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Too bad the US government did not pass sanctions against Russia for their bad behavior.
Too bad the US government did not pass sanctions against Russia for their bad behavior.
Anyone from the UK know anything about this facility? Thought its proximity to this event should at least be mentioned.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_CBRN_Centre
The Defence Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Centre (the Defence CBRN Centre or DCBRNC for short) is a United Kingdom military facility at Winterbourne Gunner in Wiltshire, south of Porton Down and about 4 miles (6 km) northeast of Salisbury. It is a tri-service location, with the Royal Air Force being the lead service. The centre is responsible for all training issues relating to chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) defence and warfare for the UK's armed forces.
Shouldn't May consider the possibility of a connection here, or at least release the evidence pointing to Russian involvement?
Porton Down has a couple govt labs as well:
Porton Down is a United Kingdom science park, situated just northeast of the village of Porton near Salisbury, in Wiltshire, England. It is home to two UK Government facilities: a site of the Ministry of Defence's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) – known for over 100 years as one of the UK's most secretive and controversial military research facilities, occupying 7,000 acres (2,800 ha)[1] – and a site of Public Health England.[2] It is also home to other private and commercial science organisations, and is expanding to attract other companies.
The site is commonly confused with the nearby chemical-biological-radiological-nuclear (CBRN) training facility, the Defence CBRN Centre at Winterbourne Gunner.
That's a pretty weak argument.
Nobody ever said they should give all the evidence away to Russia. That's downright idiotic to think that.
Libya under Gadaffi also killed a British female police officer on the streets of London, gave financial support to the IRA and was responsible for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie. With the loss of 270 people. So my sympathy for the Libyans is somewhat mitigated.
The U.S. has killed tons of people on the streets of tons of cities, give financial and military support to all sorts of terrorist groups, and are responsible for shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 which killed 290 people.
So, where's the dead American president being paraded through streets by terrorists?
The Russians are demanding samples of the nerve agent.
To be honest, it's just posturing on the part of the Russians.
None of those acts were a direct attack on my country.
So? It's not like the U.K. government wouldn't still have samples of their own. What are they afraid of by not releasing the evidence? Being proven wrong?
It's just posturing on both sides..... because like Russia said, they have nukes. But so does England. So they'll just trade words, state department officials will have lunch together, and nothing will really happen.
The Russians will, "test" the sample, then claim it was not made in a Russian lab. They are just trying to muddy the waters.
Not directly.
There's no proof that Gadaffi is behind the attack to begin with.
And maybe the UK doesn't want Russia to have access to the sample because they will be proven innocent, which is why they're proclaiming them guilty without giving any evidence (much like the Syria gas attacks).
That works both ways.
You mean apart from Gadaffi accepting responsibility for the attack and paying compensation to the relatives of some of the victims in 2003?
That's a pretty weak argument.
Nobody ever said they should give all the evidence away to Russia. That's downright idiotic to think that.
Claiming responsibility and actually ordering it to be done are two separate things.
He always denied ordering it to be done.
And maybe the UK doesn't want Russia to have access to the sample because they will be proven innocent, which is why they're proclaiming them guilty without giving any evidence (much like the Syria gas attacks).
That works both ways.
Russia is Mafia state. Britain, for all it's faults, is a democracy. Even were I a neutral observer, it would be an easy call as to who I would tend to believe.
Russia is a Mafia state. Britain, for all it's faults, is a democracy. Even were I a neutral observer, it would be an easy call as to who I would tend to believe.
But why would the UK claim it was Russia when that is not correct.
There is no upside for the UK out of this. They would prefer if it wasn't Russia.
Same as I can't imagine the Russian wanted this to go down this way with so much exposure.
Something must have gone wrong somewhere.
The United States is a democracy and yet they completely lied about WMDs in Iraq and invaded the country on those lies.
So why are democracies so inherently believable? Because CNN says so?
Also, there is no reason for the UK to blame Russia for it if they aren't sure.
Like on top of all the trouble the UK has at the moment. The last thing they need is a diplomatic crisis with Russia.
It just doesn't make any sense for any logical thinking person.