Former white supremacist leader says Donald is using white supremacist recruiting tactics

[Leagon]

The guy wrote the article based on the words of a white nationalist...did you even watch the video? Hurr durr.

He's not a white nationalist. He used to be, but he hasn't been since his youth.

 

[Leagon]

My thoughts are that I'm never watching the video so kindly stop asking me about it.

Thank you, sir.

Well this thread is about the video. You're basically saying that you refuse to do anything but derail the thread. I don't believe that's against the rules, so you're free to continue.

And I'm free to keep asking you to stay on topic. You're free to ignore me, though.

 

[Leagon]

You are free to discuss anything you want, i have not argued otherwise, but said this is perfectly fine.

Pointing out that Trump uses tactics that are used by Nazis without acknowledging that these tactics are not exclusive to any group is a transparent smear tactic. Maybe Nazis use this smear tactic, too . All I'm suggesting is that acknowledging this shows good faith.

How do you know that the tactics aren't exclusive to any group? You don't even know what tactics he's referring to.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Near term the consequences are the abdication of political power.

So we're supposed to be worried that "our people", like these guys, won't be looking out for us anymore?

 

[Leagon]

TS How is Derek Black a leader? What organisation did he run? His dad is a computer programmer, not exactly Braveheart bro...

I bet any salesman could be accused of Ponzi scheme tactics!!!

He used to host a radio show and give keynote speeches at rallies. He also helped design the world's largest white supremacist website.

 

[dontsnitch]

How do you know that the tactics aren't exclusive to any group? You don't even know what tactics he's referring to.

You're right, I do not, i made an assumption based on the fact that Nazis don't have the exclusive rights to the logic behind propaganda.

If I'm wrong,correct me.

 

[SONNEN]

Since you're only criticizing the show, is it safe to say you have no problem with the actual content of the Black's statements? He is not Trevor Noah.

Leagon do you check under your bed at night for white supremacist?

Trrvor Noah is pure garbage, he's not a real comedian, he pretty much has as radical views on race that Black had.

 

[Leagon]

You're right, I do not, i made an assumption based on the fact that Nazis don't have the exclusive rights to the logic behind propaganda.

If I'm wrong,correct me.

No.

This is a dumb conversation. You are basically arguing that Derek Lewis dominated Alexander Volkov because you saw the summation of the fight that said Lewis won by KO. You refuse to watch the fight, but you're telling me to prove you wrong. You're speaking from a position so ignorant that you don't even know how ignorant you sound. There are different kinds of propaganda.

The video is only 14 minutes long, ffs. If you don't want to watch it, that's fine, but don't pretend that you have an informed opinion.

 

[Leagon]

Leagon do you check under your bed at night for white supremacist?

Trrvor Noah is pure garbage, he's not a real comedian, he pretty much has as radical views on race that Black had.

What does this have to do with Black's position on white supremacy?

 

[SONNEN]

He used to host a radio show and give keynote speeches at rallies. He also helped design the world's largest white supremacist website.

His daddy paid 250$ a week to host his radio show and he dabbled in computer programming; is Sean Hannity a leader too, how about Trever Noah? What organisation did Black run?

 

[dontsnitch]

No.

This is a dumb conversation. You are basically arguing that Derek Lewis dominated Alexander Volkov because you saw the summation of the fight that said Lewis won by KO. You refuse to watch the fight, but you're telling me to prove you wrong. You're speaking from a position so ignorant that you don't even know how ignorant you sound. There are different kinds of propaganda.

The video is only 14 minutes long, ffs. If you don't want to watch it, that's fine, but don't pretend that you have an informed opinion.

I don't really see the relevancy of your fight analogy. I never said anything remotely close to that.

This is the equivalent of implying those that support the welfare state are evil cause the Nazis are also socialists.

I've said my piece, since i can't watch the vid I'll exit.

 

[splendica]

There's a lot of legit "fake news" or flat out lying in this thread. I'm glad for freedom of speech so that people can determine the truth for themselves. Donald Trump is a great leader in this regard even when calling out the press for inaccuracies or plain untruths.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Somewhat interesting interview. This guy, Derek Black, is Don Black's son and one of the designers of Stormfront, apparently.



I'd recommend watching the video. He comes off as a really calm, measured dude that is speaking more from genuine experience and not from a political position.

Cliffs:
- He tells his story of growing up in a racist household and how going to college and being challenged and befriended by different types of people helped cure him.
- He says America was founded on white supremacy.
- He says that he doesn't think Donald is racist but that Donald is using some of the same strategies that he himself used when he was trying to bring white people to his side.
- He says the most effective tool in shutting down the spread of white supremacy is having white people speak out against it when they see it.

Thoughts? I'm mainly interested in the thoughts of conservative posters, as I think most of this already aligns with popular liberal thought. For the conservatives, what do you think about what Black said about systemic racism and how to fight it?

I've got 1 small quip, he said he was raised to believe America was founded on white supremacy.

Small detail, but changes what he actually said.

 

[tonni]

Progressives really are this fucked up.

I bet you yell ‘progressive liberals’ and ‘bitter minorities’ when you’re jerking off

 

[Leagon]

His daddy paid 250$ a week to host his radio show and he dabbled in computer programming; is Sean Hannity a leader too, how about Trever Noah? What organisation did Black run?

We clearly have different definitions of the word "leader."

 

[Leagon]

I've got 1 small quip, he said he was raised to believe America was founded on white supremacy.

Small detail, but changes what he actually said.

I got the impression that he was asserting it as an ideology that continues to be at the root of American values. I'd have to watch the video again to discuss the nuance on this issue, but from how he talked about fighting white supremacy, it seemed like he still views is as an institutional problem.

 

[Soul Crusher]

I bet you yell ‘progressive liberals’ and ‘bitter minorities’ when you’re jerking off

Meanwhile... in Belgium...

 

[Leagon]

I don't really see the relevancy of your fight analogy. I never said anything remotely close to that.

This is the equivalent of implying those that support the welfare state are evil cause the Nazis are also socialists.

I've said my piece, since i can't watch the vid I'll exit.

The fight analogy is that you think you understand the content of an event simply because of a summary you read. The actual event is much more complicated, but since you refuse to watch it, we can't discuss the nuance.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Bet you have no problem with Colonialism and mass emigration of Europeans displacing Native Americans.

Most of the illegals coming into America are from MesoAmerica, and most of them have native ancestry. So if America is changing, it is only going to look closer to how it was before colonialism.

Central and South American ancestry, but don't let me stimey your argument with facts.

I don't care that South Americans and Mexicans are coming, but honestly how much of an ancestral claim do they actually have to the US?

 

[tonni]

Meanwhile... in Belgium...

Nice comeback