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'vs boxing' as if 'boxing' is AJ.

AJ was the worst guy for Francis to fight. Which is why I accurately predicted a round 2 KO.

Much less impressive MMAers/K1 guys than Francis have had relative success in boxing. It's just at the very elite, there's a massive gap.

Getting smashed by AJ just means Francis joins the ranks of most people who have fought AJ.

Exactly. It always pisses me off that people act like AJ is average, when AJ on the right night is arguably the top HW of this era. Usyk and AJ are both incredible. Idk why people refuse to give credit where it is due without a guy being undefeated.
 
Who gives a single fuck about dodgy alphabet shenanigans?

Nobody serious would ever care. Whatever was going to make money was going to justify the ranking, that is all.
People that take rankings as anything other than rough estimates at best, but first and foremost marketing materials perplex me.
 
Exactly. It always pisses me off that people act like AJ is average, when AJ on the right night is arguably the top HW of this era. Usyk and AJ are both incredible. Idk why people refuse to give credit where it is due without a guy being undefeated.
The Ruiz KO dropped AJ's stock massively for casual fans that haven't gotten over it even after the shellacking afterwards. For many, he's still "The guy that got knocked out by that fat Mexican dude" up until tonight, where the casuals will see him as the Conqueror of Cameroon 🇨🇲
 
Got up a couple hundred dollars from AJ :D Odds should've never been this good, this is just like when Mayweather's odds got nearly too good to be true when casuals kept dumping money on McGregor lol.

Anyone else win any bets off the fight?


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Im probably just broke but I can never understand putting up 450 bucks like this for a chance to get 600 back.

That bonus 150 is not worth the slight chance Ngannau connected during the fight and won via upset, losing 450 bucks.

You're risking 3x the amount of the reward. I just dont get it.
 
Reminder : When Ngannou makes his debut in PFL later this year, and the current HW champ after the merger with Bellator is...



Not saying Ngannou is going to lose, just pointing out Ferreria has some serious KO power.
11 of his 13 wins are by KO/TKO.


Agreed. Let Ngannou do his job, he'll have some rough challenges waiting for him when he gets back to MMA (if he does).
 
Tyson Fury’s resume looking terrible now lmao. Remember when everyone was saying how he’s a freak and the best HW of all time not too long ago lmao
 
Reminder : When Ngannou makes his debut in PFL later this year, and the current HW champ after the merger with Bellator is...



Not saying Ngannou is going to lose, just pointing out Ferreria has some serious KO power.
11 of his 13 wins are by KO/TKO.

If someone wants to get ahead of the bookies, it's currently +425 on Ferreria on DK. I imagine Franks -575 will slide
 
Im probably just broke but I can never understand putting up 450 bucks like this for a chance to get 600 back.

That bonus 150 is not worth the slight chance Ngannau connected during the fight and won via upset, losing 450 bucks.

You're risking 3x the amount of the reward. I just dont get it.
Wait until you hear about casino odds
 
Oh yeah he would have.

Eh, there's a reasonable amount of MMA/boxing math-esque bullshit logic emerging in this thread. I would predict Zhang to get the early KO too, sure, but it's less of a slam dunk.

Go watch AJ murder Kevin Johnson in 2 rounds too. And then look up who Johnson went the distance with in his career.

AJ is not 40-year-old Zhang. Zhang and everyone else don't get to KO Francis in 2 rounds by proxy.
 
Eh, there's a reasonable amount of MMA/boxing math-esque bullshit logic emerging in this thread. I would predict Zhang to get the early KO too, sure, but it's less of a slam dunk.

Go watch AJ murder Kevin Johnson in 2 rounds too. And then look up who Johnson went the distance with in his career.

AJ is not 40-year-old Zhang. Zhang and everyone else don't get to KO Francis in 2 rounds by proxy.

I didn't say two rounds. All I stated was I believe Zhang would have knocked him out too. You can step off the soap box, bud.
 


Anthony Joshua reminded the masses that it only takes one shot at the heavyweight division.

To headline the all-day boxing showcase in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Anthony Joshua represented the sweet science against the marauding Francis Ngannou. The former Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight king acquitted himself extremely well in his pro boxing debut against Tyson Fury in 2023, but the same could not be said when he took on “AJ.” Joshua wasted little time putting the dangerous Ngannou on ice, dropping the MMA fighter twice before completely flattening him with a right hand in the second round.

