No Limit Hold 'Em Poker Discussion

[Mga223]

nah he still plays. you can follow him on his instagram. they’re playing huge stakes in Bobby’s Room.

Yea, he lost a lot of money thought didn't he? Maybe made his money back?

Maybe just bs rumour but I legit got sad cause he was one of the first I watched.

It's crazy how entertaining it is to watch.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Yea, he lost a lot of money thought didn't he? Maybe made his money back?

Maybe just bs rumour but I legit got sad cause he was one of the first I watched.

It's crazy how entertaining it is to watch.

yea he lost over 20 million online. he deserves a lot more credit for the poker boom. all those World Poker Tour final tables, tournaments etc. A legend imo.

one of the GOAT poker vids. all in every hand.

 

[LEWIS540]

Yea, he lost a lot of money thought didn't he? Maybe made his money back?

Maybe just bs rumour but I legit got sad cause he was one of the first I watched.

It's crazy how entertaining it is to watch.

Gus's problem online was his game selection.....played all the top guys all the time. No bum-hunting like most of the soulless online experts. Pointless being the 11th best player in the world if you only play against the top 10.

By all accounts he does pretty well in live games, makes a killing at high stakes backgammon, sold a website to Betfair for $20million+ back in the day and has invested very wisely.

 

[Mga223]

Gus's problem online was his game selection.....played all the top guys all the time. No bum-hunting like most of the soulless online experts. Pointless being the 11th best player in the world if you only play against the top 10.

By all accounts he does pretty well in live games, makes a killing at high stakes backgammon, sold a website to Betfair for $20million+ back in the day and has invested very wisely.

Damn that's pretty respectful of him but silly at the same time.

He obviously is very brainy though, those online casinos and shit even in Australia go for big money now (even though most of it is like illegal over here)

Fucking sucks.

 

[Mga223]

Just hit a royal flush on prominence poker.

 

[MikeMcMann]

"Followed" for later comment.

I've chronicalled some of my 'live table' game exploits and history in numerous threads. I likely have as much live table experience of anyone on this forum unless they were a full time brick and mortar poker pro for a large number of years.

 

[MikeMcMann]

great bluff i saw a couple of weeks ago

I don't see that as a tough bluff to make and I think the fold there is what he had to do.

If you have 5 guys go to the flop you should EXPECT that at least one person is drawing to that flush draw from the flop and they will be chasing down.

The commentator was wrong too, imo, in suggesting the Set of 10's should or could bomb the turn with the brick because again, with 5 players to the flop and a Broadway draw as well, someone could easily have KJ or J8 suited and then use that to shove All-In, and force you to fold. Even a hand like AJ hearts or J8 hearts, flush and up and down straight draw would shove on you. The Set should absolutely be focusing on pot control and hoping the board pairs on the River to make a Boat.

The key here is the 5 players pre flop. I mean what are we supposed to think they called with preflop that would not hit a board like this with Flush draws and Broadway already made with cards that would all be in ideal calling range.

 

[MikeMcMann]

igot into poker a little back in its heyday a dozen years ago or so. that said, holy hell did that bubble burst. you hardly ever hear about it anymore. i bet the skilled players miss all those newbies coming in and donating all their money.

i should try to get back into it. i dont know if they still have them, but the casinos used to have tons of small tournaments to play in here in vegas. only cost like $40-50 or so

Ya, you gotta go to Vegas to find the tables filled with 'fish' or very weak players like was regularly anywhere back in early 2000's.

An ideal table of 10 for me is not all 'fish' but a mix of fish (5 or so), and 4 guys who know the basics of poker but are not terribly skilled at it. You can manipulate these guys.

the problem with a table of all Fish is you cannot use any 'plays' on them as they do not know what any thing means nor what they should do. So, for example, you cannot bluff them off a winning hand by giving them improper odds to call.

In a table full of fish you are basically playing 'best hand' poker at the River as most hands are going to go that way. So you just have to play super tight, don't bluff, make sure you only go in to pots with premium hands and hope they hold at the river, as the fish is coming for you no matter the odds.

