Theft is so bad in San Francisco that Groceries are now Locked Up

[irish_thug]

"cUnSpiRacy tHeOrY"

Black mirror did an episode on this. Fucked up

 

[oldshadow]

Why should they nothing is going to be done about it, legally anyway.

Then when the stores close and move away the same people that don't want anything done are going to claim its racist.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

soon...digital IDs, QR codes....



create a problem, sell a solution

 

[Super_Nintendo]

 

[mozfonky]

It's a cost vs reward. Asking employees for each item you want to steal makes the process much slower. This inefficiency would deter thievery as it costs much more time.

That being said, having a society that is united, properly responds to criminal activity, and tries to improve their local areas is a better approach. However, chains are obviously a quicker and cheaper solution.

not only that, the employees get tired of being bothered, understandably. I hate asking for razors or petty shit. Maybe the future is more amazon or gopuff (local grocery delivery). The thieves don't give a fuck about any of the problems they create for the rest of us.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Taco Bell locations in Oakland are forced to CLOSE dining rooms indefinitely - and switch to drive-thru service and cashless payments only - amid series of robberies and unrelenting crime surge​

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13164147/Taco-Bell-Oakland-forced-close-dining-room-robberiess-indefinitely-switch-drive-service-cash-payments-amid-series-robberies-unrelenting-crime-surge.html

 

[SummerStriker]

How does it work when you shop at a store where everything is locked up? Does every customer get a personal shopper?

Something I wanted at Walmart was locked the other day, so I didn't buy it. I went to Target instead. I feel for people who are married to one shitty Walgreens

 

[Levi_]

Well this video of one store settles it- SF has the worst crime of any city, and wouldn't you know it is a woke socialist place, which always has more crime.

Just kidding. SF's crime rate is better than some cities in red states, sorry. Yes, Fox news has been lying to you. (surprise!) You might stop following the shepherd and actually find some reliable crime stats.

 

[Levi_]

Crime in Large Cities (Populations over 500,000)​

Top 3 large cities with highest violent crime rates (per 100,000 residents)

Murder
Baltimore, Maryland	50
Detroit, Michigan	49
Memphis, Tennessee	43

Rape
Detroit, Michigan	114
Columbus, Ohio	111
Denver, Colorado	107

Aggravated Assault
Memphis, Tennessee	1942
Detroit, Michigan	1642
Kansas City, Missouri	1155

Robbery
Baltimore, Maryland	556
Memphis, Tennessee	372
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania	370

Large cities with highest property crime rates (per 100,000 residents)

Burglary
Seattle, Washington	1201
Memphis, Tennessee	964
Albuquerque, New Mexico	813

Larceny-Theft
San Francisco, California	4646
Memphis, Tennessee	4454
Portland, Oregon	3841

Motor Vehicle Theft
Denver, Colorado	2155
Memphis, Tennessee	1748
Portland, Oregon	1723

 

[Levi_]

The 2024 index for North America is here. Pretty good mix of red and blue state cities, but a red city state is on top. Texas cities is higher than SF. Why is no one putting anecdotes from Memphis in the thread?

