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I liked when Naazim Richardson said "The only Cain I care about is Big Daddy Kane" and even Roger Mayweather started laughing.

I've got a question for the Ringside guys; on these forums there has been speculation for years that there is a difference between the Cleto Reyes training gloves sold in Mexico and the Cleto Reyes training gloves sold by Ringside.

Can you settle the issue once and for all? Are there any differences?

Links to some of the old threads on the topic:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f16/cleto-reyes-mexican-market-vs-ringside-cleto-reyes-training-gloves-1346909/
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f16/mexican-standoff-review-3-hecho-en-mexico-boxing-gloves-814351/
 
Blair this is a tough question for us to answer. We have asked Reyes about this in the past and they have assured us they are the same. We have never went to Mexico and bought a pair but I have to take the Reyes family at their word.

Dennis
 
Question for Ringside: Out of all mesh headgears, which seems to be the best? I am looking towards FightGear Airmax or Lonsedale Mesh.
 
Question for Ringside: Out of all mesh headgears, which seems to be the best? I am looking towards FightGear Airmax or Lonsedale Mesh.

We produced both of those headgear, they are VERY similar if you like saving money I'd go with the Fightgear/Ringside.
 
MMAsuppguru - I think what CSI NATE meant to say was since the Lonsdale is on closeout he would go with that.

Thanks,

Darrin
 
Minowafanatic - Taking in to consideration only protection I would lean towards an IMF glove with a smaller hand compartment. I think that the OTZBG would be your best option. I use the Combat Sports version HBG18 as it is the same glove myself when hitting a heavybag. Here are my top 5 Boxing style bag gloves that fit your your criteria. I also added a 6 glove which would be your best MMA bag glove option.

1. OTZBG -
2. IMFPFG this is brand new CSINate will post and image of it later today when it comes off the truck.
3. HSBG
4. SBG
5. GELSBG
6. HBG20

Let me know if any of them needs further explanation.

Thanks,

Darrin

I'm surprised by your choice of the 12oz fitness bag gloves as your first choice Darrin, especially because they are made of vinyl. I know that would make them easy to clean, but vinyl I would think wouldn't hold up very long.

Usually the "fitness" line from any brand isn't promoted for people who train seriously. Are these any different? I'm sure the IMF padding in them is still awesome though.

Any reason the IMFBG didn't make the list? It's a specialist bag glove.

IMF Boxing Bag Gloves - Boxing Gear - Ringside Boxing
 
Blair Dennett - As I stated previously "Taking in to consideration only protection I would lean towards an IMF glove with a smaller hand compartment." The glove I recommend has the best of both. I excluded shell materials because It doesn't offer any protection. The OTZBG shell is Dotted PU but my experience with this glove has been that it is really durable as well. I use the HBG18 which is the same glove when I work out on my heavybag. I am definitely not as serious about training as a lot of the people on here. I do however hit my heavybag 2 - 3 days a week and have logged roughly 50 hours of workouts on them. They are still in incredible shape with no defects and only have a little staining. When they do fall apart I will say that they are worth the $40 bucks and I get another pair. The one advantage I have over everyone else on here is that I can try on every product we sell under the Ringside/Combat Sports brands. If more people tried these gloves, I bet that they would formulate a similar opinion.

Don’t be fooled by the Fitness label tied to the title as we chose to use that term for SEO purposes.

Looking back I probably should have mentioned that I have very normally sized man hands. In most cases a large gloves fit me perfect. I can also wear regulars but I need to use them a few times to get them to stretch out a bit.

Here is a little more details on each so you guys can make you own decisions.

OTZBG – Our second tier molded foam core but that doesn’t mean that it is not great foam. It is of the same quality as our standard IMF Tech training gloves that regularly get great reviews. This glove has a tight fit, easy closure, sleek profile and best of all have an incredible price. I would agree that a drawback would be the shell materials being PU but we have sold several thousand pair and I yet to see one come back with a defect.

HSBG – Best IMF foam, tight fit, sleek profile, easy closure, best quality leather shell materials with the only drawback being the high price. It is truly an awesome glove and worth the money. Built for people who won’t settle for anything other than the best.

IMFPFG – Best IMF foam composition but in a thinner version, tight fit, offers additional support beyond your handwrap because of the laces. The laces can be a draw back. Someone else has to help you get them on and if you tape the laces with each use, at some point damage the gloves. These have the smallest profile of all of the gloves on my list.

SBG – Second Tier molded foam, similar to above, but thinner if you cut it apart over the knuckles. It has a sleek overall design, tight fit, easy closure and a 50/50 leather to synthetic mix.

GELSBG – This glove is pretty comparable to the OTZBG with the addition of a gel pad over the knuckle. It does have a different inside wrist padding and elastic band on the closure that keeps it from being super supportive.

Regarding the IMF BG - It is also a great glove but the hand compartment is wide, overall profile is big and the heavier 14 and 16 oz weights are not to my liking so it didn't make my list.

Thanks,

Darrin Clauder
 
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Thanks for the excellent descriptions Darrin, they are very helpful!

I think the feedback you gave for the OTZBG is excellent. And despite the fact that you've only logged 50 hours with them, knowing your boxing pedigree and having seen your videos I think that says quite a bit about how much abuse they can handle.

I've also seen a video of Jens Pulver (below) endorsing the Combat Sports version, which may have been a paid advertisement but in any case it seemed like he was genuinely impressed, and that guy can throw leather (or in this case PU- lol) with the best in the world.

