Locked JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie Thread v.5

[MMouse]

4-5.5/10

Spoiler

What I liked

Seeing the super heros and villains display there powers.

What I didnt like


- most visuals looked like a video game
- awful introductory, pacing, character development, build up and character chemistry. Everything was all over the fukking place.
- obvious plot holes such as the scene were JL were getting away from stephen wolf and the flood coming in, wonder woman hoped on batmans night crawler when she clearly couldve flown straight up.
- was not impressed how easy stephen wolf was killed off. And lol how he and the parademons held hostages in some sewer like they were some street gang. Youd think stephen wud bring them back to apokolips with all his teleporting
- was a very lame weak attempt on supermans comeback and the way he came back. One second hes fuk you guys next second hes "hey guys im here to help. His return shudve been a suprise and built up.
- wonder women, aquaman and flash cudve handled superman easy.
- batman was very useless in battle. Lol whats he gonna do against a god and his demons. He shudve been what alfred was doing. Directing and guiding everyone.

My overall take. If you want to see it for the visuals go see it. But if you're expecting some super hero hanz zimmer score, strong feels, strong inner comicbook connection, epicness... then this isnt the movie.

 

[armbarforhire]

In the comics flash has the ability to take away all your kinetic energy

Essentially slowing you down to a crawl

For example if he wanted to he could take away all of supermans speed and make him move as fast as a normal human

To beat flash you need to stop him from running pretty much. Batman has done it and others have before as well

Only way he gets defeated its by plot, the speed force also protects the users.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Speed_Force

Common Powers
The following powers are common among just about every speedster connected to the Speed Force.

• Superhuman Speed: Speed Force conduits have one main ability above all else. Conduits are connected to the barrier and accumulation of all Speed known in their universe. These characters immediately understand how to run at superhuman speeds and their bodies instinctively understand how to react at high-speed situations. Older speedsters have a reduced but maxed speed of 770mph which is just below sonic booms allowing them to react to situations without causing civilians undo stress. Speedsters in their prime can travel at much faster speeds such as the max level of recorded aided speed on Earth and even reach the speed of light with enough willpower. It is possible for conduits to travel much faster than the speed of light however such levels require an incredible amount of stress. Speedsters unaccustomed to their max level of speeds may detach themselves from the Speed Force or even become part of the Speed Force by accident.
• Superhuman Stamina: Speed Force conduits have to access the Speed Force for a number of different tasks. Most Speedsters use their superhuman speed and react at superhuman speeds; therefore, they must run for extended periods or operate for a large amount of time. Their bodies can handle the stresses of superhuman racing without noticeable distress.
• Superhuman Reflexes: Speed Force user's reaction time is enhanced to levels far greater than any normal human being. They are able to easily perceive the movements of other speedsters, and react to danger and events.
• Superhuman Agility: Speed Force user's agility, balance, and bodily coordination are heightened to levels greater than any human being. This allows them to easily maneuver when moving at superhuman speeds.
• Accelerated Healing/Regeneration: Speed Force conduits are able to recover from injuries far faster than any human. Any wear and tear damage to their bodies are almost instantly healed.
• Aerokinesis: By running in a circle at a certain speed, Speed Force users are able to create a vortexes with a variety of effects. One effect is pulling the air away from the center in order to suffocate an enemy. Another effect is levitating whoever and whatever was in the center. They can also create powerful gusts of wind by rotating their arms at super-speed.
• Electrokinesis: Speed Force conduits bodies generate Speed Force energy that manifests itself as electricity. This Speed Force lightning varies in color from yellow, red, blue, and white. The lightning's properties are either identical or very similar to common electricity, as it reacts magnetically to metals and can shock people on contact.
• Enhanced Mental Process: Sometimes neglected by Speedsters who only operate at superhuman speeds and never slow down enough to understand their full potential; Speedsters can access superhuman levels in their brains further than processing information. They can test theories, understand difficult equations and run trial and error in their brains at superhuman speeds. Different conduits access this activity in different ways.
• Enhanced Senses: Speed Force conduits traveling at the speed of sound may miss important events as they run by. The Speed Force grants them enhanced senses that allow them to see, hear, smell, touch and/or taste at an increased speed and understand it as it is processed.
• Intangibility: By accelerating their molecular frequency to a high enough degree, Speed Force users can make their body intangible and allow projectiles to pass through him.
  • Phasing: Speed Force conduits can vibrate their molecules so quickly that they can achieve intangibility for short bursts allowing them to phase through objects.
• Speed Force Aura: People who are propelled by the conduits during high speed situations can survive the harsh conditions associated with mach speeds. When the conduit must rescue an individual from a burning building these individuals will be protected while within the aura.
  • Superhuman Durability: Due to their body being surrounded by a protective "Speed Force aura", Speed Force user's durability is heightened to immense levels. It protects them from injury from high speed impacts such as punches they delivers and receive from opponents.

