I've officially been fired

Hart Break Kick 97 said:
My guess is TS is just trolling

Either way it's a lose/lose situation he's in
He's either really weird or just a troll
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Ive seen alot of this guys post and I don't question this happened lol but him and the girl where never actually friends
 
Nada. said:
How is it not?!
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Jesus X said:
<Dany07>lol might even be beyond sexual harassment I think he actually commited a sexual offense sending that pic .
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I don't get it, the picture is not illegal, it's not of him, he's not intending to cause harm, it doesn't even involve a woman or a threat to a woman.

It's sexual, at most. I don't see the harassment. Harassment is "behavior, physical or verbal (or even suggested), that makes a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, humiliated, or mentally distressed." I think it is inappropriate and the woman could have let him know it's over the line, I guess she could say she feels uncomfortable, but it seems like a small thing.

I guess I don't think it's reasonable to fire a person for such an error of judgement and that a reasonable person wouldn't get their fee fees hurt by a horrible bit of internet.

Maybe my mind is just too polluted.

I feel intent on the part of the perpetrator matters, and reasonableness on the part of the complainant. Maybe a 3 strike situation would be appropriate.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
<DontBelieve1>

I'm not buying this.

HR looked into everything about a situation during a 3-week investigation, including the entire messenger conversation between you two, right?

That means they know the entire context of the 'innappropriate' conversations between you two, and would have judged the blowjob meme and perhaps have been a further line of being inappropriate, but it wouldn't have cross the line of sexual harrassment.

So, you're either leaving out some details of the interaction that would make your termination justified, or your own employer was looking for a reason to get rid of you anyway, or you're making all of this shit up.
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This!
 
Phlog said:
I don't get it, the picture is not illegal, it's not of him, he's not intending to cause harm, it doesn't even involve a woman or a threat to a woman.

It's sexual, at most. I don't see the harassment. Harassment is "behavior, physical or verbal (or even suggested), that makes a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, humiliated, or mentally distressed." I think it is inappropriate and the woman could have let him know it's over the line, I guess she could say she feels uncomfortable, but it seems like a small thing.

I guess I don't think it's reasonable to fire a person for such an error of judgement and that a reasonable person wouldn't get their fee fees hurt by a horrible bit of internet.

Maybe my mind is just too polluted.

I feel intent on the part of the perpetrator matters, and reasonableness on the part of the complainant. Maybe a 3 strike situation would be appropriate.
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Man, he send unwanted, unasked pictures with sexual content to a female co-worker. That is sexual harassment. The subtext is offensive and sexual with lots of room to interpret.

Also we don't know her side of the story. Maybe she was feeling uncomfortable the whole time getting memes from him but was kinda polite, maybe, maybe, maybe.

Here's a list, even jokes with sexual content are qualified as sexual harassment given circumstances.

  • Making conditions of employment or advancement dependent on sexual favors, either explicitly or implicitly.
  • Physical acts of sexual assault.
  • Requests for sexual favors.
  • Verbal harassment of a sexual nature, including jokes referring to sexual acts or sexual orientation.
  • Unwanted touching or physical contact.
  • Unwelcome sexual advances.
  • Discussing sexual relations/stories/fantasies at work, school, or in other inappropriate places.
  • Feeling pressured to engage with someone sexually.
  • Exposing oneself or performing sexual acts on oneself.
  • Unwanted sexually explicit photos, emails, or text messages.
https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexual-harassment

It's highly unprofessional even if he didnt intent to creep her out. I would fire him, too. Don't act like a borderline psycho at work.
 
Gracious Warrior said:
Welp I've officially been fired after a 3 week investigation by HR. I was a accused of sexual harassment by a backstabbing coworker who pretended to be my friend for so long.

I just want to put this out there for any guys who work with females and interact with them regularly. Never forget that women are women and they don't have the same mentality and sense of humor we men have. So before you think they are just like any of your other buddies take a moment to realize they are not.