Thanks again!

 
Thanks for the excellent descriptions Darrin, they are very helpful!

I think the feedback you gave for the OTZBG is excellent. And despite the fact that you've only logged 50 hours with them, knowing your boxing pedigree and having seen your videos I think that says quite a bit about how much abuse they can handle.

I've also seen a video of Jens Pulver (below) endorsing the Combat Sports version, which may have been a paid advertisement but in any case it seemed like he was genuinely impressed, and that guy can throw leather (or in this case PU- lol) with the best in the world.

Thanks again!



The last I heard his gym was mostly equipped with and Title/Fighting products. He must have been persuaded away by Ringside's quality (e.g., it has been stated Ringside/Combat Sports does not sponsor anyone).
 
The last I heard his gym was mostly equipped with and Title/Fighting products. He must have been persuaded away by Ringside's quality (e.g., it has been stated Ringside/Combat Sports does not sponsor anyone).

Yeah I noticed that in the "Driven" documentary, lots of "Fighting" stuff, including banners and clothing (like tracksuits etc).

I'm pretty sure Ringide sponsors a few fighters, like Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero and I believe Combat Sports has sponsored people at least in the past.

In other news, the new Ringside fight gloves are up on the website, and man they are sweet looking! Well priced too at $99.
Ringside IMF Pro Fight Gloves

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What about the CSI IMF Tech sparring gloves, do they have the best IMF foam or the second tier composition?

Also, the product descriptions seem to state they come with en elastic pullover for sparring (which I think is a great idea) but I haven't seen any pics of them with the sleeve. Is it outdated product info? The old ones used to have the sleeve if I recall.

Here's the TGE3 (which look awesome).

tg3e_1.jpg
 
Darrin were those recommendations in any kind of order?

Would the IMF Tech Training Gloves hold up to bagwork or was there some other reason they weren't included?

What is SEO?

Thanks
 
those pro fight gloves look like sex from that earlier pic posted, goddam :S

also looking forward to seeing the IMFPFG!
 
those pro fight gloves look like sex from that earlier pic posted, goddam :S

also looking forward to seeing the IMFPFG!

The new IMFPFG fight gloves are already listed on the website: Ringside IMF Pro Fight Gloves - Featured Boxing Gear

SEO is "Search Engine Optimization". I assume it means that the bag gloves OTZBG have "fitness" in the name so that when people do web searches for boxing gloves for their "boxing fitness routines" or "boxing fitness classes" or "boxing gloves for fitness" those gloves will come up somewhere in the search results. It's a way of reaching a target market using keywords that come up in web searches.

Makes sense. As Darrin said though, they are only labelled that way as a marketing strategy but they are still supposed to be pretty solid gloves for the serious trainer as well I guess.
 
Minowafanatic -
This list is in order in my opinion of our most protective bag glove options.
1. OTZBG
2. IMFPFG
3. HSBG
4. SBG
5. GELSBG
6. HBG20

Also, you can use the IMF Tech Training Gloves on the bags. I didn't include them in my list because of they have a larger hand compartment. Sure 90% of the support comes from your handwrap but if you can get 10% more stability from your glove I see that as a huge positive. Hope that make sense.

Thanks,

Darrin
 
Blair Dennett -
First thanks for answering the SEO question, you nailed it.

The TG3E has a bad description as it doesn't have a sleeve as it states. The old style did and I guess it was never updated. It uses the 2nd tier molded foam core. In addition to that it is a little thinner over the knuckles. It is more like 2 inches thick compared to the 2.5 inches that it advertises. We went with less thickness in order to keep the gloves like most Thai gloves being used today. I will make the correction tomorrow in our system so it doesn't mislead anyone in the future.

Respectfully,

Darrin Clauder
 
So it looks like the best IMF padding is in the HSBG, the IMFPFG and I presume the Heritage Sparring Gloves (the HSG) and also the new IMF sparring gloves (PROMFTG).

And it looks like the second tier IMF foam is in all the other popular IMF models like the OTZBG and the SBG as well as the old IMF sparring gloves like the MFTG, and also in the CSI IMF sparring gloves the TG3E too.

So can please I ask what the difference is between the IMF foams? Is it softer or firmer? More protective?

I'm a big fan of the IMF technology in the older gloves, but I haven't used any of the newer ones yet. I can only assume the new IMF is even better.
 
For the Heritage lace-up glove that's coming out(this year hopefully?:icon_lol:) will it come with different weight sizes? In the pictures you posted in the other thread, I saw 10oz only.

And will it require the same maintenance like the HPPM's? Conditioning oil and all.

Thanks!

And an ETA would be great too on it's release:) I just picked up IMF Tech Sparring Gloves and am looking forward to comparing the $90 difference.
 
Blair Dennett - Great question with a pretty simple answer. The old version is a great glove as many of you know. In a very small percentage of those gloves we had some premature breakdown or breakage in the foam core. We spent a lot of time with or manufacture determining what the problems were and when it was corrected it became the new IMF Tech core. All of the newly designed gloves have it right out of the shoot because there was no stock at Ringside or in transit when the fix happened. In roughly the next year all IMF Tech gloves leaving our facility will move to this new and improved version. The good news is for the ones that get the old version and have issues we will replace them.
The density is supposed to be the same but I would say that they are about 5% stiffer to the touch in my opinion.
In the beginning the gloves are no more protective than the older version but months down the road it will maintain its protective properties much better.

Thanks for the question,

Darrin Clauder
 
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