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No. This was already covered in detail.He's right and literally every single one of us knows it.
No. This was already covered in detail.He's right and literally every single one of us knows it.
In any type of mixed rules, literally any fight that isn't strictly boxing, Francis ends Fury inside the distance. Hell, he almost did it boxing as well.No. This was already covered in detail.
It was argued that in an actual fight Francis would win. Well, an actual fight is a street fight. Anything goes. MMA isn't that.In any type of mixed rules, literally any fight that isn't strictly boxing, Francis ends Fury inside the distance. Hell, he almost did it boxing as well.
Anyone begging to differ is deluded.
In a street fight, Francis also slaughters Fury, even quicker, or is this another "Akshually, gypsies are known for street fighting" thing; or do you think it hurts less to get dumped on your head on concrete as opposed to a canvas?It was argued that in an actual fight Francis would win. Well, an actual fight is a street fight. Anything goes. MMA isn't that.
Maybe he would but you can't be 100% certain of it. Street fights are highly unpredictable. They're not sport. Gypsies are known for their street fighting & bareknuckle boxing prowess. It's practically a rite of passage in that community.In a street fight, Francis also slaughters Fury, or is this another "Akshually, gypsies are known for street fighting" thing, or do you think it hurts less to get dumped on your head on concrete as opposed to a canvas?
You've never grappled a day in your life so just stop. Gouging with intent totally changes grappling and only those clueless would claim otherwise. This has even been proven it the UFC when it happens accidentally.No you didn’t. I can tell right away you’ve watched grappling on YouTube. Yeah, and Gerard Gordou gouged little Yuki nakai in the eye blinding him, he got heel hooked
I’ve been grappling since 05 my boy. You’ve never grappled a day in your life.
Lol, lmao even.Maybe he would but you can't be 100% certain of it. Street fights are highly unpredictable. They're not sport. Gypsies are known for their street fighting & bareknuckle boxing prowess. It's practically a rite of passage in that community.
No counterargument. Exactly.Lol, lmao even.
"It's in their blood, they just see red bro!"
They have D1 programs but NCAA > NJCAA. That was the point that I was making.
You've never grappled a day in your life so just stop. Gouging with intent totally changes grappling and only those clueless would claim otherwise. This has even been proven it the UFC when it happens accidentally.
That said, Ngannou would still be a heavy favourite in a no rules situation with Fury but it wouldn't be a walk in the park or formality at all like it would be in MMA rules.
Another post, another lie. I never said that I'd tap Alex Pereira. That's ridiculous. Now you're resorting to putting up fallacious straw man arguments. Face it, you got exposed as a lying sack of shit and a pussy.Nah the point you made was unless you competed at the highest level you can’t be considered good.
Tell me again how you would tap alex in grappling since he’s a white belt level. Ya
Try grappling once in your life noob then come back to me.Nah the point you made was unless you competed at the highest level you can’t be considered good.
Tell me again how you would tap alex in grappling since he’s a white belt level. Ya
Yep. Never grappled. Idiot. You’re like the karate dude who claims your one inch punch kills.
Stop. Eye gouging doesn’t negate grappling. Ya idiot
He wasn’t wrong, though. JUCO =/= Div1, JUCO only 2 years, good programs, my own had a great razor close dual with a very strong NAIA program my sophomore year that we lost by a hair that summed up for me about where we stood in the country. And that was no where near Div 1/world level/olympic etc.Nah the point you made was unless you competed at the highest level you can’t be considered good.
That cunt hasn't dribbled fuck all off any floor.This is fighting tho..... not pussy footy. Francis gets a red card for murking both those manlets at the same time LMAO
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JUCO standouts do exist. Yeah. Jon Jones was one of them. He was offered a scholarship to an NCAA D1 program. I don't know why he didn't take it though. Can't remember.He wasn’t wrong, though. JUCO =/= Div1, JUCO only 2 years, good programs, my own had a great razor close dual with a very strong NAIA program my sophomore year that we lost by a hair that summed up for me about where we stood in the country. And that was no where near Div 1/world level/olympic etc.
@Kovalev's "Man Bag" JUCO standouts would surprise you though, some killers were out there during my day.
Try grappling once in your life noob then come back to me.
Gouging. Changes. Grappling.
Or better yet, leave for another 10 years and then come back
Matt Hughes was a JUCO guy before div 1 tooJUCO standouts do exist. Yeah. Jon Jones was one of them. He was offered a scholarship to an NCAA D1 program. I don't know why he didn't take it though. Can't remember.
So was Cormier. He started his collegiate wrestling career out of a community college. If memory serves he won 2 JUCO national titles. Then he transferred to Oklahoma State into their NCAA D1 program. While he never won a national NCAA title he was runner-up. He also competed internationally in freestyle and was a 2x Olympian. Cormier had top level folkstyle & freestyle credentials.Matt Hughes was a JUCO guy before div 1 too
AA in both I believe
It can negate grappling for sure.YOU. SAID.GOUGING.NEGATES GRAPPLING
No, it doesn’t.
Can it change grappling, yes, but negate no. I’ve I’m mounted on you and you extend your arms to reach for my eyes you’re getting smashed in the face plus I’m going to get high on your chest because you’ve extended to reach up to me.
Eye gouging is highly effective in a street fight. You see what even the slightest eye poke will do to an MMA fighter in the cage. It stops them dead in their tracks. Some even fall to the floor and roll around in agony.It can negate grappling for sure.
If someone has mount on you and you can touch their face and thrust a thumb in their eye, they will be getting off or trying to change position to get away rapidly. You wouldn't be trying to smash anyone you will be creatihg space to protect yourself from being blinded. Sorry to burst your bubble but sport grappling is not fighting and definitely not no rules fighting.
If you really grapple then try it and see what happens if bottom guy really could go for a gouge with intent.
Same with a standing clinch, you try to grab my lapel I grab your face and eye we will see who wins.