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So disappointed in this news. One of the scariest fighters I have ever seen.
That’s why I highly doubt it, but you never know, maybe Dana saw it more as prudent, A, he doesn’t have to pay Yoel, and honestly Yoel had his chance in the ufc, but yeah, that sounds almost too charitable for Dana, but it’s the season,
He's not the normal 43 year old but if he got 2 years maybe Dana just figured at 45 they would be better off going there separate ways since his last performance pretty much ended any hopes of him fighting for a title again. Him pulling out of that Hall fight was really weird tho, you rarely see a high profile fighter pull out of a fight with no details given why he pulled out, and then no word of any upcoming fights. I think he popped.It would seem a bit strange to release him in that situation though, normally the UFC doesn't do that with valuable fighters as by keeping them under contract they can stop them fighting to anyone else.
I am surprised that they did not cut him right after the fight with Izzynot surprised after his last performance, he didn't do anything against israel besides ditty boxin and staring him for five rounds.
In which organization are they gonna fight because both of them are released from the UFCRomero vs. Silva
Yup i thought he won the 1,2 and 5th rounds against Izzy but he got robbed despite his poor performancebut he is the people's champ....
I claim the gate as being largely significant as it is most likely the primary revenue used to cover fight purses, event staff, flights, hotels, etc., and has been known to surpass net PPV revenue.A couple things:
1. @Rear Naked Toke and others mention "Live gate" for reasons for UFC decisions (Conor not fighting, Yoel leaving the UFC, etc.) yet more often than not, the gate has ZERO to do with anything.
In 2019 the UFC had total revenue of about $900M, yet the live gate was only about $70M of that $900M (so only about 7.8%).
THE best live gate year was 2016, when Conor fought 3 times and he was at the absoute peak of his drawing power (UFC 205 had a live gate of $17.7M whereas the average UFC event has a live gate of more like $1.7M). While that $17.7M sounds impressive, that is far from the norm, even for Conor. At #2 all time was Khabib-Conor with $17.2M, #3 was GSP-Shield with $12.1M way back in 2011, and #4 was McGregor-Cerrone which sold $11M and gate totals keep dropping from there.
Hell, in the list of Nevada's Top 35 UFC live gates, only 3 were in 2019 (the highest being $6M) and only 2 were in 2018 (Khabib -Conor @ 17.2M and DC-Stipe @ $5.7M).
# of Nevada Top 35 Live Gates (UFC) by year:
- 2019 - 3
- 2018 - 2
- 2017 - 0
- 2016 - 4
- 2015 - 5
- 2014 - 1
- 2013 - 3
- 2012 - 2
- 2011 - 2
- 2010 - 2
- 2009 - 2
- 2008 - 3
- 2007 - 2
- 2006 - 3 (2 of which were #34 & #35, each bringing in less than $3.4M)
Put another way, live gate by year has been:
So Live gate averages well less than $2M per event, and that's why the UFC is on pace to have their most profitable year ever in 2020, even though Conor hasn't fought and there's a pandemic with no live audiences.
- 2019 - Approx. $70M total from 42 events ($1.7M average)
- 2018 - $66.8M from 39 events ($1.7M average - $1.3M average without the Conor card)
- 2017 - $44.7M from 39 events ($1.1M average)
- 2016 - $88.8M from 41 events ($2.2M average)
2. There are a number of possibe reasons for Yoel leaving the UFC:
To me the interesting thing is the words used. It's not reported that he was "cut", but that they "parted ways". That means (to me) that it was an empass of sorts and that the UFC felt it was in their best interest to not be drug through the mud publicly. Whether Yoel and the UFC differ on his pay, he popped for another "tainted supplement", or if finding him an opponent is challenging, or most likely because the UFC said in no uncertain terms that he will not get another title shot, and so Yoel would rather walk. Whatever the cause I'm POSITIVE the UFC did what's best for them, and therefore they feel that having Yoel leave the UFC and immediately be available to competitors (assuming there's no pending failed USADA result) was the best for the UFC.
- He could've failed a test and due to pressure/circumstances Malki was able to get him released.
- He (via Malki) could have pressured to get out of the contract, and rather than test how binding the contract in court, the UFC decided to just let him go.
- The UFC could have cut him due to costs (though that's not unheard of for the UFC to cut someone with fights remaining on their contract, it has been done). If they feel that his value doesn't warrant offering him fights, then cutting him is a smarter PR move than having a contentious problem of a disgruntled fighter, with ties to so many other UFC fighters, dragging things out into the open via media.
Which brings me to one final possible reason. If Yoel wants out of the UFC, and I could see that if he really wants to become Champ before retiring then he has to go elsewhere, allowing him to "amicably" leave is in the best interest of the UFC. So far the UFC has avoided any real legal troubles with contracts, I.C. classifications, shady practices, monopoly, etc. But, eventually someone will file a more valid case and allowing Yoel to leave will be a nice data point to use to defend their practices/behavior. That and it's keeps things from turning ugly in public.
Yoel's out of the UFC = Jones and his "substantial assistance" strikes again!
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