Opinion Do you agree with the other party/side on any issue ?

[Swiftie]

Look at this guy for a contrast to Gutter Chris. He's not saying he no longer calls himself a conservative. He's just saying one particular politician and his followers are contemptible so he won't vote for that guy. Maintains his own views (which I disagree with, FWIW) and would vote for someone else in the party. This, IMO, is how a serious person expresses disagreement with a party or movement that they are aligned with.

If Democrats would nominate someone like RFK or Gabbard, and Republicans put up someone like Hogan or Christie, I'd vote Republican for president, but I'd still be a liberal. I wouldn't let crazies dictate my own thinking.

I voted twice for Hogan as Governor of Maryland. I'd vote for him as President. I'd also vote for Newsom if he was going against Trump.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I don't know. Do you worship Putin and Assad the way that other guy does?

At any rate, you're allegedly an adult who thinks that the other party is "pro-crime" and "pro-war" and that the left has extreme right-wing views on everything. Not someone anyone should be taking seriously.

Sure Jack, do you ever get tired of the petulant child act?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Sure Jack, do you ever get tired of the petulant child act?

I am tired of your act.

Your idea of policy analysis is "Republicans support the good outcomes, and Democrats are for the bad outcomes so I agree with Republicans because good is better than bad."

 

[Mr Holmes]

I am tired of your act.

Feel free to add me to your 100+ ignore list.

Your idea of policy analysis is "Republicans support the good outcomes, and Democrats are for the bad outcomes so I agree with Republicans because good is better than bad."

Mmm, no.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Feel free to add me to your 100+ ignore list.

Mmm, no.

I am free.

Mmm, yes. That was your comment ITT. In addition to pretending that Democrats support censorship and lying about their position on abortion, you said they're "pro-war," "pro-crime," and "pro-illegal immigration," America last (?), and pro-exposing kids to debauchery. That's just hackery. If you were a serious person and still willing to support today's GOP, you'd maybe try to argue that Republicans have a better approach to reducing crime if you thought that. Instead, in toddler-like fashion, you just think that the Evil Other supports crime! That's Whippy-level.

 

[Morning Star]

I would like to see some kind of basic healthcare, not sure I want no private care whatsoever. I'm pro-choice with restrictions after a certain timeframe, would legalize and decriminalize certain drugs. Don't think there's much else. Completely disagree on Left wing foreign policy, on education, on social security, on tax policy, on environmental policy, on criminal justice (or lack thereof), on policing, on a lot of social programs, on infrastructure and transportation.

 

[cincymma79]

I'm a two time Trump voter but I am pro-choice, I support a free Palestinian state and view Israel's occupation as illegal and a war crime. I also think Universal Health care is economically conservative as everyone would have to pay in, and that it's more efficient compared to our current 'for-profit' model which seen insurance companies and hospitals putting money before patient care.

What about you ?

I support people making piss poor Israel threads every day and lazily trying hide it then lashing out when they’re made fun of

 

[RoastBeast]

Sure Jack, do you ever get tired of the petulant child act?

Apparently it was right wingers that wanted to defund the police and went soft on crime by decriminalizing theft and robbery. I had no idea.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Apparently it was right wingers that wanted to defund the police and went soft on crime by decriminalizing theft and robbery. I had no idea.

No, that's just a lie. No one decriminalized theft and robbery, and actually yes on the defunding. Again, if you want to criticize or compare real policies, that could be interesting. But you guys don't even follow policy and you have no scruples so you just blatantly lie.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Apparently it was right wingers that wanted to defund the police and went soft on crime by decriminalizing theft and robbery. I had no idea.

I would point him the SF crime thread but its a complete waste of time. He's just a troll.

 

[RoastBeast]

No, that's just a lie. No one decriminalized theft and robbery, and actually yes on the defunding. Again, if you want to criticize or compare real policies, that could be interesting. But you guys don't even follow policy and you have no scruples so you just blatantly lie.

Decriminalize
: to remove or reduce the criminal classification or status of

California Prop 47 dropped theft under $950 from a felony to misdemeanor.