1	Memphis, TN, United States	76.7	23.3
2	Baltimore, MD, United States	74.5	25.5
3	Detroit, MI, United States	74.2	25.8
4	Albuquerque, NM, United States	71.7	28.3
5	Saint Louis, MO, United States	69.7	30.3
6	Oakland, CA, United States	68.9	31.1
7	Milwaukee, WI, United States	68.1	31.9
8	New Orleans, LA, United States	67.2	32.8
9	Chicago, IL, United States	66.3	33.7
10	Philadelphia, PA, United States	65.8	34.2
11	Atlanta, GA, United States	64.0	36.0
12	Houston, TX, United States	63.3	36.7
13	San Francisco, CA, United States	61.9	38.1
14	Kelowna, Canada	61.6	38.4
15	Washington, DC, United States	61.1	38.9
16	Sudbury, Canada	60.5	39.5
17	Sault Ste. Marie, Canada	60.3	39.7
18	Winnipeg, Canada	60.1	39.9
19	Indianapolis, IN, United States	59.8	40.2
20	Portland, OR, United States	56.9	43.1
21	Las Vegas, NV, United States	56.1	43.9
22	Minneapolis, MN, United States	55.8	44.2
23	Hamilton, Canada	54.9	45.1
24	Seattle, WA, United States	54.6	45.4
25	Tucson, AZ, United States	54.3	45.7
26	Phoenix, AZ, United States	53.4	46.6
27	Los Angeles, CA, United States	53.0	47.0
28	Nanaimo, BC, Canada	52.7	47.3
29	Miami, FL, United States	52.6	47.4
30	Dallas, TX, United States	51.6	48.4
31	Sacramento, CA, United States	50.4	49.6
32	Saskatoon, Canada	50.3	49.7
33	New York, NY, United States	50.0	50.0
34	Orlando, FL, United States	49.7	50.3
35	Columbus, OH, United States	49.6	50.4
36	San Antonio, TX, United States	48.2	51.8
37	Honolulu, HI, United States	47.3	52.7
38	Denver, CO, United States	46.8	53.2
39	Edmonton, Canada	46.4	53.6
40	Tampa, FL, United States	45.9	54.1
41	Windsor, Canada	45.2	54.8
42	Mississauga, Canada	43.5	56.5
43	Toronto, Canada	43.1	56.9
44	Kitchener, Canada	42.3	57.7
45	Vancouver, Canada	42.0	58.0
46	Boston, MA, United States	41.3	58.7
47	Victoria, Canada	41.2	58.8
48	Halifax, Canada	40.9	59.1
49	San Diego, CA, United States	40.9	59.1
50	Austin, TX, United States	40.7	59.3
51	Calgary, Canada	38.2	61.8
52	Boise, ID, United States	35.3	64.7
53	Guelph, Canada	34.4	65.6
54	Salt Lake City, UT, United States	33.7	66.3
55	Montreal, Canada	32.0	68.0
56	Ottawa, Canada	31.5	68.5
57	Oakville, Canada	26.1	73.9
58	Quebec City, Canada

 

[Scheme]

The 2024 index for North America is here. Pretty good mix of red and blue state cities, but a red city state is on top. Texas cities is higher than SF. Why is no one putting anecdotes from Memphis in the thread?

1	Memphis, TN, United States	76.7	23.3
2	Baltimore, MD, United States	74.5	25.5
3	Detroit, MI, United States	74.2	25.8
4	Albuquerque, NM, United States	71.7	28.3
5	Saint Louis, MO, United States	69.7	30.3
6	Oakland, CA, United States	68.9	31.1
7	Milwaukee, WI, United States	68.1	31.9
8	New Orleans, LA, United States	67.2	32.8
9	Chicago, IL, United States	66.3	33.7
10	Philadelphia, PA, United States	65.8	34.2
11	Atlanta, GA, United States	64.0	36.0
12	Houston, TX, United States	63.3	36.7
13	San Francisco, CA, United States	61.9	38.1
14	Kelowna, Canada	61.6	38.4
15	Washington, DC, United States	61.1	38.9
16	Sudbury, Canada	60.5	39.5
17	Sault Ste. Marie, Canada	60.3	39.7
18	Winnipeg, Canada	60.1	39.9
19	Indianapolis, IN, United States	59.8	40.2
20	Portland, OR, United States	56.9	43.1
21	Las Vegas, NV, United States	56.1	43.9
22	Minneapolis, MN, United States	55.8	44.2
23	Hamilton, Canada	54.9	45.1
24	Seattle, WA, United States	54.6	45.4
25	Tucson, AZ, United States	54.3	45.7
26	Phoenix, AZ, United States	53.4	46.6
27	Los Angeles, CA, United States	53.0	47.0
28	Nanaimo, BC, Canada	52.7	47.3
29	Miami, FL, United States	52.6	47.4
30	Dallas, TX, United States	51.6	48.4
31	Sacramento, CA, United States	50.4	49.6
32	Saskatoon, Canada	50.3	49.7
33	New York, NY, United States	50.0	50.0
34	Orlando, FL, United States	49.7	50.3
35	Columbus, OH, United States	49.6	50.4
36	San Antonio, TX, United States	48.2	51.8
37	Honolulu, HI, United States	47.3	52.7
38	Denver, CO, United States	46.8	53.2
39	Edmonton, Canada	46.4	53.6
40	Tampa, FL, United States	45.9	54.1
41	Windsor, Canada	45.2	54.8
42	Mississauga, Canada	43.5	56.5
43	Toronto, Canada	43.1	56.9
44	Kitchener, Canada	42.3	57.7
45	Vancouver, Canada	42.0	58.0
46	Boston, MA, United States	41.3	58.7
47	Victoria, Canada	41.2	58.8
48	Halifax, Canada	40.9	59.1
49	San Diego, CA, United States	40.9	59.1
50	Austin, TX, United States	40.7	59.3
51	Calgary, Canada	38.2	61.8
52	Boise, ID, United States	35.3	64.7
53	Guelph, Canada	34.4	65.6
54	Salt Lake City, UT, United States	33.7	66.3
55	Montreal, Canada	32.0	68.0
56	Ottawa, Canada	31.5	68.5
57	Oakville, Canada	26.1	73.9
58	Quebec City, Canada

