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Well if you want to abide by the exact record then it's indeed 19-1 (1). If you want to start revising the record to what you think it should be, then 19-0 (2) is at least as, if not more valid than 19-2, as 214 being a NC doesn't really seem disputable given the rules.I love you bro, but he lost twice.
We don't start randomly taking losses away. St. Pierre doesn't have Greasegate wiped off the record.
Did Kelvin Gastelum not beat Belfort thenWell if you want to abide by the exact record then it's indeed 19-1 (1). If you want to start revising the record to what you think it should be, then 19-0 (2) is at least as, if not more valid than 19-2.
Gastelum didn't use PEDs.Did Kelvin Gastelum not beat Belfort then
Guess Silva didn't beat Diaz either
He was left unconscious, he lost.
The circumstances? A little horrible, I will admit. He still lost, and he EVEN says it himself.
Maybe, shmaybe,Gastelum didn't use PEDs.
I do think the Diaz fight was rightfully expunged from Silva's record as a win.
You use PEDs to win a fight and get caught, you lose that win on your record.
As Jones was not abiding by the rules of the contest he loses it as a professional win.
If you think Cormier has 1 loss then you are delusional.
Maybe, shmaybe,
It'll always have a cloud over it, but the man threw a head-kick and knocked dude out cold with punches.
I have a hard time giving Belfort any credit for that TRT Vitor run, and that's because of the night/day affect. You see him off roids and he looks like a decent fighter, you look at him on roids and he looks like Hercules.
Jones on the other hand was once upon a time just a kid coming up like everyone else. The guy clearly wasn't on some designer roids whilst making 10 and 10. Still back then he had all of these crazy techniques and had the cage generalship of an elite fighter. I sincerely cannot see much of a difference in Jones against Bader and Vera, than Jones against Machida and Cormier for example.
I get it, he popped - but quite frankly DC cheated to make weight against Rumble. Did it change the outcome of the fight, not in my opinion, but he should have been stripped.
Shit happens man, Cormier has beaten many roiders in other fights and there was no complaint. Cannot complain when you lose, man was paid what he deserved and only got that money because it was a super fight with Jones. It's like Mark Hunt crying about roids, you wouldn't have been crying if you won Mark. You know what you're getting into here, you cannot cry about it afterwards.
sure he would. he would also fail his post (or pre) fight test and cry at the presser afterwards. damn, those tainted supplements, right?Jon Jones would beat the shit out of all 4 of them too.
InsightfulThat's a lot of wins but not a lot of losses.
not that I am surprised hearing something like this from you, but still, why do you hate DC so much?Hope DC gets koed so hard that he can't ever call a fight again.
not that I am surprised hearing something like this from you, but still, why do you hate DC so much?
Clean Jones is the one who fought OSP. DC smashes and surpasses Jones as LHW GOAT.19-2
I am so far from being anything close to be a fan of yours, but that is OK. I just want to clarify that one out to not let you live in false hopes. ;-)I have no idea who you are but it's nice to have a fan.
DC is annoying and has too many roles for an active fighter. He's a good dude but he just annoys the piss out of me with his fake nice guy act.
I am so far from being anything close to be a fan of yours, but that is OK. I just want to clarify that one out to not let you live in false hopes. ;-)
Thanks for the response though, he doesn't come acroos as a fake nice guy to me (even you wrote he's a good dude), but I understand that his attitude just annoys you. Some people annoys me too.
Clean Jones is the one who fought OSP. DC smashes and surpasses Jones as LHW GOAT.
Do we eliminate all of the Pride wins from back in the day?19-0 (2) my man.
Nah I was just commenting that if you're in the business of adjusting DC's record, you might as well adjust the losses down.Do we eliminate all of the Pride wins from back in the day?