Should Fedor have quit at 32 years old

[TUFNewb]

I consider GSP retired at 32. He didn't fight anyone for 4 years then had 1 fight. If Bisping wasn't holding a belt GSP would still have never fought. You know this, that's why GSP quit again.

So how many times does gsp need to fight again for you to conclude he did not quit?

Fedor fought many cans during his prime and then ducked the ufc. That is much worse than taking a few years off after cleaning out a legit division repeatedly.

Big difference between TRT Hendo in 2011 and 2017 Bisping.

TRT Hendo was the Strikeforce LHW champ and hit like a truck.

Bisping doesn't have anywhere near that type of punching power.

That was also the smallest and most flabby we have ever seen Fedor look when he lost to Hendo. He obviously was not the same fighter as he was a few years before. Hendo on the other hand was jacked up on legal TRT and looked bigger than ever

Sorry but being so out of shape at 36 years old as a pro athlete is not a good excuse for losing a fight. It is his responsibility to show up as the best version of himself possible. That's what the greats consistently do.

Dan was literally a middle aged man who had spent most of his career fighting at mw. I guess Rousimar must have a godly chin because he ate punches that turned Fedor into a stuffed turkey.

If Fedor was as incredible as his fans believe him to to be, he would have been able to at least accomplish something similar to what jake fricken shields was able to do. Dan wasn't some unstoppable killing machine lmao... He's 4-7 since he slept fedor.

Gsp never needed excuses to justify poor performances. He simply beat everyone they put in front of him. That's why he is the best.

Fedor is good, just not THE best.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Hendo's career was revived by TRT around that time. Fedor was past his best days. That was the smallest and flabbiest Fedor we have ever seen. He was obviously not training like he did 10 years prior. Still doesn't take away from what he accomplished 2000 to 2010.



He dropped 3 straight after being undefeated for 10 years. Who else goes 10 years unbeaten? Everyone else loses in their first 10 years and then start declining. Fedor didn't even lose until 2010.



If you actually watched MMA and Fedor's career you would have known he started looking slower and sloppier toward the end of his run. He was still beating Arlovski and Rogers despite appearing slower and with less muscle mass. It wasn't overnight. It was a few years in the making. Best Fedor is 2000 to 2005. He looked uninterested and unmotivated after Cro Cop and then broke his hand again on Zulu. He took a lot of time off and looked slower after that. Hl



Maybe he was. Maybe they were. At least it wasn't against the rules like when Jones fucked over DC.

No shame in getting KO'ed by TRT Hendo. At least it wasn't LW Matt Serra



Fedor fought MANY fighters bigger than him. I doubt he was heavier than half his opponents. That must be an old stat because his last several opponents have all been bigger.

Fedor made millions to fight Singh. He was already way past his prime. You act like GSP is so tough for beating Bisping and vacating. Truth is GSP is past his prime just like Fedor and knows that was his only winnable fight in 2017.



He definitely got out of shape. As for the headhunting and brawling I believe that is injuries and just trying to be more efficient by striking instead of forcing grappling. Same thing as Hendo and Rampage. They got older and stopped using their grappling. They developed confidence in KO power and it just uses less energy to strike with someone than try to clinch, force a takedown and work a scramble at a high pace.


Wow. Just shows how much you know about the sport to discredit all those wins. Fedor beat Nog in 2003 and 2004 when Nog was the best fighter in the world. Big difference from 2008 Zombie Nog. A lot can change in 5 years. You really think Jones and GSP will accomplish anything in the cage in 2023? Lol

It’s not hard to discredit when I’m bringing facts. Best win is Nog but he was only interim champ and was kod in the next fight by frank after winning it. AA is a good win but he is chinny. Sylvia was out of his prime and we both know that. Randleman was a gatekeeper, Serra of the hw division. Coleman is a gatekeeper, has like 1 good win in igor. Rizzo lol

 

[Krimzon]

Dan Henderson was once asked who the goat was. His answer: Fedor

 

[MyEnglishIsPeperoni]

So how many times does gsp need to fight again for you to conclude he did not quit?

Fedor fought many cans during his prime and then ducked the ufc. That is much worse than taking a few years off after cleaning out a legit division repeatedly.



Sorry but being out of shape at 32 years old as a pro athlete is not a good excuse for losing a fight. It is his responsibility to show up as the best version of himself possible. That's what the greats consistently do.

Dan was literally a middle aged man who had spent most of his career fighting at mw. I guess Rousimar must have a godly chin because he ate punches that turned Fedor into a stuffed turkey.

If Fedor was as incredible as his fans believe him to to be, he would have been able to at least accomplish something similar to what jake fricken shields was able to do. Dan wasn't some unstoppable killing machine lmao... He's 4-7 since he slept fedor.