Because Memphis has always sucked. San Francisco was a safe city and still is one of the richest cities in the world. Government policies have ruined the city.

Also the majority of those cities have been run by blue state mayors for decades now. And the mayor has much more control over crime than a governor.

 

[herpd807]

Progressed society. Utopia even!

 

[herpd807]

The 2024 index for North America is here. Pretty good mix of red and blue state cities, but a red city state is on top. Texas cities is higher than SF. Why is no one putting anecdotes from Memphis in the thread?

1	Memphis, TN, United States	76.7	23.3
2	Baltimore, MD, United States	74.5	25.5
3	Detroit, MI, United States	74.2	25.8
4	Albuquerque, NM, United States	71.7	28.3
5	Saint Louis, MO, United States	69.7	30.3
6	Oakland, CA, United States	68.9	31.1
7	Milwaukee, WI, United States	68.1	31.9
8	New Orleans, LA, United States	67.2	32.8
9	Chicago, IL, United States	66.3	33.7
10	Philadelphia, PA, United States	65.8	34.2
11	Atlanta, GA, United States	64.0	36.0
12	Houston, TX, United States	63.3	36.7
13	San Francisco, CA, United States	61.9	38.1
14	Kelowna, Canada	61.6	38.4
15	Washington, DC, United States	61.1	38.9
16	Sudbury, Canada	60.5	39.5
17	Sault Ste. Marie, Canada	60.3	39.7
18	Winnipeg, Canada	60.1	39.9
19	Indianapolis, IN, United States	59.8	40.2
20	Portland, OR, United States	56.9	43.1
21	Las Vegas, NV, United States	56.1	43.9
22	Minneapolis, MN, United States	55.8	44.2
23	Hamilton, Canada	54.9	45.1
24	Seattle, WA, United States	54.6	45.4
25	Tucson, AZ, United States	54.3	45.7
26	Phoenix, AZ, United States	53.4	46.6
27	Los Angeles, CA, United States	53.0	47.0
28	Nanaimo, BC, Canada	52.7	47.3
29	Miami, FL, United States	52.6	47.4
30	Dallas, TX, United States	51.6	48.4
31	Sacramento, CA, United States	50.4	49.6
32	Saskatoon, Canada	50.3	49.7
33	New York, NY, United States	50.0	50.0
34	Orlando, FL, United States	49.7	50.3
35	Columbus, OH, United States	49.6	50.4
36	San Antonio, TX, United States	48.2	51.8
37	Honolulu, HI, United States	47.3	52.7
38	Denver, CO, United States	46.8	53.2
39	Edmonton, Canada	46.4	53.6
40	Tampa, FL, United States	45.9	54.1
41	Windsor, Canada	45.2	54.8
42	Mississauga, Canada	43.5	56.5
43	Toronto, Canada	43.1	56.9
44	Kitchener, Canada	42.3	57.7
45	Vancouver, Canada	42.0	58.0
46	Boston, MA, United States	41.3	58.7
47	Victoria, Canada	41.2	58.8
48	Halifax, Canada	40.9	59.1
49	San Diego, CA, United States	40.9	59.1
50	Austin, TX, United States	40.7	59.3
51	Calgary, Canada	38.2	61.8
52	Boise, ID, United States	35.3	64.7
53	Guelph, Canada	34.4	65.6
54	Salt Lake City, UT, United States	33.7	66.3
55	Montreal, Canada	32.0	68.0
56	Ottawa, Canada	31.5	68.5
57	Oakville, Canada	26.1	73.9
58	Quebec City, Canada