Advanced Powers
The following powers are advanced applications of the Speed Force that must be learned.

• Dimensional Travel: Some users of the Speed Force who are fast enough, are able to use their speed to break open holes in the fabric of time and space, allowing them to travel to other dimensions and realities.
• Time-Travel: Some users of the Speed Force who are fast enough, are able to use their speed to break open holes in the fabric of time and space, allowing them to travel throughout time.
• Chronokinesis: Some users of the Speed Force are granted the ability to manipulate time. Speedsters have used this power to speed up, slow down, or even stop the flow of time.
• Electro-Blast: Some users of the Speed Force are capable of projecting bolts of lightning from their hands, as well as forcefully discharging a large bursts of lightning from their bodies.
• Electromagnetism: Due to the large amounts of electricity generated from their body, some Speed Force users are able to magnetize and conduct metals near them. Speedsters like Barry Allen frequently use this ability to magnetize their suits to their bodies.
• Energy Construct Creation: Certain Speed Force conduits can focus their Speed Force energy to create constructs, such as costumes made of pure Speed Force energy.
• Flight: Some Speed Force conduits can rotate their arms and spin their bodies like tops to achieve something of a kind of helicopter flight. However, with practice conduits can even achieve controllable flight if launched at high speeds. Despite their flight abilities they are always faster on their feet.
• Infinite Mass Punch: By moving faster than the Speed of light, Speed Force conduits have the potential to focus their extreme force into one massive punch; when used, this punch pushed a metahuman from one continent to another.
• Sharing the Force: Certain Speed Force conduits can allow their friends or family members to run along side them at their equaled speeds. Certain conduits who may only have minor access to the Force may achieve full levels of the Force due to the main conduit's association with it.
  • Lend Speed: This facet of the force can also be used to increase speed, lending objects raw momentum by infusing their Speed Force energy into it. I.e. turning something mundane like a pencil into a rifle bolt.
• Speed Force Absorption: Some users of the Speed Force have been shown to possess the ability to absorb Speed Force energy from other conduits.
• Steal Speed: Some Speed Force conduits can steal the accelerated motion or momentum from objects or people to reduce their speed or even virtually stop them. Conduits may also steal the speed from other Speedsters or other fast moving people.
• Speed Mind: By tapping into the Speed Force with their brain, some conduits have the ability to tactically assess and predict the numerous possible and probable outcomes of most any given situation, by playing advanced variable examinations within his head he can simulate a quick pre-play sequence of a number of causes, effects and inevitable outcomes at an accelerated rate.
• Vibration Manipulation: Users of the power can control their own molecular motion to a point which they can utilize a slew of different effects, key among them is the ability to emit counter frequency pulses to generate earth quakes and shatter people or objects.
  • Molecular Acceleration: By vibrating at different frequencies speedsters can accelerate potential energy causing matter to violently explode around themselves. Most users can make anything effected, be it matter or energy violently rupture in a burst of speed energy.

Other Powers
The following powers are either exclusive to certain characters connected to the Speed Force, or are abilities that cannot be learned.

