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Bah. My PC has been on the fritz so I want to do a new build, but I can't just buy a new CPU knowing there is a brand new 6-core out there. Stupid paper launch.
you mean 8
Bah. My PC has been on the fritz so I want to do a new build, but I can't just buy a new CPU knowing there is a brand new 6-core out there. Stupid paper launch.
I wouldn't buy a new generation right away, I'd wait a little to make sure they get the bugs worked out.Bah. My PC has been on the fritz so I want to do a new build, but I can't just buy a new CPU knowing there is a brand new 6-core out there. Stupid paper launch.
If you're ready to build a new comp, then you're ready to do a clean install of Windows.Bah. My PC has been on the fritz so I want to do a new build, but I can't just buy a new CPU knowing there is a brand new 6-core out there. Stupid paper launch.
It's not a software issue I've already reformatted it. It's been shutting off and restarting with no warning for a while with no kind of crash log like it didn't even happen. My best theory has been the psu, mobo or the ssd. Most likely some kind of power issue.If you're ready to build a new comp, then you're ready to do a clean install of Windows.
Just mentioning that in the blind (not sure if these are hardware issues). Could buy you some time, or fix your issues altogether. It's a bitch, but there's nothing like building things back up from the ground up, and you're gonna do it anyway with a new build. It has the wonderful side effect of jettisoning everything that isn't actually important to you in the here and now when you rebuild. Machine always feels leaner and meaner when you come out of it.
Besides, this ain't like it used to be. All of our important shit and customizations are stored in the cloud, now. If you rebuild, don't have issues, and then suddenly re-experience issues after syncing all of that stuff, then you'll know something is rotten with those cloud services, and you'll have identified a problem that isn't unique to the machine.
Figured it was more serious, but also that there was no harm in sounding out a logical consideration.It's not a software issue I've already reformatted it. It's been shutting off and restarting with no warning for a while with no kind of crash log like it didn't even happen. My best theory has been the psu, mobo or the ssd. Most likely some kind of power issue.
Yeah... unfortunately I am pretty sure we are in for a long drought on these too. Newegg doesn't even have a notify me when in stock option for it, like they usually do for sold out items. There are rumors it won't even be available until next year. At which point, we will probably only be like 4-5 months away from their new 8 core processors...Figured it was more serious, but also that there was no harm in sounding out a logical consideration.
This is why it's nice to keep around an old shitbox you don't care about. You can test each component individually to see what still works. If the old shitbox gets fried by a bad component, oh well, it was a shitbox.
Also, agreed, it's 8600K+ or bust for you. What an agonizing time to have this sort of failure.
You could always buy one of the AIO CyberpowerPC or iBuyPower builds on Amazon, Wal-Mart, or Best Buy, and gut it for the internal components.Yeah... unfortunately I am pretty sure we are in for a long drought on these too. Newegg doesn't even have a notify me when in stock option for it, like they usually do for sold out items. There are rumors it won't even be available until next year. At which point, we will probably only be like 4-5 months away from their new 8 core processors...
I kind of hate supporting Intel for this reason, since their new CPU's probably won't support the mobo's that the 8000's series run on. Seems like almost every generation requires a mobo upgrade, which is kind of ridiculous
Yeah... unfortunately I am pretty sure we are in for a long drought on these too. Newegg doesn't even have a notify me when in stock option for it, like they usually do for sold out items. There are rumors it won't even be available until next year. At which point, we will probably only be like 4-5 months away from their new 8 core processors...
I kind of hate supporting Intel for this reason, since their new CPU's probably won't support the mobo's that the 8000's series run on. Seems like almost every generation requires a mobo upgrade, which is kind of ridiculous
I have a 3440x1440 monitor and I think it's the best thing ever. Honestly, I'll probably just suffer through it though. i have a laptop I can game on if it becomes completely unusable, which is the way it's headed as the crashes seem to get more frequent.I don't know what resolution you game at, but another option to Madmicks is to pick up something like a G4560 and a B350 board to pair with your current GPU to get you by until Coffee Lake supplies level off. With a G4560 and a 1050ti, I'm hitting at least 50fps at med-high settings at 1080 on most games. Here's the normal benchmarks.
B250 board for $42 AR and there's a Micro Center in Fairfax for the G4560 for $65. When it's time to sell, expect a 20% loss or keep it to make a 4k htpc machine.
@Madmick That's AMD fan boys for you. AMD does great with their marketing to that audience though with their "leaks" all the time.
edit: holy shit, I didn't realize it was that bad.