Can you acknowledge that California didn't use to be like this and has devolved into a shit hole directly as a result of democratic policies? Like relaxed drug laws, border security, prop 42 and catch and release?

Or is this all just a necessary evil in the name of progress towards something eventually better? I don't understand the long term vision or goal here with these policies which have CLEARLY failed. All of them.

 

[HomeCheese]

Can you acknowledge that California didn't use to be like this and has devolved into a shit hole directly as a result of democratic policies? Like relaxed drug laws, border security, prop 42 and catch and release?

Or is this all just a necessary evil in the name of progress towards something eventually better? I don't understand the long term vision or goal here with these policies which have CLEARLY failed. All of them.

Did you get your car broken into there or something? SF is a beautiful city.

 

[RoastBeast]

The 2024 index for North America is here. Pretty good mix of red and blue state cities, but a red city state is on top. Texas cities is higher than SF. Why is no one putting anecdotes from Memphis in the thread?

1	Memphis, TN, United States	76.7	23.3
2	Baltimore, MD, United States	74.5	25.5
3	Detroit, MI, United States	74.2	25.8
4	Albuquerque, NM, United States	71.7	28.3
5	Saint Louis, MO, United States	69.7	30.3
6	Oakland, CA, United States	68.9	31.1
7	Milwaukee, WI, United States	68.1	31.9
8	New Orleans, LA, United States	67.2	32.8
9	Chicago, IL, United States	66.3	33.7
10	Philadelphia, PA, United States	65.8	34.2
11	Atlanta, GA, United States	64.0	36.0
12	Houston, TX, United States	63.3	36.7
13	San Francisco, CA, United States	61.9	38.1
14	Kelowna, Canada	61.6	38.4
15	Washington, DC, United States	61.1	38.9
16	Sudbury, Canada	60.5	39.5
17	Sault Ste. Marie, Canada	60.3	39.7
18	Winnipeg, Canada	60.1	39.9
19	Indianapolis, IN, United States	59.8	40.2
20	Portland, OR, United States	56.9	43.1
21	Las Vegas, NV, United States	56.1	43.9
22	Minneapolis, MN, United States	55.8	44.2
23	Hamilton, Canada	54.9	45.1
24	Seattle, WA, United States	54.6	45.4
25	Tucson, AZ, United States	54.3	45.7
26	Phoenix, AZ, United States	53.4	46.6
27	Los Angeles, CA, United States	53.0	47.0
28	Nanaimo, BC, Canada	52.7	47.3
29	Miami, FL, United States	52.6	47.4
30	Dallas, TX, United States	51.6	48.4
31	Sacramento, CA, United States	50.4	49.6
32	Saskatoon, Canada	50.3	49.7
33	New York, NY, United States	50.0	50.0
34	Orlando, FL, United States	49.7	50.3
35	Columbus, OH, United States	49.6	50.4
36	San Antonio, TX, United States	48.2	51.8
37	Honolulu, HI, United States	47.3	52.7
38	Denver, CO, United States	46.8	53.2
39	Edmonton, Canada	46.4	53.6
40	Tampa, FL, United States	45.9	54.1
41	Windsor, Canada	45.2	54.8
42	Mississauga, Canada	43.5	56.5
43	Toronto, Canada	43.1	56.9
44	Kitchener, Canada	42.3	57.7
45	Vancouver, Canada	42.0	58.0
46	Boston, MA, United States	41.3	58.7
47	Victoria, Canada	41.2	58.8
48	Halifax, Canada	40.9	59.1
49	San Diego, CA, United States	40.9	59.1
50	Austin, TX, United States	40.7	59.3
51	Calgary, Canada	38.2	61.8
52	Boise, ID, United States	35.3	64.7
53	Guelph, Canada	34.4	65.6
54	Salt Lake City, UT, United States	33.7	66.3
55	Montreal, Canada	32.0	68.0
56	Ottawa, Canada	31.5	68.5
57	Oakville, Canada	26.1	73.9
58	Quebec City, Canada

