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This guy is all like,
memes = fail. Just like your life = fail.
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This guy is all like,
BTW, those were signed under law by George W. Bush. Not sure why they're called Obama phones.
How dare you denigrate 2,000 years of beautiful Confederate history?
memes = fail. Just like your life = fail.
If it doesn't affect you in your personal life, how can you possibly give a shit??
Right-wingers gonna right wing I guess. They simply cannot wrap their heads around the notion of caring about anything other than themselves. This actually explains a lot.
Right-wingers gonna right wing I guess. They simply cannot wrap their heads around the notion of caring about anything other than themselves. This actually explains a lot.
Have you read.....anything about his tax proposals? Did you read the AHCA?
Like, this isn't really a debate. The fact that you find it so funny is kind of frightening.
And, yeah, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and by no mean shifted enough revenue responsibility onto the highest brackets. Even if other proposals, such as the ACA, disproportionately burdened the rich, the middle class still pays far more than its fair share in comparison. Trump through his income tax plan and healthcare plan would absolutely exceed that, though, and there's not really any ambiguity about it.
Except they care if other people want abortions, to marry someone of the same gender, or to smoke pot. Yet you aren't allowed to care about environmental impacts from removing regulations that exist because of how openly industry was polluting for profit.
Have you.... paid any attention to taxation over the last decade? that really isn't a debate either.
Obamacare burdened the rich? That statement just makes my argument for me. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, or you're a young kid who has fallen for the Obama era restructuring of language and social classification. Anyone who actually lived a Middle Class lifestyle prior to Obama is now "The Rich" while the lower spectrum of the working class and the poor are now "The Middle Class", while the actual Rich aren't affected at all. Obamacare and Obama's tax policies drug Middle Class America over the coals and back again so many times it's not funny. If you think Obamacare was harder on rich people than the Middle Class you might want to read some of that again.
I'm sure it'll get more likes than any of your posts in this thread.
Obama didn't change the tax code lol?
There was a slight increase on the wealthy for ACA and some luxury taxes also for the ACA.
The tax code otherwise is the same as when he got into office.
Oh, that's right. Obamacare as a whole was next to insignificant.
Most Americans have jobs with employer provided health care that is exponentially cheaper than individual plans on the market.
What has Trump done to you personally through his legislation that causes so much childish reactions? I can't think of a single thing that would cause this. I watched his speech tonight, it was like a promo for pro wrestling. It was fine, then everyone is reacting poorly on the media and now I realize they act just like you do. Can you specify what's happened to you personally that made you so unreasonable?
It wouldn't be true even if you'd stopped at jobs.Most Americans have jobs with employer provided health care that is exponentially cheaper than individual plans on the market.
Honestly, do you support any of those indefensible policies? How many times do they need to be discussed before you credit them as bona fide policy grievances and drop this whole "they actually like him but THEY ARE PC" shtick?
Have you.... paid any attention to taxation over the last decade? that really isn't a debate either.
Obamacare burdened the rich? That statement just makes my argument for me. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, or you're a young kid who has fallen for the Obama era restructuring of language and social classification. Anyone who actually lived a Middle Class lifestyle prior to Obama is now "The Rich" while the lower spectrum of the working class and the poor are now "The Middle Class", while the actual Rich aren't affected at all. Obamacare and Obama's tax policies drug Middle Class America over the coals and back again so many times it's not funny. If you think Obamacare was harder on rich people than the Middle Class you might want to read some of that again.
Yeah, I already ceded and addressed that in my last paragraph. Believe it or not, not every criticism of a Republican is defense of a Democrat. You can be critical of both. Obama didn't do enough to shift the tax burden onto the rich and off the middle class. That doesn't make Trump reversing what little he did okay.
Practically, no. Proportionally, yes. That gets to the heart of the discussion: that nominal tax rates are secondary to their practical application in wealth distribution and revenue creation.
It's unarguable that repeal of the ACA benefits the rich and hurts the middle and lower class.
Forbes: Obamacare Repeal Results In Tax Cuts For The Rich; Tax Increases And Lost Insurance For The Rest
You're basically arguing that, because Obama policies didn't tax the rich more and grant more relief to the middle class, we should go in the opposite direction. That's nonsensical. You're arguing partisan nonsense.
Yeah, crucial enviornmental regulations like "if rain collects in certian spots frequently and birds happen to congregate there as a result, it's now a wetland and it belongs to the government, even it sits on your land".