Playing 'best hand at the river' poker is no fun.

 

[Fugazy]

Ya, you gotta go to Vegas to find the tables filled with 'fish' or very weak players like was regularly anywhere back in early 2000's.

An ideal table of 10 for me is not all 'fish' but a mix of fish (5 or so), and 4 guys who know the basics of poker but are not terribly skilled at it. You can manipulate these guys.

the problem with a table of all Fish is you cannot use any 'plays' on them as they do not know what any thing means nor what they should do. So, for example, you cannot bluff them off a winning hand by giving them improper odds to call.

In a table full of fish you are basically playing 'best hand' poker at the River as most hands are going to go that way. So you just have to play super tight, don't bluff, make sure you only go in to pots with premium hands and hope they hold at the river, as the fish is coming for you no matter the odds.

Playing 'best hand at the river' poker is no fun.

Thanks for coming into the thread, your posts are good reads.

 

[Foppa21]

Pretty sure gus went broke.


Wish online poker wasn't banned in Australia FFS

Word is Gus went broke numerous times. But always able to find some money and action.

It's banned in Aussie??!?!??!

 

[SaiWa]

Ya, you gotta go to Vegas to find the tables filled with 'fish' or very weak players like was regularly anywhere back in early 2000's.

An ideal table of 10 for me is not all 'fish' but a mix of fish (5 or so), and 4 guys who know the basics of poker but are not terribly skilled at it. You can manipulate these guys.

the problem with a table of all Fish is you cannot use any 'plays' on them as they do not know what any thing means nor what they should do. So, for example, you cannot bluff them off a winning hand by giving them improper odds to call.

In a table full of fish you are basically playing 'best hand' poker at the River as most hands are going to go that way. So you just have to play super tight, don't bluff, make sure you only go in to pots with premium hands and hope they hold at the river, as the fish is coming for you no matter the odds.

Playing 'best hand at the river' poker is no fun.

I love poker in Vegas. I wish I could go there more often. It's been eons...

I find poker in Borgata (Atlantic City) pretty tough. it's mostly all regulars and they all know each other unless there's a big tourney but it brings out all the local pros within a state or two radius.

 

[Fugazy]

Played yesterday 1/3 NL got in about 4 hours of play with breaks to stretch and hydrate.

My best play in a long time. Table was overall soft with a few regulars who are good players. Ended up +$550. A lot of small pots in the $20-$30 range, a couple of larger pots that were just over $100.

Had a swing about 2 hours in that saw me drop $100 or so off of my stack. Took a quick walk to get some air and think. Played some iffy hands out of position.

Cards weren't great either, a lot of suited gap and connecting cards that I got to play on the cheap (thanks to the soft table). From there I just tried to establish some control of the pot and dictate odds. I bet my way to a couple flushes, straights and boats.

2 hands are sticking in my craw where I think I could have played better. One had some serious potential, could have been worth up to $120-200. I flopped second pair with a King high flush draw, but the odds weren't there so I folded to a pot sized bet on the flop. Thing is that player was a bit of a dope, and I still feel like he was bluffing or semi-bluffing. I believe I made the correct play, but still...

If I really maximized all of my opportunities, I probably could have picked up another $200 or so. It was a good day, now all I want to do it read and take notes on it. I haven't had a session this smooth in a long time, I'm most proud of how I limited my mistakes throughout the day.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I love poker in Vegas. I wish I could go there more often. It's been eons...

I find poker in Borgata (Atlantic City) pretty tough. it's mostly all regulars and they all know each other unless there's a big tourney but it brings out all the local pros within a state or two radius.

I wish I could play more poker in Vegas but generally when I go to Vegas I am with other people and I don't like playing poker if I cannot play my grinding style with all day sessions so i won't play if I am not with someone who does not want to be at tables all day.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Played yesterday 1/3 NL got in about 4 hours of play with breaks to stretch and hydrate.

My best play in a long time. Table was overall soft with a few regulars who are good players. Ended up +$550. A lot of small pots in the $20-$30 range, a couple of larger pots that were just over $100.