• Adaptive Metabolism: Floyd Gomez of the Gem Cities had been trapped in the force and gained an augmented biophysical anatomic process which accelerated his bodily build, going from an overweight individual to Supermanesque musculature form in a matter of days. Making his strong enough to rend and warp monorail steel girders with nothing but his bare hands.
• Centrifugal Force Manipulation: One user of the Force in the New 52, Roscoe Hynes can utilize the rotary effects of directive forces in order to become a living twister, changing the direction of their spin in order to kick up gale force winds that can shift the trajectory of an object in motion.
• Decelerated Aging: Some Speed Force conduits have a slowed aging process. This power can be imparted on their most intimate loved ones by extended contact rather than distribution. Others have the opposing accelerated aging process.
• Age Manipulation: Magali was able to manipulate time to control personal time to accelerate or reverse the aging process via tactile contact.
• Spatial-Time Mimicry: Xolani can blend within space in order to traverse great distances in an instant. He can also physically constitute himself of Speed Force energy in order to control their own physical dimensions appearing as a flexible 2-D entity.
• Speed Force Sense: Some users of the Speed Force are able to sense the location of other conduits of the Speed Force, and use their connection as a homing beacon.
• Speed Scouts: One user of the Speed Force, Bart Allen, has the ability to create "scouts", which are energy-like avatars of himself which he could send through the time-stream, then absorb their memories when they returned. Another user Godspeed calls this tactic being in two places at once, but use of it is taxing on his Speed Force connection.
• Superhuman Strength: One user of the Speed Force, Jai West, has the power to accelerate the growth of his muscles, granting him superhuman strength. Most speedsters have a level of enhanced strength.
• Speed Force Visions: Recently the force itself has begun taking a more active roll in the affairs of speed force users. Such was the case of Barry's reoccurring visions of events set to come.[13] These visions however are distorted, not completely vivid nor clear in they're meaning. As was the case with visions of the original Wally West or the coming of Godspeed, nor was the time when old enemies and future disasters were gonna come at him like a temporal hurricane.[14][15] At it's most extremes he runs the risk of being sucked strait into the Speed Force itself if not careful.[16]
• Atomic Inhibition: By stealing the speed from molecules and atoms around or from within, one Speed Force user can make anything immovable, impervious and incredibly dense. Use on a person grants them virtual invulnerability and increased strength while in objects such as thin air, a user can make it solid enough to be touched as well as make it all but unbreakable.
• Process Speed Manipulation: The ability to control the rate at which things grow and progress with time. Turbocharger exhibited this ability to control and augment technology with but a touch, causing it to transform into greatly amplified mechanized forms or simply bolstering its power output. It's also possible to accelerate the psychological and mental attributes of those effected, bestowing upon them increased intelligence and greater brain percentage affording the use of vast psionic power as was the case for Grodd, Solovar and the apes of Gorilla City.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Sorry, didn't think this was a spoiler free thread.

No problem. You can discuss anything, just put it in a spoiler box if it's a spoiler. We have to be considerate for those posters that haven't seen the movie yet and are just reading our comments.

As a general unofficial rule in my threads, you don't have to use spoiler box after the opening weekend of the US release.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

4-5.5/10

Spoiler

What I liked

Seeing the super heros and villains display there powers.

What I didnt like


- most visuals looked like a video game
- awful introductory, pacing, character development, build up and character chemistry. Everything was all over the fukking place.
- obvious plot holes such as the scene were JL were getting away from stephen wolf and the flood coming in, wonder woman hoped on batmans night crawler when she clearly couldve flown straight up.
- was not impressed how easy stephen wolf was killed off. And lol how he and the parademons held hostages in some sewer like they were some street gang. Youd think stephen wud bring them back to apokolips with all his teleporting
- was a very lame weak attempt on supermans comeback and the way he came back. One second hes fuk you guys next second hes "hey guys im here to help. His return shudve been a suprise and built up.
- wonder women, aquaman and flash cudve handled superman easy.
- batman was very useless in battle. Lol whats he gonna do against a god and his demons. He shudve been what alfred was doing. Directing and guiding everyone.

