Ok, God. Thanks for blessing us with your ultimate wisdom.This pessimistic view of live and this attitude of "once you get depressed, there is nothing to can do to not kill yourself" is exactly why suicides are up 33%. You guys are giving passes to people who selfishly end their own lives. And Fuck outta here with this "You don't understand depression" bullshit, A friend of mines had 70% of his body burned in war and lost his limbs. He continues to live his life to the fullest and refuses to admit to the "woe is me" mentality. You guys are simply pussies.
60+ years on this planet is plenty enough. Better to go out while people still remember you for who you were.
We cling onto life too desperately in these times. The idea of someone just taking themselves "out of the game" scares us, especially when they're in possession of all that we seemingly desire out of our lives.
We start to despise them, because they force us to question whether it is all worthwhile in the end.
Society isn't even a little bit accepting of mental illness, much less suicide.Do you think in a society where everyone is super excepting of it is likely to have more or less suicide ?
I wonder what the suicide rates look like at the moment do you know ?
I suppose you've never been to an elderly care
Everything beyond that is just a gradual decline. Not everyone wishes to descend to nothingness.
It is the cowards way out with few exceptions. You have a terminal disease and don't want to sit through months of torture, you get a pass.
Finnish people, :facepalm:
This pessimistic view of live and this attitude of "once you get depressed, there is nothing to can do to not kill yourself" is exactly why suicides are up 33%. You guys are giving passes to people who selfishly end their own lives. And Fuck outta here with this "You don't understand depression" bullshit, A friend of mines had 70% of his body burned in war and lost his limbs. He continues to live his life to the fullest and refuses to admit to the "woe is me" mentality. You guys are simply pussies.
No, right, killing yourself so you never do or experience anything again in the only life we are objectively known to have is not giving up.While I personally agree that giving up is not brave, not everyone shares a world view that sees suicide as giving up.
hi again Judge,
hmmmf.
i disagree with you, as i believe it takes great courage to face the void and walk into it. Bourdain had faced enough physical danger in his life that i don't really question his courage.
are you alright, though?
you seem very feisty.
- IGIT
Even though it's a goddamn simple point, a lot of people can't grasp going through hard times =\= having clinical depression.Or your friend went through an ordeal and still doesn't suffer from clinical depression.
Whoop de fucking doo.
You are right about all of it except the willing your way through it
Its a disease and will is the only treatment for it
when you loose your will you die
Just a personal story but take it for what it's worth. Back about 10 years ago I was 14 15 or so, still living at home. Hadn't eaten in 2 or 3 days, pretty sure I waa dehydrated as well and got into a huge fight with my dad, who is one fucked up dude in his own right.
One thing led to another and I wound up swallowing 80 or so ativans and about 15 xanax as an irrational decision, I wasn't depressed or suicidal, I wasnt thinking straight because I was hungry and dehydrated. Last thing I remembered was them making me drink this charcoal shit and wanting to put a catheter up my dink which I refused, told me to try to pee and I did and I passed out after.
Woke up a few hours later in a hospital bed. Wound up spending whatever the mandatory is in the hospital, had me talking to psychologists taking all kinds of different pills for the few days. I basically explained to them what had happened, how I made an irrational decision and how I hadn't eaten in days prior to what had happened, how I didnt believe i was thinking straight and how one thing led to another. The psychologist psychiatrist whatever asked me a bunch of questions, I answered them, think they got me to fill out some form cant quite remember all the details.
They let me out the next day and I haven't done anything or the thoughts even crossed my mind, not neccesarily a depressed person before or after. Still think it was a stupid selfish decision to this day and doubt I ever would've done it if I was thinkin straight.
All of this just leads me to wonder if alot of suicides, especially from people who don't neccesarily come off as depressed are just a perfect storm. Could've been a long day, dehydrated exhausted just not thinking clearly, get into a serious fight with your wife find out she's cheating or whatever it may be and make an irrational decision in the moment that you can never take back, that you otherwise wouldn't make under normal circumstances.
If all you are subjected to is shitty family then I suppose that's your view point.
My grandmother in California moved into one last year because of spine issues. Her daughter(my aunt) visits her nearly everyday, some of my cousins that are close visit a couple times a month as well. Before she moved into one she lived in AZ. Her son(my father) visited her multiple times a week, I would usually go once a week, bring her some food and then watch a movie after. Her daughter(one that visits her often now) would call almost daily.
My other grandparents live here in AZ as well. They are in their early 80's. Grandpa goes golfing 2-3 times a week, they hike once a week when it's not hot af and they do multiple other activities with friends throughout the week. I see them 1-2 times a month.
Your cancer story is not comparable at all to Anthony Bourdain and your posts are a pathetic outlook on life.
No, right, killing yourself so you never do or experience anything again in the only life we are objectively known to have is not giving up.
Now, I agree that lots of people will say stupid shit but it doesn't make it true. Check out the articles on male pregnancy and sonograms.
Again, he fits the definition. Sorry if you are butthurt I proved you wrong. You should take it as a chance to learn instead of post more stupid shit. I don't care what your definition of anything is. I care what the dictionary has beside those words.
Again, just in case you missed it
coward - "a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things."
I know it sucks being wrong. It used to happen to me before I found out what words meant.
imo, will is important, but you also need a way to change your cognitive patterns. will alone isnt going to do that for most people.