News Marvin Hagler has passed away

lol, fair enough, but you get my point, right?

It's not like "Oh shit, we have to be wary of the vaccine".
For me its absolutely about Marvin Hagler. I'm curious what he died of... When I read the news, I was surprised just like everyone who was familiar with Hagler.

And for the people who don't know: Top 3 southpaw of all time - right next to Pacquaio & Whitaker.
 
It's not like "Oh shit, we have to be wary of the vaccine".
For me its absolutely about Marvin Hagler. I'm curious what he died of... When I read the news, I was surprised just like everyone who was familiar with Hagler.

And for the people who don't know: Top 3 southpaw of all time - right next to Pacquaio & Whitaker.

Fair play. When it's within hours of when he died, maybe we should wait. If he died from the vaccine (if he even got a vaccine), then yeah, whatever, but one of the greatest fighters just died. It's not about horseshit ideas about vaccines from guys on a fucking karate forum; it's about respect to a great fighter and man.
 
If he died from the vaccine (if he even got a vaccine), then yeah, whatever, but one of the greatest fighters just died. It's not about horseshit ideas about vaccines from guys on a fucking karate forum; it's about respect to a great fighter and man.

Amen.
 
a true legend of boxing. hagler had a universal appeal to people. i had an middle-aged english lit teacher who found out i was a boxing fan. she told me she had been such a big hagler fan back in his heyday. i got a real kick out of this small, frumpy woman who taught shakespeare and d.h. lawerene and here she was gushing about marvelous marvin hagler.

Hard to believe hes really gone.
 
Damn my favourite fighter. A true legend of the sport. He couldn't have been that old either.... RIP
 
there have been reports of one of the vaccines, from Astrazeneca, causing blood clots, which cause stroke.

Hopefully unrelated. Just hate how the CDC already flagged Hearns's post with a disclaimer. If it is the truth, let it be known.
That's nonsense. 30 people out of 5 million who took it got blood clots which is what you'd expect from that many people who hadn't taken the vaccine. So it's statistically insignificant. Astrazeneca is really getting some bad press for no good reason. The EU made a big song and dance about how they weren't getting enough vaccines but at the same time their leaders were making disparaging remarks about it's efficacy, leading to many EU citizens turning down the Astrazeneca jab. I was anti-Brexit but seeing how the EU has fucked up this vaccine roll out I'm glad we're out.
 
The greatest MW of alltime.

Stance switching to perfection, unpredictable angles of attack, covering enormous distances in ring with pin point accuracy (gazzelle jab), absolute warrior mentality and down to earth guy. He had it all.

lets just celebrate him for the fighter and human being he was.

his abilities:



dream on and live forever





will miss him more than any other boxer, but in a sense he will always stay with us who appreciate him that much.
 
really ruined my day. I did write on his facebook, more than once, that i was glad that he was healthy and living a good life unlike so many of my favorite fighters. He also seems to be in the minority of fighters who didn't have money issues and I don't think we'll see anyone starting a go fund me for funeral expenses(hector camacho had nothing on hand for any kind of burial-in contrast) as nice as he was, he was justifiably tight with his money, kind of like a guy he had a lot in common with; Rocky Marciano.

Just did not expect this at all, Marvelous just seemed every bit as indomitable and invincible as he was in the ring, but as he once said when asked if he was invincible, "no one is invincible". I just always saw a guy like him, uptight, high strung, super disciplined in all ways, just didn't see him having health issues so soon. Here's a guy who was so disciplined that once he walked away from boxing, he never put on a pair of gloves again, (I know, he told me so on FB) . He was always a believer in going forward, always moving on to other things and encouraging us, his fans to do the same. They say the Leonard loss haunted him, and I'm sure it did but he rarely let the bitterness make itself obvious. Over the long haul, he has become the favorite of that era over Leonard by the fans so it balanced out.
 
really ruined my day. I did write on his facebook, more than once, that i was glad that he was healthy and living a good life unlike so many of my favorite fighters. He also seems to be in the minority of fighters who didn't have money issues and I don't think we'll see anyone starting a go fund me for funeral expenses(hector camacho had nothing on hand for any kind of burial-in contrast) as nice as he was, he was justifiably tight with his money, kind of like a guy he had a lot in common with; Rocky Marciano.

