That's the one! I tried looking for it after reading your thread but couldn't find it. Thanks for the link!
No problem, I'm probably gonna spend my afternoon reading through it again haha
That's the one! I tried looking for it after reading your thread but couldn't find it. Thanks for the link!
Exactly man, you get it. That's why it's called a combat sport, or martial art... that's why you train to show no fear, no pain, and it's a big deal along with aggression...as opposed to some other "arts" where you train to be the first to sit on your ass in front of your opponent, and to tap as fast as you can because we wouldn't want you to sprain something...
Funny thing. I do not like the stance and feet positioning neither of Loma, nor Cotto but their movement is very controlled and balanced. They are too bladed for my liking. If you notice Tayson and how squared he is and how freaking strong his punches are due to his narrow foot positioning. I really like being narrow now feet very close and almost squared, makes for quicker punching and better balance according to me.
I have not trained much lately but in my last practice my new boxing coach showed me some really cool backing and right movement defensive comboes of 2-1-2 (to the right or to the back). I really linked that to your concept of feet hitting the floor at the moment of punch impact.
Great guide as usual, a guy!
@Uchi Mata
It's to easy you in, like an introduction to whats goin to happen. Same for the last round...it helps the spectators relax before goin back home, have a nice quiet night...It's has nothing to do with the gambling, which doesn't influence the way Nak Muays fight, ans isn't a big part of the MT scene...
They definitely aren't too bladed. Both keep their feet very well positioned. Tyson would square up when he was really opening up, but he started in a similar foot position to the other guys and didn't square up until he had the opponent hurt or on the defensive. Even then, that style isn't gonna work for you if you aren't blessed with the same speed, power and explosiveness of Tyson. Whereas the foot positioning and techniques of Loma and Cotto will work for anyone regardless of physical attributes or style.
But whatever the reason, in a sport like boxing or MMA a much greater % of your ring time is spent actually fighting as hard as you can than in Muay Thai.
I guess it was glorious, but they were still all dead.
That's good enough for me...
I'm having a doubt, if you can remind me, the expressions: lay n pray, wall n stall, blankets...were invented to describe what kind of exciting fighters? Strikers or grapplers?
Because the discussion we are having, is about what is more boring, a MT fight, with 3 out of 5 rounds boring, or any MMA fight where a grappler is involved...
Now about boxing. I'm not saying boxer don't hit hard, and even those who go for points know how to. And specially if you compare a power punch from a boxer and a Nak Muay, obviously the boxer hits harder... but i will stay on my position that some boxers don't hit hard, because they don't have too.
The actual best boxer, with a 49-0 record, is a point fighter who is considered buy a lot of boxing fans as boring. Even if personally I enjoy his fights.
Now about you sparring a pro boxer...you know it's not fair to compare sparings... because in boxing it's ok to spar hard as fak. But not in MT. I dont know your experience, but the only way to really feel the difference is to have a 5round fight with a pro Nak Muay, vs a 10 round boxing match with a point boxer of the same caliber.
Personally i prefer to get hit by point punches over power elbows and knees.
That's good enough for me...
I'm having a doubt, if you can remind me, the expressions: lay n pray, wall n stall, blankets...were invented to describe what kind of exciting fighters? Strikers or grapplers?
Because the discussion we are having, is about what is more boring, a MT fight, with 3 out of 5 rounds boring, or any MMA fight where a grappler is involved...
Now about boxing. I'm not saying boxer don't hit hard, and even those who go for points know how to. And specially if you compare a power punch from a boxer and a Nak Muay, obviously the boxer hits harder... but i will stay on my position that some boxers don't hit hard, because they don't have too.
The actual best boxer, with a 49-0 record, is a point fighter who is considered buy a lot of boxing fans as boring. Even if personally I enjoy his fights.
Now about you sparring a pro boxer...you know it's not fair to compare sparings... because in boxing it's ok to spar hard as fak. But not in MT. I dont know your experience, but the only way to really feel the difference is to have a 5round fight with a pro Nak Muay, vs a 10 round boxing match with a point boxer of the same caliber.
Personally i prefer to get hit by point punches over power elbows and knees.
But that wasn't what we were talking about, we were discussing in which you worked harder.
I still don't agree. I've seen a lot of mma fights in which the guys don't work hard at all, and they wake up the last 10 seconds of the round, when they hear the double clap, to try to steal the decision. And I'm not talking about grapplers only. You also see strikers look at each other for 5 min...
I was about to talk about my personal experiences, but i realize i still don't like to give details about me on the internet, so i wont make for a good argumentation...
But if i had, you would have seen the truth and why MT is the only real fighting art, and that MMA sucks and that grapplers suck even more...
You're almost certainly more accomplished at striking than I am, and I get not wanting to divulge details on the internet, so I won't argue your point on whether boxing or MT hurts worse.
However, as a grappler who loves nothing more in MMA than to ragdoll and choke the people who whip my ass during striking, I'll just say that just like people who have only grappled wrongly assume they would be able to easily handle strikers with Gracie body locks, strikers who don't respect grappling (even if you don't like it) are seriously deluded. Nothing makes you feel more powerless than fighting against a really good grappler when you don't know what you're doing. If a novice sparring a good striker is confusion and pain, a novice rolling with a good grappler is slow, inexorable drowning.
Hm a part two is a good idea. I'll see what I can come up with.
Yes, glad you noticed that. Pivoting is a hugely important skill. Pivots can be used to step around a charging opponent, to turn an opponent in the clinch, to get your hips away at an angle when sprawling, to set up your own angles to attack with punches, kicks, takedowns and clinch entries, to keep track of your opponent and to cut him off. Pivoting is possibly the most undertrained skill in any martial art. Learning to do it correctly--without crossing the feet, turning away from the opponent or standing straight up, makes a massive difference in pretty much all aspects of your game.
Stepping back is absolutely necessary. The danger is that if you move straight back too much you'll either run into a barrier or you'll get overwhelmed by a straight blitz. However, no single movement protects you from every single attack other than a simple step back. There's no technique that can hit you if you step out of it's range. Not taking more than two steps back before changing directions is a great rule of thumb, but even then that's just a cue. If I'm trying to bait you in to attack my head, I may lean forward and take multiple small steps back in a row. The key is to remember the reason behind that guideline, which is to make sure you aren't being cornered or walked down.
strikers who don't respect grappling (even if you don't like it) are seriously deluded.
Pure strikers are just salty they'd get pounded into the dirt by a high school wrestler in a real fight.
As for delusion, honestly i think it's more in the grapplers side...They often think that with some weeks of striking, they are the shit and can compete in boxing/KB. I've never met a striker who thinks that after a month of TD/TDD they can go compete with D1 wrestlers, or go to BJJ comps.
They also don't understand/realize, when we train mma, that we the strikers dont go a 100%, since it's just a training, sparring session. But nothing stop them from going full power on the takedowns...so obviously they have good success on sparring days...But when the smokers comes, to a lot of them, it's a shock. The stories like Brock Lesnar are not so uncommon.