Long story short: a female co-worker and I always chat and share jokes and memes and what not. We gossip and talk about inappropriate things too. So I'm thinking this lady is my friend because this is how friends act towards eachother. So anyway we are working from home and we start exchanging memes on messenger. And I jokingly sent her a picture of a guy giving himself a blowjob. She didn't seem offended and didn't raise any objections. We continued chatting and then parted ways in normal fashion.

The next day I get a call from HR. They tell me It's critically important. I must come in the next day.

I go to the office and they tell me I'm suspended until they conclude their investigation into a sexual harassment allegation against me. They told me the allegation was about the image I sent of the man. At that moment I knew I was toast. they told me I wasn't allowed to reach out to my coworkers in any fashion. So I couldn't call her and ask wtf this was all about.

But now it's done. I'm fired. And I'm still baffled by why she did what she did. She could have just said not cool and I would have got the message. I just feel super betrayed that she went nuclear from the start. But now I know my lesson.
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lmao Are you the same dude who crafted the saga about you and your son kicking ass at K-Mart? Or was it Walmart?
If so, welcome back, man!
 
Never send anything remotely pornographic via your work email or messenger.
 
lsa said:
Except you did not complain when I sent those pics to you.
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Gracious Warrior said:
Welp I've officially been fired after a 3 week investigation by HR. I was a accused of sexual harassment by a backstabbing coworker who pretended to be my friend for so long.

I just want to put this out there for any guys who work with females and interact with them regularly. Never forget that women are women and they don't have the same mentality and sense of humor we men have. So before you think they are just like any of your other buddies take a moment to realize they are not.

Long story short: a female co-worker and I always chat and share jokes and memes and what not. We gossip and talk about inappropriate things too. So I'm thinking this lady is my friend because this is how friends act towards eachother. So anyway we are working from home and we start exchanging memes on messenger. And I jokingly sent her a picture of a guy giving himself a blowjob. She didn't seem offended and didn't raise any objections. We continued chatting and then parted ways in normal fashion.

The next day I get a call from HR. They tell me It's critically important. I must come in the next day.

I go to the office and they tell me I'm suspended until they conclude their investigation into a sexual harassment allegation against me. They told me the allegation was about the image I sent of the man. At that moment I knew I was toast. they told me I wasn't allowed to reach out to my coworkers in any fashion. So I couldn't call her and ask wtf this was all about.

But now it's done. I'm fired. And I'm still baffled by why she did what she did. She could have just said not cool and I would have got the message. I just feel super betrayed that she went nuclear from the start. But now I know my lesson.
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Strange about sending the bj picture, hah. But anyway, sorry to hear about the job loss man. :(
 
Phlog said:
I don't get it, the picture is not illegal, it's not of him, he's not intending to cause harm, it doesn't even involve a woman or a threat to a woman.

It's sexual, at most. I don't see the harassment. Harassment is "behavior, physical or verbal (or even suggested), that makes a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, humiliated, or mentally distressed." I think it is inappropriate and the woman could have let him know it's over the line, I guess she could say she feels uncomfortable, but it seems like a small thing.

I guess I don't think it's reasonable to fire a person for such an error of judgement and that a reasonable person wouldn't get their fee fees hurt by a horrible bit of internet.

Maybe my mind is just too polluted.

I feel intent on the part of the perpetrator matters, and reasonableness on the part of the complainant. Maybe a 3 strike situation would be appropriate.
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ok, you try it and see if you learn anything and report back. go research.
 
That's just fucking weird. I would have fired you too. Good luck in the future though.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
<DontBelieve1>

I'm not buying this.

HR looked into everything about a situation during a 3-week investigation, including the entire messenger conversation between you two, right?

That means they know the entire context of the 'innappropriate' conversations between you two, and would have judged the blowjob meme and perhaps have been a further line of being inappropriate, but it wouldn't have cross the line of sexual harrassment.

So, you're either leaving out some details of the interaction that would make your termination justified, or your own employer was looking for a reason to get rid of you anyway, or you're making all of this shit up.
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He wants Sherbro Sympathy, he's getting Sherbro accountability
 
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