Russia Collusion Megathread v11: This Is It

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Why did they all lie? Why did Sessions lie giving testimony, why did Flynn lie to the FBI, why did Popadopolous lie to the FBI, why did Trump ask Comey to drop the Flynn thing? They're all dirtier than the coal that's going to poison all your water now that Trump has rolled back environmental protections for water ways. Good luck, winners.
thats a good question, I've quoted the same thing here...

the only plausible answer I can come up with is, the FBI is/was more dirty and this was at a time when the leaks were a daily event. it might be that he knew he was doing nothing wrong and the leaking would be more of an issue. that doesn't explain lying to Pence though?
 
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‘Good to go’: Top Trump aide Michael Flynn gave inaugural day ok to nuclear plan involving Russia

As President Donald Trump delivered his inaugural address on Capitol Hill in January, his incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn, sitting a few yards away, texted a former business partner that a nuclear power project that would require lifting sanctions on Russia was “good to go,” a senior House Democrat said in a letter released on Wednesday.

Quoting a confidential informant, Representative Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wrote that Alex Copson, the managing partner of ACU Strategic Partners, told the informant that Flynn would see that the sanctions on Moscow were “ripped up.”


In the letter to Representative Trey Gowdy, the panel’s Republican chairman, Cummings demanded that Gowdy subpoena documents on the nuclear power plan from the White House, Flynn, Copson, their partners and associates.

Cummings said he had found the unnamed informant to be “authentic, credible, and reliable,” and offered to produce the individual for Gowdy.

Reuters was unable to identify the informant or independently confirm the information in Cummings’ letter, which can be seen here: http://tmsnrt.rs/2AvwKex.

Gowdy, Copson and ACU did not immediately respond to detailed requests for comment, while an attorney for Flynn declined to comment.

The White House referred inquiries to Trump’s personal White House attorney, Ty Cobb, who declined to comment.

If true, the informant’s story adds new evidence that the project’s promoters believed that Flynn and Trump backed the plan for a consortium of U.S., Russian and French firms to build and operate 45 nuclear power plants in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries.


Reuters last week published documents that showed Copson and other plan proponents believed they had Flynn and Trump in their corner. The documents also revealed previously unreported aspects of the ACU proposal, including the involvement of a Russian nuclear equipment manufacturer currently under U.S. sanctions.

Flynn was a consultant to ACU from April 2015 to June 2016, according to amended financial disclosure forms he filed in August 2017.

Flynn, who served only 24 days as Trump’s national security adviser, pleaded guilty last week to lying to FBI agents working for Special Counsel Robert Mueller about his contacts with a senior Russian diplomat. Mueller is investigating whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 elections.

Cummings wrote that he delayed releasing the letter at Mueller’s request until the special counsel “completed certain investigative steps. They have now informed us that they have done so.”


Cummings said the informant, who contacted his staff in June, met Copson at a Jan. 20 inaugural event in Washington. The two had not known each other, Cummings said.

Copson described the nuclear project and told the informant that he had “just got this text message” from Flynn saying that the plan was “good to go” and that Copson should contact his colleagues to “let them know to put things in place,” Cummings wrote.

Copson showed the informant the text message, according to Cummings. While the informant did not read the message, he saw the time stamp of 12:11 pm, which was about 10 minutes into Trump’s inaugural address.

“Mike has been putting everything in place for us,” Copson told the informant, Cummings wrote. “This is going to make a lot of wealthy people.”


“The whistleblower was extremely uncomfortable with the conversation,” Cummings wrote. “While at the event, the whistleblower made brief notes of Mr. Copson’s name and the discussion. The whistleblower left the event shortly thereafter.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/go...ural-day-ok-to-nuclear-plan-involving-russia/
 
Gowdy is probably miserable lol
Sounds like Mueller was keeping it from him.

"Cummings writes that he is bringing forward his request now because Special Counsel Robert Mueller had asked him to delay acting on the information "until they completed certain investigative steps."
 
Jesus. They were going full Alabamistan.

"When the whistleblower asked why the United States needed to be involved in a Middle East nuclear project, Mr. Copson explained that the U.S. would provide military support to "defend these installations." He also explained that this would provide a pretext for placing U.S. military forces in these countries.

During his conversation with the whistleblower, Mr. Copson described the citizens of these foreign nations in highly derogatory terms. He explained his view that “they will be better when we recolonize the Middle East."
 
Full text of whistleblower's account in Cumming's letter.

In June 2017, the whistleblower contacted my office to provide information about former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. The whistleblower has now authorized me to convey the facts below in support of our request to conduct a credible and thorough investigation and to obtain documents and interviews we requested.

On January 20, 2017 - Inauguration Day - the whistleblower attended an event in Washington, D.C. At this event, the whistleblower met Alex Copson.

Mr. Copson is the managing partner of ACU Strategic Partners and was working with General Flynn to promote a joint project with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Arab world. Mr. Copson confirmed in a letter to me on June 17, 2017, that his company paid the expenses for a trip General Flynn made to the Middle East in June 2015 to promote this project and provided a $25,000 check to compensate him fro the "loss of income and business opportunities resulting from this trip." On August 3, 2017, General FLynn reported that he served as an "Advisor" to Mr. Copson's company from April 2015 to June 2016.

The whistleblower greet Mr. Copson at the event on Inauguration Day and asked how he was doing. Mr. Copson responded, "I couldn't be better. This is the best day of my life." He added, "This is the start of something I have been working on for years, and we are good to go." He described the project as involving a joint partnership between the United States and Russia relating to the energy sector in the Middle East.

During their conversation, Mr. Copson informed the whistleblower that he "just got this text message" from General Flynn saying that the project was "good to go" and directing Mr. Copson to contact their business colleagues to "let them know to put things in place."

Mr. Copson quickly showed the whistleblower his phone with the text message. The whistleblower saw that the time stamp of the message was 12.11 p.m., but did not read the text. The whistleblower recalled this time stamp because it was during President Trump's inaugural address, which General Flynn personally attended. At 12:11 p.m., President Trump was approximately ten minutes into his speech, promising that "every decision - on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs - will be made to benefit American workers and American families."

Mr. Copson then told the whistleblower, "Mike has been putting everything in place for us." He stated, "I am going to celebrate today." He added, "This is going to make a lot of very wealthy people."

Mr. Copson explained that General Flynn was making sure that sanctions would be "ripped up" as one of his first orders of business and that this would allow money to start flowing into the project. He blamed President Obama for the sanctions, stating that he "f*cked everything up in my nuclear deal with the sanctions."

When the whistleblower asked why the United States needed to be involved in a Middle East nuclear project, Mr. Copson explained that the U.S. would provide military support to "defend these installations." He also explained that this would provide a pretext for placing U.S. military forces in these countries.

During his conversation with the whistleblower, Mr. Copson described the citizens of these foreign nations in highly derogatory terms. He explained his view that "they will be better when we recolonize the Middle East."

The whistleblower was extremely uncomfortable with this conversation. While at the event, the whistleblower made brief notes of Mr. Copson's name and the discussion. The whistleblower left the event shortly thereafter.

The whistleblower's account appears to be supported by numerous press reports over the past two weeks documenting steps General Flynn took before and after Donald Trump was sworn in as President.
 
So I guess they should have just said “unnamed sources close to the situation” and it would have been as credible as the conflicting reports?

Pretty sure just about anyone would be more credible than Trump's defense team here. It's literally their jobs to obfuscate and spin bad news.
 
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