UFC reaches deal with Disney/ESPN
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Does that mean that the usual secret contracts and back room bonuses will have to see the light of day?
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yup
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WWE has been public for a long time, and their filings don't give any insight into how the wrestlers are compensated.
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They are already reported to IRS (if that is what you mean)
But if you mean will every pay-out be public? No
All they need to do is report the end of year total as they do now
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WWE pays 5-8% of revenue per year to wrestlers.
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They aren't even going to be on ESPN. They're going to be on ESPN.... X!
But it sounds like they will still be negotiating a deal with Fox as their primary television broadcaster.
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I'm pretty sure the first three pages of responses failed to read any of the articles as well.
What I wonder is how the UFC plan s to schedule all of this content. If they still maintain 4-5 yearly Fox cards and 12(?) FS1 cards, plus their own fightpass events, plus 15 ESPN X cards, their product is going to be even more watered down than it is now and they'll be employing even more fighters at all times (which in present day they seem unwilling to do with a consistency of quality).
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I think their own fightpass events will most certainly go to espn+
They will get the shanghai, Berlin etc
Streaming service won't be so hung up on broadcast times, people will watch when they wakeup etc
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Who knows with the UFC, as anything they say is bullshit until official actions are taken. The article in mmajunkie however, mentions that the UFC intends to continue running fightpass even with the ESPN deal in place, and to continue hosting cards there.
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I just assumed FOX was done with them. It's too bad we don't have all the details about where UFC content will be appearing. As a consumer, I wish I could get it all in one place.
Oh wait, I can: Pirate Internet streams.
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I found this post by mmalogic particularly worrisome. It seems UFC execs have learned nothing at all about the negative effects of over-saturation. They'll gladly split the tv deal(in addition to the ESPN deal) and give 15-20 events per broadcaster, if each is willing to pay 150-200 million. How does 50 TV/streamed events a year sound to you? It's as if WME didn't care about the long term sustainability of the sport and wanted to go all-in on tv cash for short term profit. What happens in 5 years when TV ratings are dismal, do you think the UFC will be getting another $450 million a year contract? I expect WME will have unloaded the whole shebang long before then.
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.......I also believe wme/ufc would easily pick turner over fox or nbc if the bid is comparable.
that being said, there could be another split
If there’s another buyer with around 200m/yr for ufc content then you gotta sell them something right... you can’t just say no to that kind of money.
Ppv is going to take a back seat now... once the dust settles we’ll see if there will be 6 ppv’s a year, 4 or 3.
I know Lorenzo wanted 54 live events a year for “world fucking domination”
if both fox and nbc (or turner) are willing to budget around 200m/yr then fuck Ppv.
How many ppv events can you monetize better than the amount of tv money being thrown around? Not many.
maybe 3 or 4 a year. Max 6.
With The price that espn has set for a 15 event package you’re actually losing money by staging most of these ppv’s instead of monetizing them through licensing fees.
05/09/2018
.......I also believe wme/ufc would easily pick turner over fox or nbc if the bid is comparable.
that being said, there could be another split
If there’s another buyer with around 200m/yr for ufc content then you gotta sell them something right... you can’t just say no to that kind of money.
Ppv is going to take a back seat now... once the dust settles we’ll see if there will be 6 ppv’s a year, 4 or 3.
I know Lorenzo wanted 54 live events a year for “world fucking domination”
if both fox and nbc (or turner) are willing to budget around 200m/yr then fuck Ppv.
How many ppv events can you monetize better than the amount of tv money being thrown around? Not many.
maybe 3 or 4 a year. Max 6.
With The price that espn has set for a 15 event package you’re actually losing money by staging most of these ppv’s instead of monetizing them through licensing fees.
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I found this post by mmalogic particularly worrisome. It seems UFC execs have learned nothing at all about the negative effects of over-saturation. They'll gladly split the tv deal(in addition to the ESPN deal) and give 15-20 events per broadcaster, if each is willing to pay 150-200 million. How does 50 TV/streamed events a year sound to you? It's as if WME didn't care about the long term sustainability of the sport and wanted to go all-in on tv cash for short term profit. What happens in 5 years when TV ratings are dismal, do you think the UFC will be getting another $450 million a year contract? I expect WME will have unloaded the whole shebang long before then.
05/09/2018
.......I also believe wme/ufc would easily pick turner over fox or nbc if the bid is comparable.
that being said, there could be another split
If there’s another buyer with around 200m/yr for ufc content then you gotta sell them something right... you can’t just say no to that kind of money.
Ppv is going to take a back seat now... once the dust settles we’ll see if there will be 6 ppv’s a year, 4 or 3.
I know Lorenzo wanted 54 live events a year for “world fucking domination”
if both fox and nbc (or turner) are willing to budget around 200m/yr then fuck Ppv.
How many ppv events can you monetize better than the amount of tv money being thrown around? Not many.
maybe 3 or 4 a year. Max 6.
With The price that espn has set for a 15 event package you’re actually losing money by staging most of these ppv’s instead of monetizing them through licensing fees.
That sounds like it will be exhausting but unfortunately that sounds just like what these fucking corps do.
i suppose i wouldnt be able to say no either if i had more than one bidder. create some more titles/divisions, sign some more scrubs, add more seasons of the contender series and cash my check. damn scoundrels.
