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Have you looked at the map of gun violence?Take away 4 cities and we drop to 4th from the bottom
It's not firearms.
citation needed
Have you looked at the map of gun violence?Take away 4 cities and we drop to 4th from the bottom
It's not firearms.
If I show it to you....would you even believe it?citation needed
If I show it to you....would you even believe it?
Damn dude go fondle your boyfriend.....I didn't say I wouldn't make citations.I just said you wouldn't believe them....perhaps ask your partner to read for you....This one is a little old but still applicable.I think based on your last posts we've reached the point where the discussion isn't really progressing. I wrote a lengthy post which you chose to intepret as drink drivers, and now you make claims and won't provide facts and worse, question the integrity of the person you are discussing it with. I don't believe you are honestly interested in a conversation about the subject and I will instead respond to other people who are more involved. I appreciate the talk so far, thanks.
So do you feel that American gun ownership is inherently reprehensible or do you feel that even with as many Americans as we have owning guns it would be less of a problem if more Americans changed their relationship with guns? I would think that even the majority of NRA types understand conceptually that guns are not toys in any sense of the manner; that said, maybe it really is only a small minority that has the issues here.
....are you guys denying that there isn't a segment of the population that obsesses over their guns?
The US’s version of capitalism is what will kill the USA. It had bred greed and corruption. The worse has yet to come.I made this post in the Florida thread, and thought maybe it deserved it's own.
I'm pretty sure that it is a widely accepted fact that while household firearm ownership has been dropping, gun sales have been up in the last 30+ years because fewer people are stockpiling more and more weapons than they used to. I have seen arguments that this was the result of a marketing campaign by the gun industry (in response to falling household ownership (profits) in the 70's) to target their hardcore buyers by offering more options, interchangeable parts, colors, specialty guns, etc., creating a fetish of sorts.
I don't think anyone would disagree that we live in a hyper-consumeristic society, and, along with social media and the Internet, ultimately leads us to shorter and shorter attention spans. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this would then result in a much higher prevalence of compulsive behaviors. These people then seek treatment, and voila, we have a significant portion of the population on psychotropic medications.
You now have a portion of the population who are big time gun enthusiasts/borderline fetishists, have 2-second attention spans, are OCD, and on some kind of behavior altering medications.
Whether it's romanticizing guns in Soldier of Fortune magazines, adding a new colorful handle for the "sport shooting" crowd, Doctors prescribing meds, pharma corporations pushing those meds, or consumerism in general, it's all driven by the desire to improve the bottom line. Capitalism.
So is capitalism partly to blame?
I don't know if "capitalism" fully sums up our society's (I'm English).I made this post in the Florida thread, and thought maybe it deserved it's own.
I'm pretty sure that it is a widely accepted fact that while household firearm ownership has been dropping, gun sales have been up in the last 30+ years because fewer people are stockpiling more and more weapons than they used to. I have seen arguments that this was the result of a marketing campaign by the gun industry (in response to falling household ownership (profits) in the 70's) to target their hardcore buyers by offering more options, interchangeable parts, colors, specialty guns, etc., creating a fetish of sorts.
I don't think anyone would disagree that we live in a hyper-consumeristic society, and, along with social media and the Internet, ultimately leads us to shorter and shorter attention spans. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this would then result in a much higher prevalence of compulsive behaviors. These people then seek treatment, and voila, we have a significant portion of the population on psychotropic medications.
You now have a portion of the population who are big time gun enthusiasts/borderline fetishists, have 2-second attention spans, are OCD, and on some kind of behavior altering medications.
Whether it's romanticizing guns in Soldier of Fortune magazines, adding a new colorful handle for the "sport shooting" crowd, Doctors prescribing meds, pharma corporations pushing those meds, or consumerism in general, it's all driven by the desire to improve the bottom line. Capitalism.
So is capitalism partly to blame?