Had a swing about 2 hours in that saw me drop $100 or so off of my stack. Took a quick walk to get some air and think. Played some iffy hands out of position.

Cards weren't great either, a lot of suited gap and connecting cards that I got to play on the cheap (thanks to the soft table). From there I just tried to establish some control of the pot and dictate odds. I bet my way to a couple flushes, straights and boats.

2 hands are sticking in my craw where I think I could have played better. One had some serious potential, could have been worth up to $120-200. I flopped second pair with a King high flush draw, but the odds weren't there so I folded to a pot sized bet on the flop. Thing is that player was a bit of a dope, and I still feel like he was bluffing or semi-bluffing. I believe I made the correct play, but still...

If I really maximized all of my opportunities, I probably could have picked up another $200 or so. It was a good day, now all I want to do it read and take notes on it. I haven't had a session this smooth in a long time, I'm most proud of how I limited my mistakes throughout the day.

Nice.

Those pots seem kind of small for the tables i would play at for a 1/3 NL game but I know it depends on the city, players and action.

I too judge a good day more by the lack of mistakes I make. I believe if I play my game optimally and avoid a couple big mistakes I can leave the table a winner most times. And any time you leave the table up, you dun good! If the worst discussion you are having after is 'how you could have made even more if...' that is a great discussion.

 

[SaiWa]

I wish I could play more poker in Vegas but generally when I go to Vegas I am with other people and I don't like playing poker if I cannot play my grinding style with all day sessions so i won't play if I am not with someone who does not want to be at tables all day.

I know what you mean.

I've been to Vegas 4 times. Once with family so I didn't get to gamble then and two other times with a bunch of people for bachelor parties. It was a grande time and I hardly slept because after all the partying would be done and people crashed I would hit the poker tables and grind away mostly drunk. I had unlimited amount of energy when I was younger and lived off alcohol. And my playstyle defaulted to tight but aggressive so it was great when my mind was on autopilot (too drunk or half asleep). both times I made enough money to pay for my the entire trip and then some (fuckin' paid a few extra bottles the following night for one of 'em") But I can't do that anymore.

The other time I went it was for work. Had to hit this area that was smack right in the middle of nowhere between Vegas and LA and I chose Vegas. I extended my trip and stayed in Vegas over the weekend and pokered away... it was glorious...

 

[MikeMcMann]

I know what you mean.

I've been to Vegas 4 times. Once with family so I didn't get to gamble then and two other times with a bunch of people for bachelor parties. It was a grande time and I hardly slept because after all the partying would be done and people crashed I would hit the poker tables and grind away mostly drunk. I had unlimited amount of energy when I was younger and lived off alcohol. And my playstyle defaulted to tight but aggressive so it was great when my mind was on autopilot (too drunk or half asleep). both times I made enough money to pay for my the entire trip and then some (fuckin' paid a few extra bottles the following night for one of 'em") But I can't do that anymore.

The other time I went it was for work. Had to hit this area that was smack right in the middle of nowhere between Vegas and LA and I chose Vegas. I extended my trip and stayed in Vegas over the weekend and pokered away... it was glorious...

ha nice.

a proper session for me can be almost 16 hours of play at tables in 24 hours with breaks for food and bathroom and a nap only. I don't drink at the tables and pay attention to every player and every move they do storing it for later. I stalk the guys who come to the table drunk or who are stuck and playing too long and aggressively hoping for a big score to win it all back. I live to exploit others mistakes. If I saw you coming in looking drunk I would try to change to your table and get seated to left and just wait. lol.

I took one trip to Vegas by myself just so I could play non stop poker. hard to make money when you stay at the Wynn and you count hotel and flight and food as part of your rake but I did pay for that trip, barely. I had one huge session playing 2/5 NL and made almost $4k when i was slightly down prior.

 

[Fugazy]

Nice.

Those pots seem kind of small for the tables i would play at for a 1/3 NL game but I know it depends on the city, players and action.

