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I think he's actually trying to ask who is the most accomplished amateur wrestler who is also the most accomplished in mma.Way to miss most of the point
I think he's actually trying to ask who is the most accomplished amateur wrestler who is also the most accomplished in mma.Way to miss most of the point
I think he's actually trying to ask who is the most accomplished amateur wrestler who is also the most accomplished in mma.
I figured that after reading your replies lol. It's probably impossible to say with some certainty because there's no real way to weigh the variables.My man
I think he's actually trying to ask who is the most accomplished amateur wrestler who is also the most accomplished in mma.
Agree with everything except for DC having an interim belt lolI'd probably go with Romero. He's a top 3 guy with a World gold and multiple silvers and bronzes.
Cormier has an interim belt along with a World Bronze and Olympic 4th place finish.
Cejudo Olympic Gold and a UFC title shot
Matt Lindland choked out the Michael Jordan of BJJ and is an Olympic and World Silver medalist
Randy wasn't really close to these guys in wrestling and while he has the UFC hardware he also has had some ugly losses and ugly wins.
Randy is two time Lhw champ and 3 time HW champ and think HW tourney winner
Wrestling randy owns him it's not even close.
On paper randy wins.
It's like comparing tito to van arsedale
Jones MMA wrestling is sick, I loved his fight vs bonner
Fact in both, if you can show facts that Jones accomplished more than randy in both please do
Randy is two time Lhw champ and 3 time HW champ and think HW tourney winner
Wrestling randy owns him it's not even close.
On paper randy wins.
It's like comparing tito to van arsedale
Jones MMA wrestling is sick, I loved his fight vs bonner
Fact in both, if you can show facts that Jones accomplished more than randy in both please do
All the top guys had more losses in that era. They fought more frequently, with inferior preparation and the technique of the sport was full of unknowns and surprises. Is Buster Douglas a more accomplished boxer than Jack Dempster?You know why Randy was a 5 or 6 time UFC champ? BECAUSE HE KEPT FUCKING LOSING. Jones has 0 real losses in his MMA career and beat virtually every top contender in his division. Couture lost to Inoue and some no namer Russian before he was even a name.
Matt Lindland choked out the Michael Jordan of BJJ and is an Olympic and World Silver medalist
Travis Lutter, it's a running joke becauseWho did Matt Lindland choke out?
All the top guys had more losses in that era. They fought more frequently
with inferior preparation
and the technique of the sport was full of unknowns and surprises. Is Buster Douglas a more accomplished boxer than Jack Dempster?
All the top guys had more losses in that era. They fought more frequently, with inferior preparation and the technique of the sport was full of unknowns and surprises. Is Buster Douglas a more accomplished boxer than Jack Dempster?
You know why Randy was a 5 or 6 time UFC champ? BECAUSE HE KEPT FUCKING LOSING. Jones has 0 real losses in his MMA career and beat virtually every top contender in his division. Couture lost to Inoue and some no namer Russian before he was even a name.
Randy fought some sick competetition , and was undersized in a few
He's more accomplished than Jones fact .
I have a feeling "everything was better back in his day/that era" for TSSick competition? How about:
Shogun
Rampage
Machida
Gustaffson
Bader
Vera
Cormier
Belfort
Texiera
Rashad
OSP
Fuck I hate Jones and can't believe I'm defending him but no. Just no. Jones has defended the belt 9 fucking times since he won it and has 0 real losses in his career (even though I still maintain Gustaffson won the 4th and beat him but the judges don't agree).
Let's compare that to Couture's UFC stretch
Randleman
Rizzo x2
Barnett (lost)
Ricco (lost)
Chuck
Tito
Belfort (x2...he did technically lose the 1st one but that's basically in the same vein as Jones' loss to Hamill)
Liddell (loss)
Van Arsdale
Liddell (loss)
Sylvia
Gonzaga
Brock (loss)
Big Nog (loss)
Vera
Coleman
Toney
Machida (loss)
You can't, with a straight face, tell me Couture's resume is better than Jones'.
I wasn't comparing Douglas to Jones, dipshit, but picking out two world championship fighters with equal numbers of losses from different eras.Did Buster Douglas clean out his division without taking a loss? No? Then you're comparison is retarded.
That's not really answerable, especially bearing in mind that Earth Prime Randy first fought MMA when he was four years older than Jones is now.So let's say in a hypothetical world we start Randy Jones off in MMA at the same time period with the same training, who do you thin would end up being the better figher?
I wasn't comparing Douglas to Jones, dipshit, but picking out two world championship fighters with equal numbers of losses from different eras.
Jones clearly has the best LHW resume ever, honorable mention to 2005 Shogun for likely making the most horrific mess of his contemporaries.
That's not really answerable, especially bearing in mind that Earth Prime Randy first fought MMA when he was four years older than Jones is now.