Gsp never needed excuses to justify poor performances. He simply beat everyone they put in front of him. That's why he is the best.

Fedor is good, just not THE best.

stopped here.
joined 2009.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Well if everybody knows it should be easy to provide documentation supporting your shit argument. Not that it matters, keep trolling like you do and you will end up like @DaPunkMinowahMan and banned. Only a matter of time.

You sound shook.

Probably will spend the next 4 years of Jones' suspension hating on Fedor lmao

 

[Krimzon]

If Fedor was as incredible as his fans believe him to to be.

GSP is the biggest fedor nuthugger

 

[JBJISGOAT]

You sound shook.

Probably will spend the next 4 years of Jones' suspension hating on Fedor lmao

Haha can’t provide the documentation eh?? Because it doesn’t exist. Thanks for playing.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Show the test results, if not it’s not fact…just like fedor was probably roided over seas since his 4-5 record on us soil but I can’t come up with the test results so it’s not fact….

Go look it up. Everyone knows he got on TRT before the Wanderlei rematch and was on it until it was banned.

Record on US soil? He won his first 4 fights on US soil. He obviously got worse over time just like any other fighter that fights that long.

So how many times does gsp need to fight again for you to conclude he did not quit?

Fedor fought many cans during his prime and then ducked the ufc. That is much worse than taking a few years off after cleaning out a legit division repeatedly.



Sorry but being so out of shape at 36 years old as a pro athlete is not a good excuse for losing a fight. It is his responsibility to show up as the best version of himself possible. That's what the greats consistently do.

Dan was literally a middle aged man who had spent most of his career fighting at mw. I guess Rousimar must have a godly chin because he ate punches that turned Fedor into a stuffed turkey.

If Fedor was as incredible as his fans believe him to to be, he would have been able to at least accomplish something similar to what jake fricken shields was able to do. Dan wasn't some unstoppable killing machine lmao... He's 4-7 since he slept fedor.

Gsp never needed excuses to justify poor performances. He simply beat everyone they put in front of him. That's why he is the best.

Fedor is good, just not THE best.

Fedor beat almost all the top HWs. He fought in PRIDE, Affliction and Strikeforce who all had a better HW division than UFC. The UFC never had the best HW division until Fedor was past his prime.

Nobody is making excuses for the Hendo fight other than Hendo hits hard and was on TRT. He caught Fedor right underneath the chin from behind. All kinds of punches can KO you especially when you don't see them coming. That was the smallest and most out of shape we have ever seen Fedor. Only weighed 223 pounds. Had that fight happened a few years earlier we all know Fedor likely would have subbed Hendo. But in 2010 Fedor didn't care anymore and Hendo was jacked up on legal Testosterone.

GSP never needed excuses? What about the first Serra fight? You hate on a declined Fedor for losing to TRT Hendo who hits like a truck but what sbout 27 year old champion GSP tapping to strikes from Lightweight Matt Serra?

GSP was awesome but he lost twice in his first 10 years and retired at 32 after struggling with Hendricks.

Fedor was undefeated until 33.

Only difference is Fedor kept fighting dangerous opponents past that age of 32. GSP only came back to fight Bisping. Had GSP kept fighting like Fesor did he likely would have lost a few

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Go look it up. Everyone knows he got on TRT before the Wanderlei rematch and was on it until it was banned.

Record on US soil? He won his first 4 fights on US soil. He obviously got worse over time just like any other fighter that fights that long.



Fedor beat almost all the top HWs. He fought in PRIDE, Affliction and Strikeforce who all had a better HW division than UFC. The UFC never had the best HW division until Fedor was past his prime.

Nobody is making excuses for the Hendo fight other than Hendo hits hard and was on TRT. He caught Fedor right underneath the chin from behind. All kinds of punches can KO you especially when you don't see them coming. That was the smallest and most out of shape we have ever seen Fedor. Only weighed 223 pounds. Had that fight happened a few years earlier we all know Fedor likely would have subbed Hendo. But in 2010 Fedor didn't care anymore and Hendo was jacked up on legal Testosterone.

GSP never needed excuses? What about the first Serra fight? You hate on a declined Fedor for losing to TRT Hendo who hits like a truck but what sbout 27 year old champion GSP tapping to strikes from Lightweight Matt Serra?

GSP was awesome but he lost twice in his first 10 years and retired at 32 after struggling with Hendricks.

Fedor was undefeated until 33.

Only difference is Fedor kept fighting dangerous opponents past that age of 32. GSP only came back to fight Bisping. Had GSP kept fighting like Fesor did he likely would have lost a few

I know there is no documentation that he was on trt therefore it’s not fact. Sorry bud that’s how it Goes.