I too judge a good day more by the lack of mistakes I make. I believe if I play my game optimally and avoid a couple big mistakes I can leave the table a winner most times. And any time you leave the table up, you dun good! If the worst discussion you are having after is 'how you could have made even more if...' that is a great discussion.

Yeah we're talking Thursday 9am start, at night those pots would be larger and the crowd overall would be much more loose.

There was a lot of checking with good hands/draws and letting other players build the pot.

I got there just as the table opened, I took seat 1 immediately left of the dealer. There was a guy probably in his 70's in seat 5 directly across from me. The buy in is $100-$300, he opened with $300 and ran his stack up to about $750 within 90 minutes. I spent a lot of time trying to sneak into pots with him, lol. I think he caught on after a while and got pissed, he gave me a dirty look before he picked up his chips and left. He had a pretty good tell as to whether he liked his hands or not, pretty much 30 min in I could tell if he was going to call, raise or fold. I've never been able to read a player that well before.

I want to get back, but I have to be responsible. I'll probably play again in a week or 2.

 

[Execute]

nah he still plays. you can follow him on his instagram. they’re playing huge stakes in Bobby’s Room.

I saw him playing in Bobby's room recently with what appeared to be two escorts sitting bored on their phones. Dude is living the dream.

 

[Superbad]

I’ve always liked watching poker on tv but until recently I never tried playing. I’ve gone to a local casino twice here in AZ now. Lost 300 the first time. Came out 50 ahead the last. I would have been around 150 ahead but the Dbacks came back to tie it so I stayed longer.

I was 1 card away from getting the bad beats jack pot which I think 25k. I had 2 hearts and 4 of the 5 cards ended up being hearts. If one of them had been a 10 I would have had a straight flush, but another guy would have had the higher straight flush. Instead I got nothing lol. But it was a fun night I won a hand with pocket deuces. Flopped a 2 and another on the river.

 

[WalkenWouldOwn]

Have played a few more times the last few weeks. Myself and 3 friends all got back into it at the same time - unfortunately i'm the only one with kids lol so they can all play more than me. I have been playing pretty tight but no losing sessions yet, have made around $350 total across 4 sessions, not much just kinda grinding but have been pretty happy with my play.

Last time I was at a really shitty table. A mix of calling stations and a couple players who have never seen a playing card in their life, and i was completely fucking card dead for the duration while they were there. Bluffing was off the table because the guy to my immediate left would literally call down with anything so just had to be patient. Eventually I got rockets 2 hands in a row lol so made some money there but I wasn't even getting anything playable while the table was really ripe for the picking.

A friend of mine at the table was cleaning these guys out though - he's not even a good player just got a nice run of cards at the right time. So he had doubled his stack and was riding high with confidence.....and then this idiot gives every cent away lol

So he raised to around 30 pre flop and the guy next to him immediately goes all in. This guy had been very tight the entire time and showed no indication of having aggressive plays really. Just a good but fairly straightforward player. He was putting his stack of probably around $400 up against my friend who had around $380.

EVERYONE knew he had aces. It has never been more obvious in the history of poker someone had pocket aces lol. My friend tanks for a long time, actually says out loud "Man if you have a pair i'll need to catch something" - OF COURSE HE HAS A FUCKING PAIR! I'm across the table staring daggers at him trying to get him to fold lol, but he calls and turns over AK of hearts. Flop comes with 2 hearts to get his hopes up, but no other help and he busts. Everyone at the table just shocked he called for his entire stack there when it was so clear the guy had Aces. He buys back in for $100 and within 5 hands he gets dealt AK again lmao, and this complete fish at the table calls with 10 8 and gets a straight on the river. My friend Helmuth's him, screams some obscenities and leaves. Then the next time he went to play a few days later, almost an identical thing happened... he got up big quickly, got overconfident, and lost it all. Then on Sunday he won a tournment, first one he's ever played so now he's gonna have an artificial boost of confidence and it will probably go badly for him. He's definitely more of a gambler then a technical player and although he is intelligent, he also has no self awareness at all so he makes some bad decisions and then doesn't realize or correct his mistakes after.

Hoping I can play more this weekend!