Just did not expect this at all, Marvelous just seemed every bit as indomitable and invincible as he was in the ring, but as he once said when asked if he was invincible, "no one is invincible". I just always saw a guy like him, uptight, high strung, super disciplined in all ways, just didn't see him having health issues so soon. Here's a guy who was so disciplined that once he walked away from boxing, he never put on a pair of gloves again, (I know, he told me so on FB) . He was always a believer in going forward, always moving on to other things and encouraging us, his fans to do the same. They say the Leonard loss haunted him, and I'm sure it did but he rarely let the bitterness make itself obvious. Over the long haul, he has become the favorite of that era over Leonard by the fans so it balanced out.

I don't think it haunted him that much. If it did, he would have taken the rematch.
In 1988 or 1989 him and Leonard happened to be at the same restaurant. Leonard sent someone over to Hagler to ask if he's interested in a rematch, and Hagler responded "Tell Ray to get a life".
 
marvelous marvin hagler has to be one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever lace them up.

the man was everything you want in a fighter.

i hope he enjoyed his retirement and went peacefully.
 
RiP to an absolute legend

Arguably the best 160lb boxer ever and imo the toughest combat sports star in history p4p
 
He was before my time, but my Dad met him several times when he was working in Boston. Despite the savageness of his chosen discipline, he was a complete gentleman through and through.

Once, when Fléau Sr was in a bar with the rest of the workers after finishing up at a build, Marvin came in and ordered a drink before he was approached by the local drunk, who mumbled something to the barman about "that :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: sitting on my seat."
After finishing his drink, Marvin smiled and apologized to the drunk for whatever offence he caused him before he left.
 
Life is so random, morbidly obese septuagenarians everywhere. RIP legit Legend.
 
Goodbye sir. Your fights bring back warm memories of waking up early in the morning in the 80's to watch you fight , due to the time difference here in the UK.
Only knocked down once.
62/3, with 52 K0's.
Wins over an immense roll call, and fights i.e. v Hearns v Leonard which will go down in history as among the most legendary fights.
Rest in peace, God bless.
 
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Marvelous Marvin Hagler was a pure fighter in a business he hated and a sport he dominated.

Hagler has died, aged 66, passing peacefully at his home in America. It seems impossible to imagine that the ring terror, the icon of the Eighties, the king of a golden age and survivor of so much savagery could do anything peacefully. His motto was War, his style unrelenting and his manners impeccable. “All I do is fight,” he repeatedly said. “It’s always destroy and destruct with me.”

He never had an easy day or night in the gym or ring; each session, each round, each victim, each success and each setback only made him more determined. Hagler never, never quit. His life before he started earning peanuts fighting, and then making millions, had shaped him; he was born with nothing and he fought all his life to have something. His family relocated to Brockton, near Boston, after the riots in 1967 in Newark. He left a city burning, dozens were killed and little Marvin was on the road.

He remained hungry until the end, found a hidden desire even in comfort and wealth and once uttered a phrase that all good boxers try and solve: “It’s tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you’ve been sleeping in silk pajamas.” Well, Marvin found a way.

Hagler went on the road, fighting the local idols, beating most, but losing two tight decisions in Philadelphia in 1976. It was an apprenticeship at the end of an old business, a business of abuse and neglect. Hagler is a fighting miracle, a man against the odds, the books, the facts and the industry.


He remained hungry until the end, found a hidden desire even in comfort and wealth and once uttered a phrase that all good boxers try and solve: “It’s tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you’ve been sleeping in silk pajamas.” Well, Marvin found a way.

