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Is TS actually serious? Why would a Heavyweight want to cut weight for an inferior belt when they can eat what they want, not have to deal with cutting weight and losing strength. The HW belt will always be more prestigious than the LHW belt.If Jones is the same size as every HW because of his height and reach, why are all the Heavyweights scared to cut down to 205 and fight him? Is it maybe because Jones is a LHW and Heavyweights are Heavyweights? Why doesn't Jones move up in weight like other fighters have?
Is it maybe because the jump from 205 to HW is 60 pounds instead of 20 (max)? Who could beat Jones at 225?
Not a troll thread, just trying to use irony after rolling my eyes at so many weak threads. If Jones wants to move up to HW for a superfight, all power to him. Whether it's the big money fight with Brock or a fight with Stipe to be the GOAT (and he'd have to defend after that), cool. But being the best LHW of all time is enough to be one of the all-time greats, particularly with the weight difference between LHW and HW.
And, to reiterate the first point, if Bones' walking-around weight is so big he could take on any HW, logic dictates that they should be able to cut down to 205 to take him on.
Flame away.
Rumble has weighed 235 between fights while still looking leaner than Cain, so has Glover and they're both as tall or taller, I really think some of the smaller HWs just don't have any desire to even try to make LHW. Not that they should since HW IS more prestigious!LOL like Cain has ever been less than 20% body fat in his life.
Cormier barely makes it and he is 3"shorter.
Is TS actually serious? Why would a Heavyweight want to cut weight for an inferior belt when they can eat what they want, not have to deal with cutting weight and losing strength. The HW belt will always be more prestigious than the LHW belt.
Jones can chose to not cut weight eat what he wants and fight at HW not the other way around. Im still trying to figure out if TS is trolling or just a total moron.
Why cut weight to fight someone who will just pop for roids or crash into a preggo chick?
So the onus is on Werdum and Cain to get less soft so they can get to 205. Don't see how their choice to stay soft is Jones' problem.
So the onus is on Werdum and Cain to get less soft so they can get to 205. Don't see how their choice to stay soft is Jones' problem.
Roy is the softest and cuddliest.So which fighters would you say is the softest one?? and does it feel compared to let's say cotton
If they want a supposedly easy fight as many claim it would be on here with jones vs the heavies, then yes they can come down. Randy, Vera and many others have come down to 205 to challenge champions.
It is a two way street, Jones can come up and oblige the Heavies or the heavies can come down and oblige the LHWs. Miocic can come down or take a catch weight.
Roy is the softest and cuddliest.
Agree.So every HW who isn't Stipe or on the cusp of beating him would rather eat delicious food and avoid the sauna than be the first person to (really) beat Jon Jones and win a UFC belt? Agree to disagree on this one.
What does a heavyweight have to gain by fighting Jon Jones, if they win it will be "of course they won because they are bigger", if they lose, they got beat by a LHW. the Lesnar fight is the only one that makes sense, there will be big money there and neither Jones or Lesnar loses anything by losing, Jones is still the LHW and his position and legacy in the sport isnt diminished and if Lesnar loses, he doesn't have any standing to lose...If Jones is the same size as every HW because of his height and reach, why are all the Heavyweights scared to cut down to 205 and fight him? Is it maybe because Jones is a LHW and Heavyweights are Heavyweights? Why doesn't Jones move up in weight like other fighters have?
Is it maybe because the jump from 205 to HW is 60 pounds instead of 20 (max)? Who could beat Jones at 225?
Not a troll thread, just trying to use irony after rolling my eyes at so many weak threads. If Jones wants to move up to HW for a superfight, all power to him. Whether it's the big money fight with Brock or a fight with Stipe to be the GOAT (and he'd have to defend after that), cool. But being the best LHW of all time is enough to be one of the all-time greats, particularly with the weight difference between LHW and HW.
And, to reiterate the first point, if Bones' walking-around weight is so big he could take on any HW, logic dictates that they should be able to cut down to 205 to take him on.
Flame away.
What does a heavyweight have to gain by fighting Jon Jones, if they win it will be "of course they won because they are bigger", if they lose, they got beat by a LHW. the Lesnar fight is the only one that makes sense, there will be big money there and neither Jones or Lesnar loses anything by losing, Jones is still the LHW and his position and legacy in the sport isnt diminished and if Lesnar loses, he doesn't have any standing to lose...
What does a heavyweight have to gain by fighting Jon Jones, if they win it will be "of course they won because they are bigger", if they lose, they got beat by a LHW. the Lesnar fight is the only one that makes sense, there will be big money there and neither Jones or Lesnar loses anything by losing, Jones is still the LHW and his position and legacy in the sport isnt diminished and if Lesnar loses, he doesn't have any standing to lose...
... if Bones' walking-around weight is so big he could take on any HW, logic dictates that they should be able to cut down to 205 to take him on...
...all of the top-10 selling PPVs in UFC history have had Conor, Brock, or Ronda on the card, and he won't be able to get a fight with Conor or Ronda...