My overall take. If you want to see it for the visuals go see it. But if you're expecting some super hero hanz zimmer score, strong feels, strong inner comicbook connection, epicness... then this isnt the movie.

Whoa. I didn't see this coming. You're one of the more easy-to-please moviegoer around here, so I'm surprised with your perception of the movie.

 

[Polish Machine]

4-5.5/10

Spoiler

What I liked

Seeing the super heros and villains display there powers.

What I didnt like


- most visuals looked like a video game
- awful introductory, pacing, character development, build up and character chemistry. Everything was all over the fukking place.
- obvious plot holes such as the scene were JL were getting away from stephen wolf and the flood coming in, wonder woman hoped on batmans night crawler when she clearly couldve flown straight up.
- was not impressed how easy stephen wolf was killed off. And lol how he and the parademons held hostages in some sewer like they were some street gang. Youd think stephen wud bring them back to apokolips with all his teleporting
- was a very lame weak attempt on supermans comeback. One second hes evil next second hes "hey guys im here to help".
- wonder women, aquaman and flash cudve handled superman easy.
- batman was very useless in battle. He shudve been what alfred was doing. Directing and guiding everyone.

My overall take. If you want to see it for the visuals go see it. But if you're expecting some super hero hanz zimmer score, strong feels, strong inner comicbook connection, epicness... then this isnt the movie.

Spoiler

And why was that night crawler in the sewer right next door to the hostage situation? No way it crawled over there within 3 minutes.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

4-5.5/10

Spoiler

What I liked

Seeing the super heros and villains display there powers.

What I didnt like


- most visuals looked like a video game
- awful introductory, pacing, character development, build up and character chemistry. Everything was all over the fukking place.
- obvious plot holes such as the scene were JL were getting away from stephen wolf and the flood coming in, wonder woman hoped on batmans night crawler when she clearly couldve flown straight up.
- was not impressed how easy stephen wolf was killed off. And lol how he and the parademons held hostages in some sewer like they were some street gang. Youd think stephen wud bring them back to apokolips with all his teleporting
- was a very lame weak attempt on supermans comeback and the way he came back. One second hes fuk you guys next second hes "hey guys im here to help. His return shudve been a suprise and built up.
- wonder women, aquaman and flash cudve handled superman easy.
- batman was very useless in battle. Lol whats he gonna do against a god and his demons. He shudve been what alfred was doing. Directing and guiding everyone.

My overall take. If you want to see it for the visuals go see it. But if you're expecting some super hero hanz zimmer score, strong feels, strong inner comicbook connection, epicness... then this isnt the movie.

I canceled my ticket again

jk

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

I canceled my ticket again

jk

Lol.

 

[MMouse]

Whoa. I didn't see this coming. You're one of the more easy-to-please moviegoer around here, so I'm surprised with your perception of the movie.

Yea I mean you can enjoy it for what is. I know its a movie and I still found a way to enjoy it tonight. The visuals were great when it came to the super heros displaying their go two.

I thought I'd be honest about it. I tried to ignore anything that I would easily nit pick in other films, but it was just too obvious. It was like they didn't care and just cared about getting these characters on screen and play catch up with Marvel.

 

[Guestx]

I can't believe it.. this is DC's Avengers more or less and they can't even hit 150 mill and there is talk they might not even hit 1 bill at the end of it if they don't have a strong opening.

We shall see, told you had to score it higher you are dropping their profits.

What a strange world we live in where not hitting $1 billion is considered a black mark. Even for a major franchise, that should not be the case.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

What a straight world we live in where not hitting $1 billion is considered a black mark. Even for a major franchise, that should not be the case.

Justice League is supposedly a billion dollar franchise. That is why it's so painful to think how Warner Bros. have not properly cultivated the property and wasted its potential with its half-baked decisions. Five years ago after The Avengers debut, if you asked people if Justice League would reach $1 billion in worldwide sales or if a Justice League movie could surpass The Avengers' $207 million opening weekend, majority would say yes.