Hagler went on the road, fighting the local idols, beating most, but losing two tight decisions in Philadelphia in 1976. It was an apprenticeship at the end of an old business, a business of abuse and neglect. Hagler is a fighting miracle, a man against the odds, the books, the facts and the industry.

“You know,” Hagler said. “One time, Joe Frazier told me that there were three things going against me: one, I was black; two, I was a southpaw; and three, I was good. He was right. It was never easy.”

Hagler finally won the world middleweight title one night at Wembley in 1980; it was a night of shame for British boxing and Hagler was forced to take shelter as fans rioted, showering the ring with bottles and broken seats. The police had to provide safety to leave the ring after Hagler had stopped and hurt Alan Minter in three bloody rounds to win the undisputed title. It was a defiant exit, somehow dignified under the vicious assault. It was not the first time Hagler had been escorted from a ring and given protection against the hostiles.

It was Hagler’s 54th fight that night against Minter, the title was his after eight years on the road, eight years of abuse, neglect and being overlooked. “I was the man, nobody else – I had to keep beating the number one contender. That is how it should be: one man, one champion. That man was me.” There are currently four or even five men holding a recognised version of the world middleweight title.


There was a reign of terror after the Minter win: Hagler made 12 defences of his beloved title, held the crown from 1980 through 1987, beating the hardest men the sport could find in savage fights of attrition. Vito Antuofermo, Fulgencio Obelmejias, Juan Domingo Roldan and others were certainly not boxing’s poster boys or choirboys, but they could really fight. Hagler loved proving himself. “You have to beat the man, it’s that simple.”

There were few laughs in the bloodbaths, Hagler was not big on smiles, shaking hands or compliments. He was born to fight, it was just his business, his trade. He hurt, knocked out, battered, cut, butted and won by stoppage in eleven of his twelve defences. He was also a genius technician, a master of distance and a brilliant ring thinker.

The John The Beast Mugabi fight is an 11-round showreel of suffering and pain and endurance. And then, one night in Las Vegas in 1985, Hagler knocked out Tommy The Hitman Hearns in just less than eight minutes of what is considered the greatest fight ever. There is nothing quite like the Hearns fight for intensity and desire. It will make you sweat for seven minutes and 52 seconds until it ends. When Tommy goes down it will be a relief.

Hagler lived, fought and reigned in a far more simple, far more brutal boxing epoch; it was a cruel sport with far fewer opportunities: “I had to work harder as the champion – they were all chasing me, they wanted what I had. I knew that feeling. It was always war with me.” And, it is often forgotten, it was always war with his opponents.


His last fight was against Sugar Ray Leonard in Las Vegas; after 12 rounds it was over, Leonard won a split decision and Hagler walked away forever. He finished with 62 wins, three defeats and two draws. Marvelous Marvin Hagler was finished with war in the ring.

He stayed away, stayed honest, dignified and true. And mostly silent. It was a privilege to be in his company and see the awe and wonder in the eyes of fans when they got close. He fought under modern lights, but was a relic from boxing’s worst days when rejection, corruption, FBI investigation, discrimination and outright larceny still owned the business: “Boxing was my art, that’s how I treated it and there was a lot about the sport that I hated.”

Hagler made a lot of people love his sport.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/marvin-hagler-death-fights-tributes-b1816936.html
 
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It's not like "Oh shit, we have to be wary of the vaccine".
For me its absolutely about Marvin Hagler. I'm curious what he died of... When I read the news, I was surprised just like everyone who was familiar with Hagler.

And for the people who don't know: Top 3 southpaw of all time - right next to Pacquaio & Whitaker.
It's hard to judge the best southpaws of all time. After all, how many didn't get a shot at the title? How many were forced to fight orthodox?

As Frazier told Hagler "You have three strikes against you: you're black, southpaw, and good."
 
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