You didn't bring up any examples of their 'prospects' and I asked you to comment on PQ's last win and the Irish teams performance at the IMMAF's.
Never said they had a team of high level grappler's. It seems like you have some sort of narrative that you want to believe and that's cool, but if someone brings up how you might be incorrect on a couple of things or you don't comment on some of their fighters when they win, it sort of comes across as you having some sort of agenda against a gym/team which is a little strange.
Listen, I can only give you my opinion. If you want to hate Kavanagh, his team, his family or pet dog, that's your prerogative - but again - you seem to have your own narrative which I'll quote you on and answer below in the next post.
And here it is: how is he smug? A plastic black belt? And when or where has he said he's an innovator in European BJJ - whatever that means.
It's MMA, ffs. Everyone eventually loses. I could post threads when there's BAMMA events on and a fighter from SBG wins by submission. You cite Dawdou's loss as Kavanagh's/SBG's incompetence. He came over from my understanding because Kavanagh is pal's with his coach in Canada, the fight was in Liverpool so he trained at SBG for it and he has a back ground in Muay Thai, got clipped in the first 20 seconds and submitted. He may have got submitted later on in the fight, but the way you paint the picture of that fight is that he 'just got submitted'
What are you on about? I think you were listening to Gooden and Hardy when they held the event in Dublin and they were getting excited when some of the Irish fighters won. Pendred and Daly have retired long ago, you silly billy.
Unless someone has changed their name like Prince did, I'm not sure who PQ is, do you care to inform me? Also I'm not an avid fan of BJJ in terms of watching European BJJ tournaments which are an absolute bitch to find and are not exactly televised. I also know from all the fights I've watched over the years that you can do okay in a BJJ tournament but have no idea how to grapple with punches, elbows and knees. You, much like I must have seen tonnes of BJJ belt holders get beaten up and dominated on the floor because they are not ready for that arena.
I have no agenda against the team, I simply call it as I see it. Edmond wasn't out there in Glendale, AZ saying that he was a Judo black belt, he was claiming to be a boxing coach and a kickboxing world champion. This is the specific reason why he got laughed out of town, because his fighters (especially Rousey) looked like they lacked any basic understanding of how to strike when they were under his tutelage. John Kavanagh on the other hand is supposed to be the BJJ guy right? Recently upgraded to a 3rd stripe Black Belt in the art. He's a former MMA fighter with a pro-record so he has some idea of how MMA grappling differs from straight up traditional BJJ. All that said, outside of Gunnar Nelson he hasn't got one MMA fighter on his roster who looks really, really good on the ground.
He is smug, he whole aura, his dishonest estimations of fights, his ridiculously bias opinions when analysing his fighters' losses. The way that he likes to have himself front and centre when Conor wins, the book tour, the MMA hour appearances, his anti-religious tweets (this is coming from an Agnostic), his smugness on Twitter in general, it's just everything about his persona - he should be a humble man who should count his blessings that Conor has made him into a flourishing businessman. Without Conor he has no book deal, without Conor he's just another failed MMA fighter. The cheek of him to even have a book about himself, the story starts with Conor and ends with Conor, nobody, not even the most loyal fan of SBG really cares about him or his gym if you subtract Conor. It's like Conor's cockiness is something that he has to keep up, he needs to wear the cockiness too because that's part of his gym's persona, all his fighters like to be smack talkers and arrogant cunts too - there is no coincidence here.
You used the Dawodu fight as an example, okay maybe John's not been his coach long enough yet then, maybe John's not to blame for the incompetencies in his ground game. How about Phillips then? Because he's an SBG fighter good and proper and he was submitted and controlled like he had no idea what he was doing at all. You also mention that people don't focus on when an SBG fighter submits someone, but only the opposite. Well let me tell you this, I'm from London, I watch BAMMA all the time and for the most part these are novices, these guys do not belong on the big show, they don't belong in the UFC. Submitting some guy who is 2-4 is not impressive to me, that doesn't somehow make you good on the ground. Getting submitted in your UFC debut by a man with a similar record to you in a coin toss fight, whilst you appear to have no idea about the basics of BJJ is worrying though, especially if you come from a camp where BJJ is it's roots.
I know Daly and Pendred are retired, but yes Gooden/Hardy and many others (because everyone was buying into the big Irish MMA boom at the time) were getting all supportive of those poor fighters because they were handed two other bums and they won a bum fight. Lol, he's not SBG but Norman Parke was spoken about like he was an MMA prospect, look at him now, dossing around in Polish fight leagues.
Just saying.