Superman. Batman. Wonder Woman. The Flash. Aquaman. Finally. All in one movie for the first time ever. The world's most famous superheroes in one blockbuster movie. Justice League is one of the most highly-anticipated movies for decades. And now it can't even break $100 million on its debut??

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

What a straight world we live in where not hitting $1 billion is considered a black mark. Even for a major franchise, that should not be the case.

Well the budget is like 300 million + marketing

Needs quiet a bit of money to turn a profit

 

[MMouse]

Spoiler

I felt at some points in the movie Benfleck had this cringe or forced look on him.

Like him saying lines he doesnt wanna be saying as batman.

Poor guy, I can see why he wants out.

 

[One MMA Fan]

The main villain Steppenwolf (voiced and motion-captured by Ciaran Hinds) is a dull CGI villain and joins the ranks of one of the worst villains in modern comic book movie history. Though he gets to kill a lot of people and beat up the Justice League, he has no charisma, likes to sprouts cliché lines and his motivation is so unimaginative. It doesn’t help that his CGI face looks fake and takes you out of it.

How is he compared to Ares ?

So the CGI looks off with his face huh, how about the Cyborg CGI did they improve it since we had those talks from the trailers a month or so back.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Spoiler

I felt at some points in the movie Benfleck had this cringe or forced look on him.

Like him saying lines he doesnt wanna be saying as batman.

Poor guy, I can see why he wants out.

Its Whedon

 

[Guestx]

Justice League is supposedly a billion dollar franchise. That is why it's so painful to think how Warner Bros. have not properly cultivated the property and wasted its potential with its half-baked decisions. Five years ago after The Avengers debut, if you asked people if Justice League would reach $1 billion in worldwide sales, majority would say yes.

Well I'd say five years ago things were different. We didn't realize how badly Hack Snyder was going to fuck up the DCEU at that point. Now we know.

For anyone to expect Justice League to make $1 billion after a) BvS failed to make $1 billion, and b) the trailer (which looked like shit) came out, does not really compute for me. When I saw the trailer, I probably audibly groaned. I thought it looked THAT bad.

Well the budget is like 300 million + marketing

Needs quiet a bit of money to turn a profit

That's just fucking crazy.

No way in hell any movie--ANY fucking movie, I say--should cost that much money.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

When I saw the trailer, I probably audibly groaned. I thought it looked THAT bad.

Gods of Egypt is my response to you

 

[MMouse]

Justice League is supposedly a billion dollar franchise. That is why it's so painful to think how Warner Bros. have not properly cultivated the property and wasted its potential with its half-baked decisions. Five years ago after The Avengers debut, if you asked people if Justice League would reach $1 billion in worldwide sales, majority would say yes.

Superman. Batman. Wonder Woman. The Flash. Aquaman. Finally. All in one movie for the first time ever. The world's most famous superheroes in one blockbuster movie. Justice League is one of the most highly-anticipated movies for decades.

To be honest I wouldnt mind a remake.

 

[Guestx]

Gods of Egypt is my response to you

That was also a laughably shitty trailer. Pretty sure I even made a thread about how shitty that trailer looked.

Thankfully the movie ended up being a lot better than expected.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

How is he compared to Ares ?

So the CGI looks off with his face huh, how about the Cyborg CGI did they improve it since we had those talks from the trailers a month or so back.

Ares was much better compared to Steppenwolf. Real actor in a suit makes a much more effective character/villain than an all-CGI one. Plus Steppenwolf is just portrayed so generically. By the 4th time he shows up, you just don't care about him anymore.

I have no problems with Cyborg's CGI suit. It looked good to me. But I could just be in the minority.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

That's just fucking crazy.

No way in hell any movie--ANY fucking movie, I say--should cost that much money.

What is nuts is that I know that some of the CG scenes from the trailer that look like they cost a lot of money are not even in the movie

Pretty sure that Flash breaking the glass is one of the scenes that got cut

They also cut out all of Iris West scenes. So they are paying actors and not even using them