Jack takes another L. It has to get old being a dishonest troll.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Decriminalize
: to remove or reduce the criminal classification or status of

California Prop 47 dropped theft under $950 from a felony to misdemeanor.

Jack takes another L. It has to get old being a dishonest troll.

You tell me. You were clearly using it in the sense of "remove" there (and you also said robbery). And $950 is still below average. And what does that have to do with crime levels or changes since it passed in 2014? Again, your whole argument is dependent on lying. A serious post would be to try to really look at cause and effect with crime policy, and if you wanted to argue that your party is better on the issue, you'd make an argument. The lying hack method is to just lie about policy and pretend that the other party just wants crime, for some reason.

 

[William Munny]

Decriminalize
: to remove or reduce the criminal classification or status of

California Prop 47 dropped theft under $950 from a felony to misdemeanor.

Jack takes another L. It has to get old being a dishonest troll.

I would like to see his response to this.

is this not decriminalization? if not, then what would you call it?

 

[Jack V Savage]

I would like to see his response to this.

is this not decriminalization? if not, then what would you call it?

In 2014, they raised the threshold for theft to be a felony to be more in line with the rest of the country and to keep up with inflation (BTW, by his logic, every year since 2014, they have done whatever the opposite of decriminalization is). They didn't make theft legal or anything, which is a common talking point on the low-end rightist media.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Yeah he's attempting to sucker Gutter Chris into a completely dishonest argument. It's best not to even give him the time of day. I'm finding out that he's nothing but a troll.

they don't call him "hack savage" for nothin.

 

[terrapin]

I would like to see some kind of basic healthcare, not sure I want no private care whatsoever. I'm pro-choice with restrictions after a certain timeframe, would legalize and decriminalize certain drugs. Don't think there's much else. Completely disagree on Left wing foreign policy, on education, on social security, on tax policy, on environmental policy, on criminal justice (or lack thereof), on policing, on a lot of social programs, on infrastructure and transportation.

you could have free at the point of service healthcare for every single amercan citizen and there would still be private insurers and also doctors who only take cash to serve the very wealthy.

i know a lot of wealthy people who only carry catastrophic health insurance because for the day to day they go to specialists who dont even take insurance.

 

[White Whale]

I don't support Israel or Palestine and think America should stay out of the conflict same with Ukraine.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Not many things off the top of my head....but, I also don't think some of the things that Republicans think Democrats hate/disagree with are necessarily true. I don't want to ban guns or believe in "open borders", but I would like regulation/changes on how things are done.

When it comes to the application of how things work in society when it comes to trans people, I'm probably closer to the right than left.

 

[RoastBeast]

You tell me. You were clearly using it in the sense of "remove" there (and you also said robbery). And $950 is still below average. And what does that have to do with crime levels or changes since it passed in 2014? Again, your whole argument is dependent on lying. A serious post would be to try to really look at cause and effect with crime policy, and if you wanted to argue that your party is better on the issue, you'd make an argument. The lying hack method is to just lie about policy and pretend that the other party just wants crime, for some reason.

Lmao. I literally posted the definition and you attempted to decide which half of the definition to use in order to craft your pathetic response. Don't attempt to steer the conversation elsewhere. You got owned yet again.

This is you in this thread.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Not many things off the top of my head....but, I also don't think some of the things that Republicans think Democrats hate/disagree with are necessarily true. I don't want to ban guns or believe in "open borders", but I would like regulation/changes on how things are done.

When it comes to the application of how things work in society when it comes to trans people, I'm probably closer to the right than left.

This is the annoying thing about these discussions. We can't really get into real policy disagreements because so many people insist on lying about what the other side thinks.

Lmao. I literally posted the definition and you attempted to decide which half of the definition to use in order to craft your pathetic response. Don't attempt to steer the conversation elsewhere. You got owned yet again.

I think an adult would say (and I wouldn't really believe you) that you just meant that there was a 2014 adjustment in the threshold for theft to be a felony and you apologize if you gave the impression that you meant decriminalization in the normal sense. But that adjustment was made for inflation purposes, and without another adjustment, it's been "recriminalized," no?

And I think you're doing really badly trying to defend GOP talking points here, but I'm not as immature as you in terms of how I express that.