Joshua (28-3, 25 KOs) only needed to score five power punches, according to Compubox numbers, to record three knockdowns in their heavyweight main attraction. Ngannou (0-2, 0 KOs) kept things close to start, jabbing the head and body early on while threatening with his ferocious left hand. The Brit retaliated by splitting the guard with a sharp right that sent “The Predator” crashing to the canvas. Ngannou used the entire count and rode out the remainder of the round while keeping Joshua at bay from finishing the job then and there.

While he had hit the floor once in the opening frame, Ngannou appeared to have recovered going into the second stanza. The former UFC king reached his foe several times, but Joshua was on a mission. “AJ” parried a few jabs and unloaded a right hand, stunning and ultimately knocking his Cameroonian counterpart to the mat for the second time. Ngannou shook his head and worked his way back upright, but his expression had changed. Joshua had his number. A few seconds later, Joshua wound up with a monstrous right hand, and Ngannou walked right into it. The event title “Knockout Chaos” proved prophetic, as Ngannou was unconscious before his head hit the ground. Referee Ricky Gonzalez broke off the count to wave off the match at 2:38 of Round 2, with Joshua leaving his opponent asking what happened after coming to.

Joshua picked up his 25th knockout as a pro by depriving Ngannou of his consciousness, and he called for a fight against Fury, despite Fury's already busy dance card with Oleksandr Usyk.


Related » Joshua-Ngannou Round-by-Round Scoring


Earlier on the main card, Joseph Parker (35-3, 23 KOs) fought through two knockdowns en route to an otherwise pedestrian majority decision (113-113, 114-112, 115-111) over Zhilei Zhang (26-2-1, 21 KOs) to claim the interim WBO heavyweight strap; Rey Vargas (36-1-1, 22 KOs) survived two knockdowns and retained his WBC featherweight crown by taking Nick Ball (19-0-1, 11 KOs) to a questionable split draw with scores of 114-112, 110-116 and 113-113; Israil Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) handed Magomed Kurbanov (25-1, 13 KOs) his first career defeat by forcing a standing TKO in the fifth round at 2:20, with Madrimov claiming the vacant WBA super welterweight belt; Mark Chamberlain (15-0, 11 KOs) ran roughshod over Gavin Gwynne (17-3-1, 5 KOs) until he put the fellow lightweight away with a seemingly never-ending salvo of body shots at 2:46 of Round 4; Justis Huni (9-0, 4 KOs) endured a late surge from Kevin Lerena (30-3, 14 KOs) to remain unbeaten after 10 rounds of heavyweight action, with two 96-94 scores and one at 98-92 all in his favor.

In preliminary action, Louis Greene (17-4, 11 KOs) put a stamp on Jack McGann (9-1-1, 6 KOs) with a blistering right hand 89 seconds into their super welterweight pairing; Roman Fury (4-0, 1 KO), younger brother of boxing great Tyson Fury, outpointed Martin Svarc (2-1, 1 KO) in their four-round heavyweight contest with a trio of 39-37 tallies; Ziyad Almaayouf (5-0, 1 KO) picked up a six-round decision against super lightweight foe Christian Lopez Flores (14-36-2, 12 KOs) with three matching 60-54 scores; the night began with heavyweight Andrii Novytskyi (10-0, 9 KOs) putting Juan Torres (11-6-1, 4 KOs) away in the third round with a barrage at the 2:43 mark.
 
Im probably just broke but I can never understand putting up 450 bucks like this for a chance to get 600 back.

That bonus 150 is not worth the slight chance Ngannau connected during the fight and won via upset, losing 450 bucks.

You're risking 3x the amount of the reward. I just dont get it.

It's about value. If someone offers you -300 on something and you deem the true odds should be -1000, it's a great bet to make.

What if you could go back in time and bet Mayweather at -200/300 vs McGregor? You'd be getting 33% ish return on your money in under an hour when Floyd should've been at least -1000 / 1500 ish for that fight, that would've been a solid bet all things considered.
 
Didn't like when this fight got made. Ngannou did well in the Fury fight because fury came in sloppier and weaker than ever and couldn't hurt him. Joshua obviously had more than enough power. Joshua's pull counter has been nasty in his last few fights.
 
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I was surprised that AJ looked so physically strong in there when they tied-up. He's a beast of a specimen but Ngannou is known for his freakish strength. Ngannou was able to bully Fury but he couldn't budge AJ.
 
Dude on sky sports post fight now saying top 5 is currently 1.Fury 2.Usyk 3.Parker 4.Joshua 5.Zhang. Don't hate it.
Who should Zhang face next?
In before "the scale".
 
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