I don't think those are fanboys. I think that is corporate sabotage. This has been exposed many times in the Amazon review section beginning about 15 years ago with publishers raiding other publisher's novels and trashing the books.@Madmick That's AMD fan boys for you. AMD does great with their marketing to that audience though with their "leaks" all the time.
edit: holy shit, I didn't realize it was that bad.
I don't think it's AMD writing these reviews. AMD has always had a weird rabid fans base that pulls this type of stuff going back as far as I can remember. They're a lot like Apple fan boys, but they turn it up to 11.I don't think those are fanboys. I think that is corporate sabotage. This has been exposed many times in the Amazon review section beginning about 15 years ago with publishers raiding other publisher's novels and trashing the books.
But Intel are the obnoxious company this month. Don't paper launch. Just don't.
It might not be, but I don't know about that. I'm not sure I've noticed a stronger culture of fanboyism one way or the other, myself.I don't think it's AMD writing these reviews. AMD has always had a weird rabid fans base that pulls this type of stuff going back as far as I can remember. They're a lot like Apple fan boys, but they turn it up to 11.
AMD doesn't even really need to market anything, they could get away with "leaking" info and their fan base would a great job of spreading it on the Internet.
It's not a software issue I've already reformatted it. It's been shutting off and restarting with no warning for a while with no kind of crash log like it didn't even happen. My best theory has been the psu, mobo or the ssd. Most likely some kind of power issue.
People keep harping on AMD fanboyisum but AMD was the first to bring 64 bit microprocessor to market in fact Intel licensed the AMD 64 bit instructions from AMD. AMD also was the first to bring really decent level SOC's to market. There is still a rumor that Intel is still working with AMD to incorporate their Vega GPU architecture to an advance SOC module Intel is developing. People are wondering what VEGA inside means and if this is reference to AMD Vega GPU. So yeah obviously blatant fanboyisum.
http://wccftech.com/intel-mobile-processors-amd-vega-inside/
If they can bring that Ryzen 7 2700U to laptops that are ~$800 and under, maybe they would find a space, but I doubt it. Their top APU always ends up exclusively in laptops that start at $1K and above.A couple Ryzen mobile apu's have been revealed.
AMD Ryzen 7 2700U
# of CPU Cores - 4
# of Threads - 8
# of GPU Cores - 10
Base Clock Speed - 2.2GHz
Max Turbo Core Speed - 3.8GHz
Total L2 Cache - 2MB
Unlocked - No
CMOS - 14nm
PCI Express Version - PCIe 3.0
Default TDP / TDP - 15W
cTDP 12-25W
Graphics Frequency - 1300 MHz
Graphics Model - Radeon™ Vega¹⁰ Processor Graphics
Graphics Core Count - 10
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
# of CPU Cores - 4
# of Threads - 8
# of GPU Cores - 8
Base Clock Speed - 2GHz
Max Turbo Core Speed - 3.6GHz
Total L2 Cache - 2MB
Unlocked - No
CMOS - 14nm
PCI Express Version - PCIe 3.0
Default TDP / TDP - 15W
cTDP - 12-25W
Graphics Frequency - 1100 MHz
Graphics Model - Radeon™ Vega⁸ Processor Graphics
Graphics Core Count - 8
http://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-2700u
The gpu is the big question. It looks like it's going to be beefy, but who knows with AMD.If they can bring that Ryzen 7 2700U to laptops that are ~$800 and under, maybe they would find a space, but I doubt it. Their top APU always ends up exclusively in laptops that start at $1K and above.
The Intel i7-xxxxHQ series + NVIDIA GTX 10 Pascal Mobile offerings are just too damn strong for that-- with the Acer Predator Helios 300 @$1050 the clear benchmark to beat.
Problem is that clock for clock still has AMD trailing significantly; after all, the closest clock for clock analogue in the desktop world at stock would be the Ryzen 5 1500X to the i7-7700. Problem after that is that these chips haven't even debuted yet, so there true competitor won't be the i7-7700HQ, but the i7-8700HQ (or whatever they call the high-powered Cannon Lake mobile chip) once it drops.The gpu is the big question. It looks like it's going to be beefy, but who knows with AMD.
Clock for clock it's right there with the 7700hq but with a lower TDP, 45w vs 25w.
HBM2 supply has also been brought into question since Vega launched. Maybe they're holding back supply on the Vega 56 & 64 for these APU's. I'm assuming these chips are being targeted to ultra books.