It's pretty funny that you think you have a gotcha going on here. You do realize what the demographics of Memphis and essentially the rest of the top 12 cities are, right?

Also, what do the numbers on the right mean? Could be my browser but I'm not seeing a column header.

 

[method115]

Yes I would wait. I can't stand buying clothes online. If it doesn't fit right now I have to return it. End up spending two weeks to get some more clothes that fit right.

 

[herpd807]

Did you get your car broken into there or something? SF is a beautiful city.

I lived and worked there back in 2004. It WAS a beautiful city. Now, due directly to failed policies it's turned into a shit hole. Literally.

Substack: Updated! The San Francisco Poop Map By OpenTheBooks In Real Time

In 2022 and 2023, case reports of human waste in the public way spiked to all-time highs. More than 270,000 cases reported since 2011.

www.openthebooks.com

To which, when challenged on this fact, the governor simply laughed it off.

 

[AfroBanana]

Well this video of one store settles it- SF has the worst crime of any city, and wouldn't you know it is a woke socialist place, which always has more crime.

Just kidding. SF's crime rate is better than some cities in red states, sorry. Yes, Fox news has been lying to you. (surprise!) You might stop following the shepherd and actually find some reliable crime stats.

Isn’t this thread about retail theft? And doesn’t your own charts put San Francisco @ #1 in larceny-theft validating the thread?

This is about the exodus of business there because of it and the measures taken to prevent (locking everything up inconveniencing shoppers) as a result of decriminalizing theft.

It’s not one video that settles the issue. So many businesses have closed or been impacted by it. This is one video of a huge problem that’s been happening and continues to happen there.

You’re the one moving the goalpost when it’s not a a thread about gun violence or rape. Your own stats back the issue in San Fran.

Not the best comprehension and basic thing on display here.

 

[HomeCheese]

I lived and worked there back in 2004. It WAS a beautiful city. Now, due directly to failed policies it's turned into a shit hole. Literally.

Substack: Updated! The San Francisco Poop Map By OpenTheBooks In Real Time

In 2022 and 2023, case reports of human waste in the public way spiked to all-time highs. More than 270,000 cases reported since 2011.

www.openthebooks.com

To which, when challenged on this fact, the governor simply laughed it off.

What are the top five policies that you disagree with and what would you do differently?

 

[Levi_]

Isn’t this thread about retail theft? And doesn’t your own charts put San Francisco @ #1 in larceny-theft validating the thread?

This is about the exodus of business there because of it and the measures taken to prevent (locking everything up inconveniencing shoppers) as a result of decriminalizing theft.

It’s not one video that settles the issue. So many businesses have closed or been impacted by it. This is one video of a huge problem that’s been happening and continues to happen there.

You’re the one moving the goalpost when it’s not a a thread about gun violence or rape. Your own stats back the issue in San Fran.

Not the best comprehension and basic thing on display here.

So are you saying people in this thread are not pushing a narrative about CA/blue state cities being worse than other places? Bullshit proven to be bullshit; that narrative is being pushed all over the place. Are you actually reading the thread and things people post?

What they are talking with the larceny about is in large part car theft; there is a big problem with car theft. I'd rather have that than violence any day. Are you going to also make a thread about violence in Memphis, or high violence in Southern states? You guys absolutely crack me up. Move the goalpost when you are proven wrong.

I know it makes you feel good to say people you disagree with make terrible cities, but that is unfortunately not true. Blue counties make up 70% if America's GDP (look it up).