts!
 
Here are a couple of things I remember from the 80s that remind me how much better things are now.

1. Washington DC drug violence --- each and every night. Anyone else remember when the gov't called in the national guard at night to patrol DC with helicopters and night vision? Oh no? Let me refresh your memory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-troops/c071d1ff-6312-4679-9113-a36afa4ea99f/


2. Murder rate in NYC. I remember when I was a kid, NYC was an absolute shithole. Anyone who complains about hispsters and gentrification of NY is absolutely retarded or is full of shit. Death Wish 3 is not all that inaccurate (if you're wondering what a lot of NYC was like in the 80s).

There were 1600 murders in 1987 in NYC and it peaked at 2300 in 1993. By contrast there were only 290 murders in 2017.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/24/nyregion/murders-soar-in-21-precincts-in-new-york.html


Don't even get me started on the 1970s. Here is the 1975 vistor's guide ... Fear City: A Survival Guide for Visitors to the City of New York published by the NYC Council for Public Safety in 1975.

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Let's see.
From the age of ten through 19.
Lots there.
Empire and the final good SW film before SW was an out of control franchise.

Punk, hardcore, heavy metal and speed metal.

Ronald Reagan, the man

High school, my first kiss and first sex. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Phoebe Cates' titties.

Touring with the Grateful Dead.
Taking acid for the first time.

Bandanas as acceptable fashion, worn to accentuate the wrists and ankles

John Hughes movies
I'm forgetting so many things
 
I have posted many times in this thread about my love for the 80s, but some have brought up some dark things. I did remember having school assemblies on AIDS, and another on Crack. They convinced us we would be life long addicts if we tried crack, which I believed so that worked. AIDS was so scary that we actually used condoms until Magic ruined that.
Another thing that stands out is that NYC still was edgy back then. 42nd Street wasn’t Disney like it is now. Drugs, prostitution, peep shows, strip clubs, fake Id shops, ruled the area. Cop presence wasn’t like it is now. Graffiti everywhere. Now it’s so family friendly, there is a cop every 12 feet.
 
Another thing that stands out is that NYC still was edgy back then.

Which means that it was completely shit, dirty and very dangerous.

Reminds me of a co-worker back in Boston who laments about how Southie/Quincy used to be more gritty when in reality it was actually completely horrific compared to it's current trajectory.


42nd Street wasn’t Disney like it is now. Drugs, prostitution, peep shows, strip clubs, fake Id shops, ruled the area. Cop presence wasn’t like it is now. Graffiti everywhere. Now it’s so family friendly, there is a cop every 12 feet.

Jimmy Breslin had a a great line:

"I remember when Times Square was full of porno shops, pimps, drug pushers and prostitutes. Now that Disney has moved in, it's just a little seedier than it used to be."


Times Square is one of the few things I hate about NYC. Nothing rustled me more than when someone came to visit and said, "First thing I want to do is go to Times Square", Ugh. That was until I took my kids to NYC a couple of years ago and they wanted to go to the M&Ms shop in Times Square. Looks like I failed as a parent.
 
Which means that it was completely shit, dirty and very dangerous.

Reminds me of a co-worker back in Boston who laments about how Southie/Quincy used to be more gritty when in reality it was actually completely horrific compared to it's current trajectory.




Jimmy Breslin had a a great line:

"I remember when Times Square was full of porno shops, pimps, drug pushers and prostitutes. Now that Disney has moved in, it's just a little seedier than it used to be."


Times Square is one of the few things I hate about NYC. Nothing rustled me more than when someone came to visit and said, "First thing I want to do is go to Times Square", Ugh. That was until I took my kids to NYC a couple of years ago and they wanted to go to the M&Ms shop in Times Square. Looks like I failed as a parent.

Funny how I have family from Quincy, and they never moved and now have homes worth big bucks. As for Times Square, I actually go around it. It’s packed with Asian tourists taking selfies of themselves, and scumbag costumed characters trying to get you to take a picture.
 
Funny how I have family from Quincy, and they never moved and now have homes worth big bucks. As for Times Square, I actually go around it. It’s packed with Asian tourists taking selfies of themselves, and scumbag costumed characters trying to get you to take a picture.

And 300lb mid-westerners from B1G 10 schools that wear red (I'm looking at you tOSU, IU and UWisc).
 
And 300lb mid-westerners from B1G 10 schools that wear red (I'm looking at you tOSU, IU and UWisc).

The Iron Bar in Midtown is the official Buckeye alumini bar. Probably why you see so many OSU people. Libation in the LES is the only Wisconsin bar that I know and they don't care that much. Wisconsin fans are probably all tourist in Times Square
 
The Iron Bar in Midtown is the official Buckeye alumini bar. Probably why you see so many OSU people. Libation in the LES is the only Wisconsin bar that I know and they don't care that much. Wisconsin fans are probably all tourist in Times Square

Nah -- it's year round.

I used to go to a Nebraska bar on saturdays for games with a guy I knew. Also Professor Tom's in Union square for Michigan games.
 
Nah -- it's year round.

I used to go to a Nebraska bar on saturdays for games with a guy I knew. Also Professor Tom's in Union square for Michigan games.

I dunno. I know most people from Ohio wear something that says Ohio St or another sports team half of the time, so it is easy to spot them........except me. I only wear it on game day and it is kind of annoying wearing that stuff in NYC. Get a shitload of comments even if they are positive
 
I dunno. I know most people from Ohio wear something that says Ohio St or another sports team half of the time, so it is easy to spot them........except me. I only wear it on game day and it is kind of annoying wearing that stuff in NYC. Get a shitload of comments even if they are positive

That's what I'm saying. People from the B1G feel a need to where their school stuff wherever they are, all year round.


We save it for the big game, and then we go big!

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While this game was actually created in the 1970's, I wasn't introduced to it until the 1980's. Does anyone remember "Rebound?" Lots of fun as a kid.

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Damn... I forgot all about this game.
 

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