4-5 on us soil…fact

 

[Typrune Goatley]

I know there is no documentation that he was on trt therefore it’s not fact. Sorry bud that’s how it Goes.

4-5 on us soil…fact

I am your bus driver every day

ESPN article interviewing Hendo himself:

http://www.espn.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/2991/hendo-trt-user-since-2007-speaks-on-use


4-5 record? Fact? Try 4-4. Fedor won his first 4 and then got worse over time just like all fighters. The last loss was at almost 41 years old. Where is this 5th loss on US soil? Quit lying, troll.

You think GSP could beat Eryk Anders at 40 years old? You think Jones could win at 40 with or without roids?

 

[Calipwnia]

So how many times does gsp need to fight again for you to conclude he did not quit?

So how many times does gsp need to fight again for you to conclude he did not quit?

He needs to fight more than 1 cherry picked fight every 5 years, that's for sure. He said he was coming back to make a MW run. Then he ran from real contenders. It really shows how he was still in retirement, but ready to "fight again" if some easy money popped up. He knows when to quit, it's one of his best qualities.

 

[FighterAndThePrick]

He should stop asap

 

[Perrichet]

He needs to fight more than 1 cherry picked fight every 5 years, that's for sure. He knows when to quit, it's one of his best qualities

Eh, he could always come back and fight the equivalent of Maldanado and Mitrione

 

[SuperNerd]

Lol

TS is a just a lousy, low tier human being who found MMA a couple weeks ago.

Go away fuckstick.

 

[HendoIsChamp]

He needs to fight more than 1 cherry picked fight every 5 years, that's for sure. He said he was coming back to make a MW run. Then he ran from real contenders. It really shows how he was still in retirement, but ready to "fight again" if some easy money popped up. He knows when to quit, it's one of his best qualities.

One of the best. Being goat is GSPs best quality though.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

I am your bus driver every day

ESPN article interviewing Hendo himself:

http://www.espn.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/2991/hendo-trt-user-since-2007-speaks-on-use


4-5 record? Fact? Try 4-4. Fedor won his first 4 and then got worse over time just like all fighters. The last loss was at almost 41 years old. Where is this 5th loss on US soil? Quit lying, troll.

You think GSP could beat Eryk Anders at 40 years old? You think Jones could win at 40 with or without roids?

Didn’t read that he was on trt for fedor fight. Refernced using it since 2007 but didn’t say he was on it for that particular fight and there is no tests to back it up…fact!

Correction 4-4, thanks for that. What a great record lol. Maybe he was on roids back in the day winning since he came over here and got wrekt! I can’t prove it but makes you think.

Keep trying.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Eh, he could always come back and fight the equivalent of Maldanado and Mitrione

Fedor was 40 years old in those fights.

When did GSP ever fight someone that hits as hard as those guys? Maybe Hendricks and Spratt.

Best strikers GSP ever fought were Spratt, Diaz, Condit, Hendricks, Bisping. Not bad but Fedor fought Hunt, Cro Cop, Schilt, Arlovski, Sylvia.

Fedor obviously fought more dangerous guys his whole career even until he was 40. GSP left as soon as it got tough with Hendricks at 32 years old and only cherry picked Bisping since. That is fine with GSP. It is his life but don't hold Fedor's losses against him. He didn't retire at 32 like GSP did

Jones ducked Rumble.

 

[vcmmafan]

Michael Jordan was mediocre for the Wizards at the end of his career , greatness is measured by the entire body of work , not what happens in the twilight.

What were his numbers each year there? And what do you consider mediocre?

 

[SherdogFan23]

He should have stopped before going into Strikeforce. It is obvious that he started pushing his striking heavily with less grappling / ground game / submissions at this point.

He is still the top GOAT IMO. The question of who is best comes down to how you apply the rule. Do you do retirement garbage and paper champ crap on one side (GSP) or do you push your career as far as possible (Fedor). Fedor beats everyone else in his prime versus their prime. He tried for finishes in every fight and nobody is even close on this area to him.

 

[Franc Mittelo]

like GSP did? He always faced bigger guys but he went on a skid at that age. Quitting worked for GSP to retain legacy. Was Fedor past his prime at that point like GSP recognized and stopped fighting? I admire Fedor for continuing to challenge himself and dare to be great. Always fighting in a division where he was outsized but to be the greatest of all time, do you have to quit at the right time?

Stipe is like 34
DC is like 38
GSP was like 36 and Bisping was like 38
Woodley is like 35

All these guys are champions passed age 32. Stop making excuses for Fedor for failing inside the cage under unified rules. LOL

The guy smashed Rogers, and he was submitted by Werdum, so what is this "damage" that you fanboys are talking about? LOL

He is a can in the cage under unified rules. LOL

2-4 with one very suspicious victory. LOL