I find it funny how so many of them take testosterone blockers and female hormones before going into battle. Seems counterproductive to me. Right now, they're much more organized and prone to violence than the right, but if the right ever says "fuck it" and goes all out, they're fucked.May as well cut off your testicles and join antifa
We have a lot of mentally ill people. They want to commit suicide. They have access to guns. Now, they know they can do that, and take people with them, and they will be reviled and remembered forever. Maybe that pull is too great for some, maybe they are so angry that they want to cause pain and suffering.
But it is a small number of people that would do this. Many think about it, but few do it. We have far more people that will shoot someone over gang or drug issues just to break up the boredom of their lives and to gain status.
Criminals are causing this....firearms are inanimate....please tell me you are intelligent enough not to blame an inanimate object.
No I wouldn't.Nor would I give them a chainsaw,a knife or keys to an automobile etc.At the end of the day,none of the items including firearms are sentient.I'm certainly not going to say that firearms are the sole blame, and I'm not even a "take your guns" type of guy - I have no problem with people owning them responsibly.
However, I don't buy the whole "don't blame an inanimate object argument".
Let's put it this way, would you let your 2 year old child handle a loaded firearm? Would you give one to a room full of kindergartners to play with at lunchtime? I mean, if the gun is just an inanimate object, what's the problem?
I gave you a like. Not because I like you. But because I agree with you. You're still a jackbooted thug to me <3
I made this post in the Florida thread, and thought maybe it deserved it's own.
I'm pretty sure that it is a widely accepted fact that while household firearm ownership has been dropping, gun sales have been up in the last 30+ years because fewer people are stockpiling more and more weapons than they used to. I have seen arguments that this was the result of a marketing campaign by the gun industry (in response to falling household ownership (profits) in the 70's) to target their hardcore buyers by offering more options, interchangeable parts, colors, specialty guns, etc., creating a fetish of sorts.
I don't think anyone would disagree that we live in a hyper-consumeristic society, and, along with social media and the Internet, ultimately leads us to shorter and shorter attention spans. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this would then result in a much higher prevalence of compulsive behaviors. These people then seek treatment, and voila, we have a significant portion of the population on psychotropic medications.
You now have a portion of the population who are big time gun enthusiasts/borderline fetishists, have 2-second attention spans, are OCD, and on some kind of behavior altering medications.
Whether it's romanticizing guns in Soldier of Fortune magazines, adding a new colorful handle for the "sport shooting" crowd, Doctors prescribing meds, pharma corporations pushing those meds, or consumerism in general, it's all driven by the desire to improve the bottom line. Capitalism.
So is capitalism partly to blame?
Do you think nations like Australia and Britian have become better due to less guns? For example, have they seen a lessening in gun crimes?
You mean was it worth what they gave up, no.
I think some people just have dangerous brains. Although the news using shooting massacres to push a gun control agenda is kind of romanticizing the violence and gets those dangerous people thinking about that stuff sometimes. Just my speculation on the matter.I made this post in the Florida thread, and thought maybe it deserved it's own.
I'm pretty sure that it is a widely accepted fact that while household firearm ownership has been dropping, gun sales have been up in the last 30+ years because fewer people are stockpiling more and more weapons than they used to. I have seen arguments that this was the result of a marketing campaign by the gun industry (in response to falling household ownership (profits) in the 70's) to target their hardcore buyers by offering more options, interchangeable parts, colors, specialty guns, etc., creating a fetish of sorts.
I don't think anyone would disagree that we live in a hyper-consumeristic society, and, along with social media and the Internet, ultimately leads us to shorter and shorter attention spans. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this would then result in a much higher prevalence of compulsive behaviors. These people then seek treatment, and voila, we have a significant portion of the population on psychotropic medications.
You now have a portion of the population who are big time gun enthusiasts/borderline fetishists, have 2-second attention spans, are OCD, and on some kind of behavior altering medications.
Whether it's romanticizing guns in Soldier of Fortune magazines, adding a new colorful handle for the "sport shooting" crowd, Doctors prescribing meds, pharma corporations pushing those meds, or consumerism in general, it's all driven by the desire to improve the bottom line. Capitalism.
So is capitalism partly to blame?