Vendetta: State Of Colorado Goes After Cake Maker Jack Phillips Again

[GetTheseHands]

 

[Ripskater]

It will get worse Truth, and you should know that.

Without God intervening, no doubt it will.

 

[Ripskater]

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[GetTheseHands]

This is a clear-cut vendetta but people aren't going to be fooled by the media like they were last time.

 

[godking]

I despise religious zealots but i despise cowardly bullies even more. Regardless of your views of Phillips this is an obvious attempt to either break him or bankrupt him.

And as others have pointed out they won,t go after a muslim baker if he refused to make a cake for exactly the same reason.

Instead going after "easy" targets.

This is a personal vendetta nothing more.

 

[method115]

I have to admit it's amusing and even a little satisfying to see our resident Christians complaining so hard and trying to find a way to pretend that this isn't just plainly illegal.

I don't know starts to get a little weird when we start forcing people to make things they don't want to make and personally I'm not comfortable doing it. How far do we take that? Do we force painters to paint gay couples even if they aren't ok with that? Do we force them to paint pedophilia art?

 

[Prokofievian]

I want to put a cake order in to this bakery that's so absurdly, pornographically gay that it makes the most pro LGBT person think twice about it.

Bowie, Mercury, George Michaels, human centipede style.

 

[Ripskater]

 

[nhbbear]

Personally, I would make the cakes and gain a new group of customers. I just can’t see the objection he would have to someone celebrating a joyous occasion with one of my cakes.

However, I strongly believe in his right to not make a cake for whatever reason he would want to. There should be no government forcing this man to make a cake for someone. That is just so damn absurd to me. And if he refuses a customer for whatever reason, the he loses business, but he should not be subjected to any government oversight. That is overstepping the bounds of government. And this latest snafu is a purposeful attempt by a lawyer to try and get a lawsuit. There is no right to get a fucking cake. Fuck off and let the man get sanctioned by boycott, but not government intervention.

 

[Otto!]

There is no need for court involvement in this. This is not a government agency refusing to rpovide a service, it’s a business. If people don’t like his business practices, they should just take their business elsewhere.

 

[squeezewax]

I want to see what happens when a muslim refuses their services to someone from the gay community.
If this guy was a muslim there would be lots of people on the left defending the muslim.
All because no one wants to piss off a muslim or be called islamophobic, the reason being fear.

I am an atheist however i support this guy. If someone identifies as a christian they obviously believe what is in their holy book, just like a muslim does when it comes to the koran.
I suppose critics of the baker would say certain things in the bible are outdated or irrelevant for these days?
They wouldn't dare tell the same thing to a muslim, would they?

A christian cannot practice christianity in a christian-based society.
The bible & the koran state that homosexuality & other 'unnatural' things are wrong, so what is the guy supposed to do?

 

[rearnakedchoke]

So a guy bakes cakes and is against gays? Weird.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

omg just make the cake you fuckin' twit.

it's not like he's being asked to draw a giant dick on the cake. pink on the inside and blue on the outside. he can pretend its a cake for smurfette.

Yeah fuck freedom.

 

[Slick_36]

As a Christian who supported him when it came to the wedding cake, it's hard for me to take up for him here. It's a stupid request, but it's as basic as a cake gets and isn't religious in any way. It just comes off as petty.

 

[HomerThompson]

If this guy was a muslim there would be lots of people on the left defending the muslim.

What proof do you have to back up this statement?

 

[Fawlty]

Personally, I would make the cakes and gain a new group of customers. I just can’t see the objection he would have to someone celebrating a joyous occasion with one of my cakes.

However, I strongly believe in his right to not make a cake for whatever reason he would want to. There should be no government forcing this man to make a cake for someone. That is just so damn absurd to me. And if he refuses a customer for whatever reason, the he loses business, but he should not be subjected to any government oversight. That is overstepping the bounds of government. And this latest snafu is a purposeful attempt by a lawyer to try and get a lawsuit. There is no right to get a fucking cake. Fuck off and let the man get sanctioned by boycott, but not government intervention.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 BTFO

 

[Lord Coke]

Transvestites aren't transgenders, and fashion changes so radically that what they wore as men's clothing comes closer, by modern standards, to a woman's dress. Furthermore, if the transgender person isn't yet transgender, and isn't cross-dressing when he/she orders, then even this religious text is irrelevant.

Finally, the freedom to practice religion doesn't supersede secular law. We are not a Christian nation. We are a secular nation composed mostly of Christians (for now, at least). We cannot tolerate a precedent that allows a Muslim to refuse service to a Christian because anyone who isn't a Muslim is an "infidel". We must manage a common space.

The best defense of the baker, here, is my previously forwarded arguments about custom orders. It preserves both the CRA and the freedom of religion. It really is a finely-balanced and highly creative compromise. I'm quite proud of it.

That is a valid point but there has to be a limit. Are you going to make a gay baker make a anti gay cake? Is a jew going to be forced to bake a nazi cake? There maybe the need to have some public accommodation but I think there is a countervailing public policy interest in letting people stay away from people and behavior that they find morally repugnant.

 

[44nutman]

The Wasteland Observor is reporting someone went in and ordered a Dallas Cowboy cake. The owner refused saying he does not make Gay Cakes

 

[M3t4tr0n]

The Wasteland Observor is reporting someone went in and ordered a Dallas Cowboy cake. The owner refused saying he does not make Gay Cakes

Cowboy fans btfo!

 

[Bargey]

I think this is what lawyers refer to as ‘malicious prosecution’

They are liable to a hefty counter suit that SCOTUS will ultimately uphold if it gets there.