NFL Lineman: "I could be a UFC champ and beat Stipe" | Page 20

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  1. 45ACP I'll Be Back Belt

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    LOL he's an olympic silver medalist with multiple wins against olympic gold medalists, including Cael Sanderson, (who Sport Illustrated lists as one of the greatest college athletes of all time, btw).

    It literally doesn't get more high-level than that.
     
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    You didn't answer my question

    (and no, it wasn't debunked, everything I stated was a fact, lol)
     
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    Yep. It's funny...when Randy beat Tim Sylva and Gonzaga (two full-sized HWs) just before Brock he wasn't "severely undersized" or an old man. And when he lost to Big Nog (after the Lesnar fight), all of Sherdog was announcing the 2nd coming of Big Nog and what an impressive win it was. Only against Lesnar did Randy turn into a 60-year old WW.
     
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    Brock Lesnar became World champ within just 1 year and 3 fights after giving MMA a go when he failed to cut it in the NFL.

    Guys like Brendan Schaub and Travis Browne, failed athletes from other sports who had no combat sports/martial arts experience prior to taking up MMA in their mid-twenties, became top contenders in the UFC within just a couple of years.

    You've just seen a 30 odd year-old nightclub bouncer, new to the sport, who can't even throw 20 punches without gassing out, get hyped as the next big thing and given a title shot.

    There are some good athletes in the lower weight classes but the heavyweights are very, very poor. It's real bottom of the barrel level stuff. Now I'm not saying that random NFL players could just waltz into MMA and beat anyone right off the bat, obviously they couldn't. But the idea that elite level athletes would need years and years of training to at least be able to compete in the HW division is clearly not true.

    I get the impression that a lot of sherdoggers and MMA fans are like Joe Rogan in that they don't really watch much sport outside of MMA/UFC so they don't understand the true level of what it is they are watching. MMA heavyweights are sill much closer in talent and athleticism to guys from the early days like Tank Abbott than they are to top draw large athletes from other sports like football, basketball, boxing and rugby.
     
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    Let's see this guy weigh in under 265 first
     
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    key word is silver


    B- level confirmed
     
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    There are probably a good hundred guys in the nfl that could be heavyweight champ with 8-12 months on training and a warmup fight or 2. The level of athlete is just different. Bigger, stronger, faster. Look at the nfl rejects who were taking out mma legends left and right even after they past their prime. Mitrione could barely sniff an nfl roster and just knocked out fedor recently.
     
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    Let's watch Miocic beat the hell out of Greg Hardy for reference. In the heavyweight division, anyone that stands and trades can be put away. Size, athleticism matters greatly in the ability to land. In the deep waters, you better be able to wrestle and take some kind of punch. Hard to teach someone how to take a punch, ask Lesnar.
     
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    people really blow Brocks size out of proportion.
    Randy beat dudes bigger than him
    randy-couture-left-and-brock-lesnar-at-the-ufc-91weigh-in-at-the-mgm-haam0c.jpg tim-sylvia-left-and-randy-couture-right-pose-with-ufc-president-dana-H9MTCC.jpg
     
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    Randy was small

    In today’s mma he would be a mw at best

    He’s under 6 feet n was 220 in that fight iirc
     
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    Do you actually take yourself seriously?
     
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    he would still win at HW. the skill level has not changed in 20 years. still absolute garbage with 0 cardio. if anything heavyweights were bigger and more powerful back in randy's day.
     
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    of course
     
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    Randy's first two opponents (Tony Halme and Steven Graham) were bigger than Brock. Graham was 22 and was probably a lineman in college football himself from the looks of him.
    steven-graham.jpg
     
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  15. Final Say Frustratingly Logical

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    is this really how you spend your free time? being disingenuous to unwitting sherdoggers because its funny to you and you alone?
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    maybe. maybe not
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  17. Final Say Frustratingly Logical

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    the answer is yes, i was posing it as a question in hopes that id get you to reflect on your choices lol
     
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    oh stop, damon.

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    It's all fun and games until you get punched in the mouth. There's a reason why he plays football, and why Stipe is the UFC HW champ: one likes to fight, the other doesn't.

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    troll confirmed

    good day
     
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