PS. Both those dudes are high IQ and come from a different perspective than either you, me, or Jack. They're both as smart or smarter than you or I. I've no fanbase, unlike Jack. Nobody following the debate has come to his defense. I have these two in my camp. And you're gonna accuse me of trolling based on your disagreement?
I'm not taking JVS's "side," nor am I putting any stock in your supporter tally. I am calling out
you disingenuously posting things because you're in a tizzy: namely that JVS is intentionally obfuscating and that "smart people" can see it, despite your position only being explicitly cosigned by one poster, who is frankly not exceedingly intelligent in my opinion and
certainly not exceedingly rational or intellectually honest. But, invigorated by your cattiness, I did take the time to look over your disagreement, and starting
here you began very clearly arguing dishonestly, as you backtracked on the previous posts and, amid a tentative agreement, tried to slyly substitute in a different position, that JVS was in agreement about the claim of racial minority status. Actually, even before that, starting
here you pretty clearly walked up to the edge of the cliff on your argument (that Warren had putatively checked a "'race' box," which
would reflect a self-designation as a racial minority, rather than a claim of remote ancestry giving some color of diversity) without even realizing it.
Also, Gandhi would seem to be purporting to agree with you as a matter of political optics, not as a matter of the internal logic of your argument. On that basis, you could put Kafir-Kun on the opposing side. And I personally think
@Kafir-kun is more or less equal to one
@Gandhi =)